South America Improvement Suggestions

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This game is awesome. It's like Hearts of Iron 3, except that my computer can run it.

However, there are some things I don't like about the game, particularly the messy new technology system. If you could add the dates for the technologies (like in the past versions), it could probably be very helpful.

Well, aside from that, I have some suggestions on how to improve the South American "experience" (If you would like to call it that). If you'd like to contribute to this list of suggestions for South America, or just want to comment on it, feel free to post.

Suggestions:

President of Colombia

February 1933: President (head of state) of Colombia is Enrique Olaya.

August 7, 1934: Olaya replaced by Alfonso Lopez Pumarejo.

President of Venezuela

February 1933: President (HoS) of Venezuela is Juan Vicente Gomez.

December 17, 1935: Gomez replaced by Eleazar Lopez Contreras

President of Peru

February 1933: President (HoS) of Peru is Luis Sanchez Cerro.

April 30, 1933: Sanchez Cerro gets assassinated. Successor is Oscar Benavides Larrea.

President of Ecuador

February 1933: Juan de Dios Martínez is president.

October 20, 1933: Abelardo Montalvo becomes new president.

September 1, 1934: José María Velasco Ibarra becomes new president.

Colombia-Peru War

September 1, 1932 - May 24, 1933

Colombia and Peru face off in an interesting conflict simultaneous to the Chaco War between Bolivia and Paraguay. This conflict is interesting for this game for two main reasons:

1. It's a war between the South American nations, which is not too common in the game.
2. The League of Nations actually gets involved and acquires territory for a while (since you have the League of Nations in the game, it would be fun for those who select to play as them).

Quick History:
Peru has claims on the Colombian province of Leticia, and both nations bring out their troops to the Amazon region. The conflict didn't really get beyond that region (particularly because Sanchez Cerro died), but it did have some interesting consequences.

To help you out, I'll make an outline of the events (That is, if you decide to add this into the game):

1. Game starts February 1, 1933: Peruvian troops hold Leticia.
2. Both sides should have air forces. This was the first time in South America that air forces fought each other.
3. April 30, 1933, Sanchez Cerro (Peru) dies and the new president Oscar Benavides signs armistice with Colombia.
3. On May 24, 1933, the area is awarded to the League of Nations. They keep control over the area until they come to a decision.
4. On May 24, 1934, League of Nations return Leticia to Colombia.
5. Agreement is made by the League of nations that the Putumayo River will from then on separate both nations (the deal is still stands to this day). Peru gives up claims on Leticia, and both nations agree to respect the natural border.


That's all I have in mind for now. I hope you decide to include these events into the game. Thanks for reading!

 

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I thought about something else:

New Nation: Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Araucania_and_Patagonia

This one is actually quite factual and strategically valuable.

To this day, the people of Araucania constantly demand autonomy (which the governments in the region deny to them); and the people from the Patagonia are quite distanced from the government in Argentina. If, for instance, the Axis would have invaded the area, they could have easily gained popular support by liberating this nation of Araucania and Patagonia.

In terms of strategy, it helps to keep the most important parts of Argentina (the La Plata region, with Buenos Aires). Having to deal with partisans in the harsh mountain region of Patagonia is a nuissance, but if you create a puppet government there then they could even provide troops to help keep the more-important (victory points) regions of Argentina under control.

 

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Not many people seem to have other suggestions.

Well, here are some more:

National Provinces Fix: Bolivia

I noticed that the game has Bolivia as having national claims on the following provinces (when they shouldn't):

1. Province # 3761: Arica
2. Province # 3762: Iquique

Both provinces are under the control of Chile. However, only Peru should have national claims on these provinces (which they do already in the game).
Bolivia gave up its claims on these provinces (Arica and Iquique) way back in the middle of the 19th century (1800s), when it signed a Defensive Alliance Treaty with Peru.
According to the terms of the Defensive Alliance, Peru would recognise Bolivian claims in the Atacama Desert, while Bolivia would recognise Peruvian claims on its part of the region.

There is also this province (Bolivia should have a claim on this one):

3. Province # 839 : Antofagasta

Bolivia should have national claims on Antofagasta. Antofagasta was under Bolivian posession prior to the "War of the Pacific" with Chile. There is a controversy over who founded the city, but both sides claim it (to this day as well).

National Provinces Fix: Chile

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beagle_Channel_cartography_since_1881

One of the major aspects that the game lacks is the traditional rivalry between Chile and Argentina. However, at various points during these times both countries were often close to war.

