Are there any event chains involving the defeat of the USA in the Caroline Affair War - or any other defeat of the USA by the UK?
There used to be a New England revolter (NEN). As the UK, I am not seeing that option even though I just won ownership of part of New England.
When the Canadian Act of Union occurred, all the former US territory now owned by the UK remained British, even though that means there are now three separate enclaves and you have to travel through Canada to move between the enclaves.
Here are some scenarios that I think should happen.
1) Those British territories should be joined to Canada. It doesn't make sense for the UK to own territory that it can't reach without going through another country (even if that other country is a friendly vassal). And yes, in real life they could have accessed those territories by sailing through the St. Lawrence River, it still doesn't seem realistic that they would free Canada without any thought as to the territory on the formerly American bank.
2) The British territory should remain part of Britain, but not indefinitely. The UK would probably want to pacify the natives for a while before granting them autonomy or joining them to the loyal Canadians. But they should be eventually joined to Canada or granted dominion status just like Canada. Since throughout the game period they're releasing all their lands in which white people form a majority and are large enough to be self-sufficient, they would obviously release this former US territory as well.
3) The automatic westward expansion into lands owned by the Sioux & Nez Pierce, especially, shouldn't happen. Those lands should come under the protection of the British and/or the Canadians.
4) Such a decisive defeat would change the United States. I don't know how exactly, but the trajectory we are all familiar with (North/South politics, the Mexican War, the Civil War, Western Expansion, etc.) would have been unlikely to occur in the same way. Perhaps Congress would have become dominated by southern landowners. Maybe the country would become afraid to expand without British permission. Maybe eventual re-absorption into British North America would have been seen as inevitable, instead of Manifest Destiny being seen as inevitable. It might have descended into civil war - a completely different civil war than The Civil War. Obviously at the very least, the government would have fallen and some Americans would have lost their savings.
But if there are no events dealing with any of that, I don't know what to do with this territory. Just manually giving it to Canada isn't the same. I could sell it to them but they won't be able to afford what it's worth. I could sell it back to the United States but I don't think that would be likely IRL. I didn't fight them for 3 years just to give it back to them. But if I'm releasing Canada, what do I want with this land?
There used to be a New England revolter (NEN). As the UK, I am not seeing that option even though I just won ownership of part of New England.
When the Canadian Act of Union occurred, all the former US territory now owned by the UK remained British, even though that means there are now three separate enclaves and you have to travel through Canada to move between the enclaves.
Here are some scenarios that I think should happen.
1) Those British territories should be joined to Canada. It doesn't make sense for the UK to own territory that it can't reach without going through another country (even if that other country is a friendly vassal). And yes, in real life they could have accessed those territories by sailing through the St. Lawrence River, it still doesn't seem realistic that they would free Canada without any thought as to the territory on the formerly American bank.
2) The British territory should remain part of Britain, but not indefinitely. The UK would probably want to pacify the natives for a while before granting them autonomy or joining them to the loyal Canadians. But they should be eventually joined to Canada or granted dominion status just like Canada. Since throughout the game period they're releasing all their lands in which white people form a majority and are large enough to be self-sufficient, they would obviously release this former US territory as well.
3) The automatic westward expansion into lands owned by the Sioux & Nez Pierce, especially, shouldn't happen. Those lands should come under the protection of the British and/or the Canadians.
4) Such a decisive defeat would change the United States. I don't know how exactly, but the trajectory we are all familiar with (North/South politics, the Mexican War, the Civil War, Western Expansion, etc.) would have been unlikely to occur in the same way. Perhaps Congress would have become dominated by southern landowners. Maybe the country would become afraid to expand without British permission. Maybe eventual re-absorption into British North America would have been seen as inevitable, instead of Manifest Destiny being seen as inevitable. It might have descended into civil war - a completely different civil war than The Civil War. Obviously at the very least, the government would have fallen and some Americans would have lost their savings.
But if there are no events dealing with any of that, I don't know what to do with this territory. Just manually giving it to Canada isn't the same. I could sell it to them but they won't be able to afford what it's worth. I could sell it back to the United States but I don't think that would be likely IRL. I didn't fight them for 3 years just to give it back to them. But if I'm releasing Canada, what do I want with this land?
