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I agree, the spies indicate that they only have 8 CV left.
We should send 5 legions(cv 14) under the command of Lentulus to Aquitania.
Another 5 legions (cv 14) stay in central Gaul to seige the town under Aelianus.
The last legion (cv 2) is sent back to italia to be reinforced.
1 legion (cv 3) stays in the south of italia.
 
OOC: We have that many? Oh wait, you're leaving some understrength legions in there ..
Well, we can reinforce them in place I guess.
 
randakar said:
OOC: We have that many? Oh wait, you're leaving some understrength legions in there ..
Well, we can reinforce them in place I guess.
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I know that normaly i'm more in favour of retreating those legions but i don't believe thats possible in big wars.
Therefore i would suggest to spread them out so they can all be reinforced.
 
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We still have 4 legions in need of reinforcements.
Still, after a more focused rereading of the spy reports, the fledgling enemy army seems indeed to be severely weakened. In which case pursuing them with 5 legions, and keeping 4 or 5 legions to siege Alesia, seems reasonable. With luck, we'll crush them.

I don't have the same direct knowledge of inner Gaul that other tribunes had, which was acquired at a high cost (or more exactly, which came only after military defeats), so sending me there might look risky; but then, it's only a siege and there's no enemy troops big enough to threaten me, so I think I'll manage to adapt to the local conditions without serious losses.

Sextus Atilius
 
Middelkerke said:
I agree, the spies indicate that they only have 8 CV left.
We should send 5 legions(cv 14) under the command of Lentulus to Aquitania.
Another 5 legions (cv 14) stay in central Gaul to seige the town under Aelianus.
The last legion (cv 2) is sent back to italia to be reinforced.
1 legion (cv 3) stays in the south of italia.
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I'll support this plan, provided our consul agrees and reïnforces the understrength legions where possible.

-- Gnaeus Scipio Lentulus
 
Ok, I will issue orders along the lines of that plan, with the exception of leaving the understrength legions in Alesia and devoting 15CV to randakar's army.

From the 3 damaged legions, I leave one in Alesia to reinforce, pull back one to Lugdunum and reinforce, and pull another one to Narbonensis and reinforce. From the two legions in Venetia, I will send one to Alesia too.
 
reis91 said:
From the 3 damaged legions, I leave one in Alesia to reinforce, pull back one to Lugdunum and reinforce, and pull another one to Narbonensis and reinforce. From the two legions in Venetia, I will send one to Alesia too.
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Just read through it, but that`s not how it works. Legions may only be reinforced where they are at the start of the turn, otherwise it`s too easy. Especially since you already outnumber the enemy.
 
End of Phoenician War​

Seleucia, being completely outnumbered and outmaneuvered, has to beg for peace. And the initial terms proposed by Egypt are hard, since it wants the Provinces of Phoenicia and Coele Syria plus reparations of 1.000 Denarii to be paid over a period of five turns.

Confronted with these terms, Antigonos II. Theos considers to keep fighting, although the fortunes of war were against him so far. Then an envoy send by Consul Quintus Livius Varro appears to meddle. In a brilliant display of charm and diplomatic skills, the roman emissary can make the Egyptians to stand back from some of their claims.

Finally a treaty is signed, that grants Egypt the Province of Phoenicia and a single payment of 300 Denarii. Additionally, Seleucia has to cancel its Alliance with Pontus. In the aftermath, the two countries pull back their forces from the borders and disband some of their units.

Then, after five years of campaigns and bloodshed, the people may enjoy peace again.
 
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Early 253 B.C.​

Senate report:
Senator Gaius Draconius builds an Arena in Etruria.

Consul report:
Quintus Livius Varro informs the Senate about two successful envoy. The one in Seleucia succeeded in meddling a peace treaty, that weakens Seleucia but doesn`t let Egypt get too strong.

The other envoy send to Syracuse convinced Hieron II. not only to cancel the trade agreement with Seleucia, but also sign one with Rome.

Pontifex report:
A sacrificial ritual performed in honor of Jupiter pleases the population, but has no further effects.