The main issue they contend, even until today, is over the ownership of the "Tierra del Fuego" province. As such:

1. Province # 865: Tierra del Fuego

Chile should have a national claim on this province, which Argentina owns in the game.

It's both historically correct and adds a more accurate diplomatic relation situation between both countries (Chile and Argentina).

 

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Well, about 78 people have read this, so hopefully this means that at least one of the game developers has taken a look at the suggestions.

I'll keep posting some more suggestions.

It's actually quite terrible to see how underdeveloped South America seems to be in the game. Sure, these aren't the top of the cream in power or technology, but they also aren't the apparently weak and ignorant that the game makes them be (which is surely not intended).

So, for the sake of providing a more accurate picture of the situation, hopefully the following will convince you to improve South American technology and power.

Reviewing the Peruvian Air Force: Technology and Units

Here are some articles (in Spanish) regarding the creation of Peru's Air Force:

History
http://www.ccffaa.mil.pe/BIBLIOTECA_MATERIAL/RevistaCCFFAA2_2.pdf
http://www.fap.mil.pe/historia.htm
http://aeronaves.netai.net/histo.htm

Units
http://aeronaves.netai.net/o2u.htm
http://aeronaves.netai.net/f11.htm
http://aeronaves.netai.net/o38p.htm

The following can be proven from the articles...

By 1933:
1. Peru already had a separate Air Force entity (created in 1929).
2. Peru had a series of "observation" planes, which were outfitted as what the game classifies as "prewar fighters" (and, they were also used as bombers). They were purchased from the USA.
3. To be more accurate, Peru has 3 prewar fighters and 3 prewar interceptors stationed in Iquitos.
4. Peru has 3 prewar fighters stationed in Lima.
5. Peru also has an Air base in Iquitos (Province # 818).
6. In terms of Air Doctrine technologies, Peru should have:
--Air Power.
--Air Superiority.
--Bombing Doctrine.
--Air Patrol.
--Independent Airforce.
7. In terms of Aircraft Technology:
--Int./Fighter Plans. (Already has it)
--Int./Fighter Prototype.


Well, this took quite a bit of research time. I'll try to provide the Colombian Air Force stats tomorrow.

The basic point to understand here is that the South American nations did have developed militaries, though still basic, and their military technology was also decent, but still basic.

The game currently has most of them as militarily weak; but conflicts such as the Chaco War and the Colombia-Peru War were widely watched by the Western Powers as the South American nations were essentially the "testing ground" for many of their equipment.

 

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I'm a Hungary specialist, not a South-American But these things look cool

 

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I'd like to begin this new post with notifying of some corrections on prior posts. First, in the first post of this thread, I took out the amount of planes Colombia and Peru should have. First, Peru did not have any "real" bomber planes, but they did have "Prewar Fighters" and "Prewar Interceptors" which were given bombing missions. Then, Colombia also had a certain amount of planes which I will proceed to discuss in this post.

Also, I would like to mention (before anyone else does, though nobody thus far seems to be commenting on the thread except for me) that I am attempting to be as factual as possible in regards to my suggestions (I'm not making these things up, that's why I provide verifiable links).

Perhaps some of you may question, "Why should Peru get so many airplanes in comparisson to other South American nations?" I can provide two answers for that question. First, I still have yet to provide information regarding the other air forces in South America, which will surely bring about a better balanced situation. Second, based on the sources I provided, Peru had one of the most advanced Air Forces in South America at that time (though, arguably, they apparently had some technical errors); it's no joke, and even to this day you can see that Peru places plenty of emphasis on its Air power (though, once again arguably, they probably still have plenty of technical errors).

With that being said, I'll now provide my suggestion for improving the Colombian Air Force:

Reviewing the Colombian Air Force: Technology and Units

The Colombian Air Force has an interesting situation at this time. Several of the airplanes they used in the Colombia-Peru War were transport planes outfitted to be bombers; however, these weren't really "bombers" as one would picture them (instead, imagine pre World War II transport planes being used to drop bombs). I cannot effectively classify those under any category in the game.

Luckily, the Colombian congress authorized the purchase of several German and US aircraft (most stayed in Bogota, but some were deployed to fight in the Amazon). The strange thing is that the Colombian Air Force changed from having few barely adequate combat planes to have nearly 30 or more of them; but the problem is that there were not enough Colombian men who knew how to use the planes, so they also hired mercenaries from Germany (led by a certain German named Herbert Boy, apparently).

