...and judging from the DDs on CK2, it seems to be a very different game than other PI ones. Anyone care to give me a brief outline of what the game involves?
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You are the Head of a Dynasty and work for that Dynasty, controlling titles and lands, but also your family, in fact is more a mix between RPG and Strategy Game
Depends on how you wanna play or your character leaves you to play, as example in Spanish Forum we have an AAR in which player used Assasinate Feature once and again to be the most important guy in Europe and install his sons in every throne, but also claimed titles and waged war on others, like pagans and muslims, if he felt he needed
There are wars. They aren't as elaborately simulated as they are in HoI, but land warfare is as complex in CK as it is in EU3. Sea warfare is non-existant, apparently because the development cycle was unusually short.
A major difference is that there's no economy. There're no CoTs, no factories, and the only economic resource is gold. No sliders either. Just laws you can change every few decades, and an abstract level of "power" between the four eststes in each province.
The second big difference is that the game makes actual blobbing impossible. You can only run so much land by yourself, and you have to give the rest to your vassals. You can kinda blob, because there's no way for your Croatian vassals to declare one of themselves King of Croatia and rebel against English domination; but that doesn't mean they'll actually do what you say.
The third difference is really the core of the game. Inter-personal relationships are everything in this game. Your vassals have a personal relationship with you, which is much more important then the actual Relations between your countries. If you're at +200, but your King's personality clashes with an important vassal, you're gonna have a Civil War. Unless you have a good Chancellor, a daughter to marry him, and/or near-infinite amounts of gold for gifts.
It's open to debate whether this means CK is an RPG bolted onto a strategy game or vice versa.
Nick
To answer the question you're really asking: its awesome, its cheap, buy it!
But seriously, it is very different than the EU games because you have actually characters, not just a name with a (short) list of stats. These are real characters with a history, a family, and a personality. And its not just your guy who's a real character, you have vassals, courtiers, kids (including bastards), your wife, your lovers, and a liege to worry about. They're all fully functional characters who can get titles (through a number of ways), get an education, make friends and enemies, rebel against their leige, fight in battles, and pick up all sorts of new attributes which modify their stats. You can all sorts of cool and often hilarious interactions and events going on in your court.
And you'll encounter moments of both great luck and great tradgedy. You will remember your prodigal heir who fell victim to a blowback from your own botched foreign policy endeavours. You will also remember, though with a heartful of disgust, the prodigal heir's retarded brother who, then rose to the crown, and though utterly incompetent, survived for 40 years as a monarch, leading your glorious empire to a complete ruin.
You will remember that mighty dynasty that you took under your wing, whom you protected when their own lands were lost, whom you nurtured even, providing them with new fertile lands for their dedicated loyalty to your court. Yes, you will remember. Remember the moment when you asked them for a little help, a little repayment of the goodwill you had displayed towards their once lost family. You will remember how they laughed, and then stabbed you right in the back, while you were now left utterly helpless because you had entrusted too much to their care.
You will remember that night, when the messenger came running into your chambers, huffing and puffing, and right when you were wondering whether you should kill him for the intrusion, he delivered the news: somehow, somewhere, the King of Sweden had died, his family wiped out, and you, a minor count of Ross were the only surviving heir to the Throne.
You will remember that traitorous and deadly bastard son, who plotted against you, but thankfully was overcome by those heathen Mongols before he could march for your lands. You will also remember the slight joy you felt at this news, right before your advisors told you that the heathens had now declared for your own lands. After that, you will remember only fear.
But remember you will.
So I say, buy it and see. It's definitely worth it.
You will remember that mighty dynasty that you took under your wing, whom you protected when their own lands were lost, whom you nurtured even, providing them with new fertile lands for their dedicated loyalty to your court. Yes, you will remember. Remember the moment when you asked them for a little help, a little repayment of the goodwill you had displayed towards their once lost family. You will remember how they laughed, and then stabbed you right in the back, while you were now left utterly helpless because you had entrusted too much to their care.
You will remember that night, when the messenger came running into your chambers, huffing and puffing, and right when you were wondering whether you should kill him for the intrusion, he delivered the news: somehow, somewhere, the King of Sweden had died, his family wiped out, and you, a minor count of Ross were the only surviving heir to the Throne.
You will remember that traitorous and deadly bastard son, who plotted against you, but thankfully was overcome by those heathen Mongols before he could march for your lands. You will also remember the slight joy you felt at this news, right before your advisors told you that the heathens had now declared for your own lands. After that, you will remember only fear.
But remember you will.
So I say, buy it and see. It's definitely worth it.
I don't remember all that.
But I definitly remember the time my mother declared war on me. Technically she lost, but you don't really win a war against your mother.
Nick
But I definitly remember the time my mother declared war on me. Technically she lost, but you don't really win a war against your mother.
Nick
yes i have never played either... i am looking to play before the end of the day though since on gamersgate the game is some ridiculous price like 9.95 lol....
i have a somewhat ignorant question.... from the screenshots the map looks almost nothing like that of EU3 (not that it should, but i like that you can see your armies very well on EU3's map)... are there different graphical modes that you can put your map in, like in EU3? different views i guess is a better way to ask this?
i have a somewhat ignorant question.... from the screenshots the map looks almost nothing like that of EU3 (not that it should, but i like that you can see your armies very well on EU3's map)... are there different graphical modes that you can put your map in, like in EU3? different views i guess is a better way to ask this?
They have like 4 modes, 2 of which are Geological and Political. Those are the only ones I use.