Afterward Lucius Aquila starts a voyage through several roman provinces and succeeds in raising the Happiness in Apulia and Bruttium by 5. Arriving in Arretium (Etruria) he personally holds the auspices for prior of the construction of a new aqueduct, that proceed very beneficial. The Happiness raises by 10.

Since the Gaul War continues, the Happiness in all provinces drops by 1.

Provinces with below-average Happiness are Etruria, Lugdinensis, Venetia (46 each), Apulia, Bruttium, Campania (41 each), Umbria (31) and Latium (21).

Aedile report:
none

Quaestor report:
Surprisingly Tiberius Belisarius fails to oversee the tax collection properly, allegedly because he spends much time with a cute little greek playmate down at the harbor. Thus the tax revenues of the last six months sum up to only 841 Denarii. The Treasury holds 2.785 Denarii.

[= 2.301 (last turn`s Treasury) - 60 (Reinforcements) - 50 (Envoys) - 75 (Ritual) - 175 (Happiness) + 841 (Taxes)]

Censor report:
Due to his overwhelming diplomacy, the popularity of Consul Quintus Livius Varro raises to +2. The popularity of Lucius Aquila improves to +2.

When the people learn, that Tribune Gnaeus Scipio Lentulus ordered all three Legions to remain in Central Gaul instead of sending the weakened to other Provinces for replenishments, so they were present to fight the Gaul forces and thus probably avoided a bitter defeat, his popularity increases to +2 and some people begin to speculate, if a Triumph will be granted to him.

The popularity of Tiberius Belisarius decreases to -1.

The popularity of Sextus Atilius Aelianus remains +1 and the one of Publius Annaeus -1.

Tribune report:
Reinforcements arrive in Cisalpine Gaul and Central Gaul.

Tribune Gnaeus Scipio Lentulus moves to Aquitania with five Legions and is surprised to find no sign of the Gaul troops. Finally he realizes, that the information about the direction, the Gaul troops are taking, must have been false.

Vercingetorix sees his chance to surprise the weakened roman forces in Central Gaul and returns from Belgica with his forces. But he is unaware of the fact, that Tribune Sextus Atilius Aelianus arrived with another Legion to reinforce the siege around Alesia. Although his entrenchments around Alesia protect the forces from attacks from both directions, the Gauls can surmount the wall and cause heavy damage before they are repulsed. On the other hand, a concurrent sally from Alesia is easily repelled and the Garrison`s forces suffer some casualties (Warscore: 1).

Spy report:
The Spy reports, that there are 5 tribal units left in Central Gaul and probably no other units in the adjacent Provinces.

Furthermore he finally gained proof, that a payment of 500 Denarii was delivered from Carthage to Vercingetorix. Allegedly large recruitments take place.

Foreign affairs:
- A peace treaty is signed between Egypt and Seleucia that ends the Phoenician War


(Deadline is Wednesday, 4 PM GMT)
 
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Finnish Dragon said:
OOC: I think that is a valid casus belli on Carthage but I think we should focus on defeating the Gauls first. Perhaps an alliance with Egypt would be in order to contain those Carthaginean dogs.
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For the future, of course. And we might be able to use this somehow to get the Egyptians to sign a Defensive Pact/Alliance with us, because they may fear Carthage might win the Punic war and grow too powerful for them to handle...
 
We should build more legions. Atleast 2 maybe even 3. Campania and Etruria are good candidates.
Our income has never been higher (thanks to the trade deals).

We need to do our legion dance again. The legions in Lugdinensis and Venetia need to be send to Central Gaul.
The legion With 1 cv needs to get there buts out of there before they get them kicked again.

Since we didn't encounter troops in aquitania shouldn't we be seiging the city?
 
There are two main issues to concern:

1. Now we do know the location of the Gaul main army. We should use our troops at Central Gaul to pin down the Gauls. At the same time our forces at Aquitania should be recalled and ordered to force march so that we can sandwich the Gaul main army between two Roman armies. If we are lucky then the Gaul main army will find itself between a hammer and an anvil.

2. I think we cannot trust our spy in Central Gaul. He gave us false information about the location of Gaul main army. I would be cautious trusting his reports. It is possible that Gauls are feeding him false information and it Greeks who supported the Gauls financially. However, we may be able to use this information diplomatically but we need to confirm that information before we can throw accusations at Carthagineans. Perhaps we can use that information to convince Transalpine Gaul to cancel their alliance with Carthage.