According to this source:
https://www.fac.mil.co/?idcategoria=217

Colombia had 11 "war planes" in the Amazon (all functional and used). However, three of those planes apparently were practically useless (and I can't classify them in game terms). So, based on that, these were the functional planes Colombia had in 1933:

1. Colombia has 2 prewar interceptors.
2. Colombia has 6 prewar fighters.
3. Air Doctrine technology, Colombia should have:
--Air Power.
--Bombing Doctrine.
--Air Superiority.
--Independent Air Force.
4. Aircraft technology seems fine as it is in the game.

 

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I'm a Hungary specialist, not a South-American But these things look cool

Thank you. I'm attempting to be as verifiable as possible with the information I'm providing, so hopefully the developers will at least take a look and smile (even if they decide not to add any of these things to the game).

I'm from Europe as well, Italy to be exact, but I enjoy playing with South American countries in the game. They can definately be very fun to play with, but it is often unrealistically easy to topple the South American countries when, in reality, many of these countries had plenty of troops and other armaments. This is also why there were several military heads of state and government (the so-called "Caudillos," which were closely related to the Fascist dictators of Europe) in South America: they both boosted the South American military to increase the country's strength and also to maintain themselves in power.

I hope you keep enjoying the work, and thanks again for replying.

 

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Good work! I hope the Devs will see this!

 

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We are reading all posts. Please keep it up
Regarding the link to a spanish websites, don't worry, I think that we can read them with no problems at all

 

[Turul]

What a surprise All of you are spanish?

 

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Good work! I hope the Devs will see this!

Thank you.

More Suggestions

In regards to the Ecuadorian Air Force:
http://www.fuerzaaereaecuatoriana.mil.ec/informacion-institucional/historia.html

1. Ecuador did not have an independent air force until 1943 (not 1933).
2. Ecuador had airplane schools since 1920, but still no actual air force.
3. So, basically, the Ecuadorian air force is correct by the 1933 scenario.

Terrain Fixes: Atacama Desert
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Atacama_map.svg

The links shows a map to the Atacama desert. The game has some of these sections as hills or something of that sort, but they should be deserts. I'll make a list of the provinces that I changed in my game to become deserts (it wasn't too difficult to change them):

Arequipa: Province 831.
Moquegua: Province 3759.
Tacna: Province 3760.
Arica: Province 3761.
Iquique: Province 3762.
Tocopilla: Province 3763.
Calama: Province 3764.

 

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We are reading all posts. Please keep it up
Regarding the link to a spanish websites, don't worry, I think that we can read them with no problems at all

Thank you!

It really feels great to know that the developers are taking a look at this. If you have any questions, please do ask them. I'll keep trying to provide as much links as possible to verify my suggestions.

Reviewing the Chilean Air Force: Technology and Units

It's difficult to find the specifics in regards to Chile since no important military action happened in 1933. However, from 1931-1932, Chile had to use its air force to end a revolt in Coquimbo (one of their cities).

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sublevación_de_la_Escuadra_de_Chile
http://www.fach.cl/hitos.htm
http://www.fach.cl/main_hitos2.htm

The wikipedia article in the links is a Featured Article (which supposedly makes it highly reliable). The other two are timelines of the Chilean air force from their own website (they also talk about the 1931 issue).

Prior to the 1931 situation, the wiki article claims Chile had to use all of its air force, which was composed of 16 prewar fighters (Falcons and Vickers). However, during the conflict Chile lost 6 planes (1 was destroyed, and 5 were hit and rendered useless; however all made it back to their bases). Additionally, the 2 Vickers planes had plenty of technical difficulties, some which were partially fixed, but the plane's inability to function properly led it to be retired on 1934.

Based on these facts, it would be fair to say that on 1933 Chile had:
1. 8 prewar fighters (or 10, depends on your decision), stationed in Santiago.
2. Air Doctrine:
--Air Power.
--Independent Airforce.
--Air Superiority.
--Bombing Doctrine.
3. Aircraft Technology:
--Int./Fighter Prototype.


Well, I think this is all I'll post for today. Later on I will focus on the Chaco War between Paraguay and Bolivia, both whom had extensive use of their air force (and who also claim to have had the first air combat in South America).

The Chaco War is bound to be an interesting search, particularly considering all of the military equipment Bolivia and Paraguay received from their "secret" allies the St. Oil Co. and Shell Co.

 

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Prior to starting this section, I have to say that I checked the United Kingdom Air Force stats in the game in 1933, and for some reason their Air Doctrine is a bit behind from what I would have imagined. For instance, the RAF was established in 1918 as an independent arm of the military, and yet the UK doesn't have that technology (Ind. Air Force Technology). Another interesting fact is that in both the Colombia-Peru War and the Chaco War, German aircraft and pilots fought for specific sides (Colombia and Bolivia); yet, Germany had no official independent Air Force until 1935.

So, it really is a bit awkward to have the South American nations with these air forces (especially considering Germany doesn't even have one); but consider another couple of things. Fist, much of the aircraft was bought by these nations (not produced); in fact, some aircraft was managed to be produced within the country, but it was easier for them to buy it from the bigger powers (France, the UK, and the US mainly). Second, since these countries were at war during the early 30s, they managed to perform some interesting "semi-modern" missions that the other European powers didn't (since they were "at peace"); hence why I suggest to improve the South American air force doctrines. Yet, after the 1930s, only Peru and Ecuador were involved in another conflict; and that was about it (which, in contrast to Europe, World War II was full-fledged and military technology was booming much rapidly).

Now I will focus on the "Guerra del Chaco" (Bolivia v Paraguay) air forces.

First, the "Gran Chaco" itself is just a semi-arid terrain; there's only a bunch of wild animals, and at the time some colonies, but in terms of human population it was mainly filled with natives (Neither "Bolivian" or "Paraguayan" in terms of nationality). However, instead of allowing these people to govern themselves, both countries claimed the land was theirs (especially since there apparently seemed to be oil in the area).

Both Paraguay and Bolivia had plenty of troops at this time; many of which they acquired in the time prior to the Great Depression. Bolivia was particularly wealthy due to its silver mines. Yet, instead of spending the money on their infrastructure, they decided to buy military weaponry for their use in the chaco region (both Bolivia and Paraguay both knew at this time that war was soon to erupt, particularly since both governments started following aggressive colonization practices in the area).

The ultimate result of the war was simply the area getting split between Bolivia and Paraguay, with Paraguay getting a larger share (which, essentially, is what the game portrays as Paraguay at the start of 1933).


Reviewing the Bolivian Air Force: Technology and Units

http://www.aviacionboliviana.net/fab/chaco/caza.htm
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operaciones_aéreas_en_la_Guerra_del_Chaco

Both of the links are in Spanish. The top link has a list of the Bolivian airplanes prior, at the start, and during the war. However, I am only interested in the [awesome] 1933 scenario of Iron Cross, so I will just focus on that. The bottom link is a wiki history of the aerial operations during the war (which will help justify the technologies of these countries).

So, by 1933, Bolivia had:
1. 13 prewar fighters (fully functional). The majority of other aircraft Bolivia had were either old transport types and old observation types outfitted as prewar fighters (but which really weren't used for anything other than observation). However, they had Vickers and Curtis Hawk II planes (which compose the 13 fighters) which were quite advanced for their time in South America.
2. On 1933, date is not specified, Bolivia smuggles (illegally acquires) 20 prewar fighters from Curtis-Wright. Bolivia acquired these planes during 1933, and they replaced much of their other aircraft fleet with these planes; I'm not sure how this could be included in the game (maybe an event?).
3. In terms of Air Doctrine technology:
--Air Power.
--Bombing Doctrine.
--Tactical Air Supply (not independent air force, mainly for the fact that the Bolivian Air Force had the main focus to supply the troops in the Chaco rather than the fight on its own, though they did have some dogfights; this was unlike the others already mentioned--Colombia, Chile, and Peru--which used mostly their navies for supply and support, while the air force had independent tasks; part of this may be that Bolivia did not have an actual navy to provide much support for their troops in the Chaco).
--Air Superiority.

Reviewing the Paraguayan Air Force: Technology and Units

http://www.fuerzaaerea.mil.py/index.php?cod=los años 30&plan=1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potez_25

The first article is a Paraguayan account of missions and the aircraft they used. The second link is a wiki article regarding the "Potez 25" planes, which Paraguay used, and there is a mention of the Paraguayan planes acquired.

There's not much to say about the Paraguayan air force other than that they were outnumbered by the Bolivian air force throughout the war, and they got support from Argentina and Uruguay through pilot volunteers and aircraf smugglers. Yet, they managed to basically keep the Bolivians "at bay" (for lack of a better term).