Senator Gaius Draconius

Personal order: Hire clients
 

Patres Conscriptii, Consul Varro,

Despite the populares assigning the credit to my command, I know well that without the input of the consul, misguided as it seemed at the time, the failure of the Gauls' cunning plan was not solely attributable to me. If nobody questioned the idea to go to aquitana we would never have hedged their bets in the way that we did.

Therefore, I salute thee. May our future cooperation prove just as fruitful.

The matter at hand now becomes a simple one. We must smash the gaul army in Central Gaul.

However, caution is to be advised. If our spy reports are accurate (this time around) they barbarians are in the process of recruiting more troops. It is only a matter of time (OOC: how much? 2 turns as well?) before more of these damned natives attempt to wrest victory from our grasp. The best course of action is to siege as many provinces as possible before these troops have time to form into a cohesive whole. It is unfortunate that there is the matter a remaining Gaulish army to defeat, so now is not yet the time for this. But we should consider it.

On the matter of foreign policy; Now would be the time to approach the Egyptians about a pact of some kind. I would support an alliance, but they may not be so receptive to this idea. Though you are proven to be a cunning diplomat, they may feel offended at our interference in their war. Nonetheless, we should point out that Carthage is a far graver threat to both our nations' security and theirs.

On the matter of remaining foreign policy: Greek Cities are obviously interfering with our tax collection. Whoever Tiberius Belisarius' little greek playmate is, she cannot be anything but a spy send to disrupt our administration. However, we need proof. Perhaps someone can find out who send her.

My position on Carthage is very simple; They prove to be every bit as backstabbing as we suspected they would be. If we were not so engaged in Central Gaul I would suggest sending them a sternly worded demand for reparation, as well as a demand they stop funding our enemies.

Now I simply suggest we wait with such demands, at least until Egypt accedes to an alliance.


edit: Indeed, I do hope I did do some damage to their garrison at least, I have 20.000 war-seasoned veterans under my command that grow bored if they don't find some gaul asses to kick .. :p

edit2: What is our war score against Gaul, exactly?
 
Finnish Dragon said:
There are two main issues to concern:

1. Now we do know the location of the Gaul main army. We should use our troops at Central Gaul to pin down the Gauls. At the same time our forces at Aquitania should be recalled and ordered to force march so that we can sandwich the Gaul main army between two Roman armies. If we are lucky then the Gaul main army will find itself between a hammer and an anvil.

2. I think we cannot trust our spy in Central Gaul. He gave us false information about the location of Gaul main army. I would be cautious trusting his reports. It is possible that Gauls are feeding him false information and it Greeks who supported the Gauls financially. However, we may be able to use this information diplomatically but we need to confirm that information before we can throw accusations at Carthagineans. Perhaps we can use that information to convince Transalpine Gaul to cancel their alliance with Carthage.

Senator Gaius Draconius

Personal order: Hire clients
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Veritas nunquam participatem bellum (Truth never played a part in wars... or atleast that's what I meant with my really cheap and cheesy Latin).

Regarding the spy, he didn't give any assurance about the destination of the troops, he just stated where they were, and I have no reason to believe him wrong there. I think Greece would fear, with Egypt embroiled in a war, to provoke us in such a manner, when they clearly cannot fight Macedonia and Roma alone...

I'll send an envoy to Egypt, proposing a Defensive Pact, showing evidence that Carthago provoked Roma, clearly having their eyes set on conquering us, and that their power should be held in check.
Another envoy will be sent to Pontus, offering a trade agreement to replace the Greek one.

Now, I'll have some work to do (playing a sort of educated lottery for marks in Management), so I'll delegate military powers upon a council made by our Tribunes, will allow our Pontifex liberty with funds for religious work (with the Censor keepng a close eye on it, preferably), no funds to our crooked Aedile, and drop the following personal orders:

Recruit clients

Now, I would advocate the following : Send a relief force to Central Gaul, around two legion's worth of men, and use the remainder to strike at Armorica, Belgica, Aquitania and possibly even Germania Superior, to fight their scattered levies being trained with foreign funds.
 
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