Based on this, by 1933 Paraguay had:
1. 6 prewar fighters.
2. Paraguay acquires 8 prewar fighters on March 23, 1933; however, this is a bit past the date the game starts at (so this can either be an event, or leave it out; much like the 20 prewar fighters Bolivia acquired; my suggestion would be to leave both of them out since they were both acquired illegally and are past the starting date).
3. In terms of Air Doctrine technology:
--Air Power.
--Independent Air Force (In this case, Paraguay also had a good use of its navy for supplies; they have access to the Paraguay-Parana rivers, which lead to the Atlantic).
--Bombing Doctrine.
--Air Superiority.

Regarding the Venezuelan AND Uruguayan Air Forces

Venezuela and Uruguay didn't develop an Air Force until 1946 and 1935, respectively, but they did have flight schools and other whatnot in regards to airplanes. So, up to now only three South American countries shouldn't have air forces at the start of the 1933 scenario:

-Ecuador.
-Venezuela.
-Uruguay.


All that is left now should be a review on the Argentinean and Brazilian air forces (which ought to be the most interesting; but, so far I've been surprised in many of the findings I've made on these different countries).

I'll probably list these other two air forces sometime this week, perhaps tomorrow. This is all for today.

 

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I like this a lot but u should be careful. One plane doesnt mean one unti in HoI, else Germany would be above 1000 Fighters in '40. If Paraguay had 6 Fighters in '33, it would mean 1 very low strengh unit ingame if u ask me.

Else very great work, ich really hope the team will include that.

 

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I like this a lot but u should be careful. One plane doesnt mean one unti in HoI, else Germany would be above 1000 Fighters in '40. If Paraguay had 6 Fighters in '33, it would mean 1 very low strengh unit ingame if u ask me.

Else very great work, ich really hope the team will include that.

Yes, I remember reading somewhere that each unit in HoI has a certain equivalent. Thank you for pointing that out.

However, these are just suggestions to the development team. I am sure they know much more than I do about the game balancing (particularly in the sense of units in regards to actual numbers); also, since they can read Spanish, surely they will be able to look at the links and come to their own conclusions.

The basic point from these air force "suggestions" is just to show that the South American countries did have air forces, and that they did use them in the battlefield. It's historically accurate to give them at least some prewar fighters/interceptors; and it's also historically accurate to give them some air force doctrine technologies considering they did use varied strategies with their air forces.

Of course, I by no means intend to make the South American nations more powerful than the European countries, which would be completely incorrect. That's why I'm sure the developers--if they do decide to take some of my suggestions--will still keep the game balanced.

Nonetheless, if any of you could please provide me an approximate on how many individual airplanes is the equivalent to one game unit, that might really help me make review the past suggestions and also have improved future ones.

Thanks again gutschi.

 

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I went ahead and did some more research on the matter, but all I ended up finding was the wiki site describing how many aircraft were in a squadron, wing (group), and division.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USAF_Air_Division

So, what I ended up understanding was:

Squadron = 12 to 24 aircraft (which averages to 18).
Wing = 24 to 48 aircraft (which averages to 36).
Division = 48 to 96 aircraft (which averages to 72).

Based on this, I will revise each of the air force units I already posted (however, the technology suggestions remain the same). This time I will take into account the following: All airplanes outfitted as fighters (including the former transport and observation divisions which I did not include in prior posts), and also the number of officers available in order to come up with a relatively accurate estimate (though I can't say exact). Also, as I further read into this material, it came to my senses that all of these countries really only had what Iron Cross calls "Prewar fighters." Even the originally non-fighting aircraft were outfitted as fighters; none focused on interceptors, or bombers (though the prewar fighters were used for bombing missions).

Revised Aircraft Divisions Suggestions

Peru
-1 prewar fighter stationed in Iquitos.
-1 prewar fighter stationed in Lima.

Colombia
-1 prewar fighter in Bogota.

Chile
-1 prewar fighter in Santiago.

Bolivia
-2 prewar fighters in La Paz.

Paraguay
-1 prewar fighter in Asuncion.


The numbers really went down, but there were still enough for at least one unit. I didn't stick completely to the guidelines of the "divisions" since each country has separate numbers for what they call a division or even a squadron, but most were close to the guidelines I found in the wiki.

For some countries it made sense as well. Bolivia can spend more on aircraft than ships, hence they had more numbers of those. Chile spends more on ships than aircraft, hence their numbers being low (though, after the 1931-32 incident, they discovered the importance of naval bombardment). Peru had plenty of time to form a relatively large air force, which they did, and they kept two large shares (one in Lima and the other went to Iquitos to fight Colombia). Colombia had to rapidly assemble their power in the area, which they managed particularly due to mercenary aircraft and pilots. Paraguay always had fewer aircraft than Bolivia in the Chaco War, but still managed to fight them.

I'm a bit embarrased by the earlier unit mistakes, but these should be much more accurate. My sincere apologies! o

Thanks for the help, comments, and readings!

I have yet to do Argentina and Brazil.

 

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Reviewing the Argentine and Brazilian Air Forces

http://www.fuerzaaerea.mil.ar/historia/sinopsis_historica.html

The above is a splendid article regarding the Argentine AF. Apparently, by 1933 Argentina had a highly advanced school of flight; however, they had no air force. By 1927, Argentina even had an aircraft manufacturer. Yet, the air force would not form until 1944! Along with that, they would only participate in a couple of military actions: A coup and the Falklands War.

I checked the technology teams for Argentina, and the factory (called "FMA") is in the game already. Argentina also has 2 airforce divisions in the game, including one naval aircraft. I find that to be a bit awkward, but maybe I'm the one that's having the wrong ideas here (in regards to not giving airplanes to the nations that haven't developed an air force).

A similar thing happens with Brazil, which didn't develop an air force until 1941. They already have an air division stationed in Sao Paulo.

I just find it awkward that both Brazil and Argentina already have air forces in the game, when the other South American nations (which historically already did have air forces in the game by 1933) aren't even given good air force technologies.

I wouldn't know how to deal with this situation; so I'll leave this for the developers to decide.

This would be about it in regards to the aircraft history of South America. Next I would like to make some suggestions regarding the economies of the South American countries, but that will be left for tomorrow.

Thanks!

 

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Second Round of Suggestions: Naval Focus

I was looking for the economic regions of South America, but ended up finding an article in regards to the Peruvian navy. It was a highly interesting article, particularly because it mentioned all the ships Peru had up until 1933 (Names and type); it's a great find, and I will post it in this message. However, the link is in Spanish, so if any of you are naval aficionados, I do completely suggest you find a translator to read the fun article.

Reviewing the Peruvian Navy: Units and Technology

http://www.marina.mil.pe/resena_historica/larepublica_sigloxx.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Peruvian_Navy_ships#Transports

I already explained much of what the first article is about, and the second article is a wiki list (incomplete) of Peruvian ships. First, Peru currently has 4 naval units in the game (2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, and 1 submarine). In this case, it seems that naval units have an equivalent of one single ship (which is easier for me, I suppose; but if I'm wrong in this assumption please tell me). The ships in the game are apparently accurate for 1933 (with the exception of the submarines, but I will deal with that later), but some are missing. Here are my suggestions for the missing ships:

1. Peru should have 4 transports (Adapted Ships, TP-1) in Lima. The names are:
--Iquitos
--Chalaco
--Santa Rosa
--Constitución
2. Peru should have an additional 1 light cruiser (Type I) named:
--Lima
3. Peru should have an additional 1 light cruiser (Type II) named:
--Teniente Rodríguez
4. Peru should have an additional 2 destroyers (Type I) named:
--Almirante Villar
--Almirante Guise

5. Peruvian Submarines

http://fuerzamilitarperu.foroactivo.net/submarinos-f26/fuerza-de-submarinos-t14.htm

The above has an interesting story of the submarines of Peru around this time. Basically, both this information and the previous link demonstrate that the Peruvian submarine currently in the game apparently does not exist (At least not at this time period).

So, the real story is that in 1911 Peru buys two submarines from France, these apparently being those models used in World War I; and by 1919 both of these submarines are useless. Then, in 1926 and 1928 Peru buys an order of recently made submarines from the USA, these being the "R" class. The first, R-1 and R-2 ships are apparently much like what the game considers basic Type I submarines. However, the R-3 and R-4 (produced 2 years later) are much better for some reason, to the point that "The New London Day" published an article in 1928 in which it praised the Peruvian R-3 submarine as one of the most advanced in the world (or at least that's what the link claims).

5. Peru should have 2 submarines Type I (SS - 1). Named:
--Casma
--Islay
6. Peru should have 2 submarines Type II (SS - 2). Named:
--Pacocha
--Arica
7. The "Grau" and "Bolognesi" Heavy Cruisers seem to be correct, so there is no need to change them.

And that's about it for the Peruvian navy. The only two countries in South America which probably shouldn't have navies are Bolivia and Paraguay (at least not in the game restrictions), I'll write about the others later.

Best regards to all.