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The newly recruited Gaul forces will need alteast one more turn to get organised into a fighting force.
Maybe we should just storm Central Gaul so that our forces are free to fight in what i would like to believe could be the last big battle in this war.
Even if after that battle they still get more funds from Carthage/Greece they will simply not have the provinces to build another big army.
 
OOC order: Recruit clients

Reis, have fun. :)


Aulus,

I would hear opinions from the other senators before I commit to a course of action this time. Smashing the Gaulish army from behind and sieging their provinces sounds like a fine plan on paper, but it does entail risks. If any of the provinces are better defended than anticipated we may lose legions to their resistance. I would have the Senate on board for this before we commit to a course of action, especially as many of our legions are understrength and require reïnforcing.
 
I also don't believe in splitting up our armies. Atleast not untill after one last big battle (that we win :))
By the time they are ready to attack again (in 2 turns i believe) we should have 6 full legions in both provinces.
That should be enough to be able te resist them.
 
Middelkerke said:
I also don't believe in splitting up our armies. Atleast not untill after one last big battle (that we win :))
By the time they are ready to attack again (in 2 turns i believe) we should have 6 full legions in both provinces.
That should be enough to be able te resist them.
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Any other opinions? Senator Draconius? Tiberius?
 
I we shouldn´t divide our forces too much. I think our main goal is to destroy the main Gaul army at the Central Gaul. Those Gauls may have more units I expect that if have new units then they will move them to Central Gaul. Hitting the remaining Gaul army from two sides is something that we should do as fast as possible. The Gaul main army have fought hard and it have suffered losses. If their strength before this turn was about 8 CV then I think now it is around 5CV or 6 CV. Destroying that army and killing Vercingetorix in the process would most certainly demoralize the Gauls.

Senator Gaius Draconius
 
Middelkerke said:
Since we didn't encounter troops in aquitania shouldn't we be seiging the city?
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I wasn`t sure about that. The five Legions had not found the enemy army, so I didn`t know, if they stay to siege or leave to seek the enemy.

edit2: What is our war score against Gaul, exactly?
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I knew, I forgot something. Added.
 
Stuckenschmidt said:
I wasn`t sure about that. The five Legions had not found the enemy army, so I didn`t know, if they stay to siege or leave to seek the enemy.
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If they seeked the enemy, they would be in Central Gaul, wouldn't they? Unless some idiot commander decided that they should seek the enemy's wives and have fun...
 

That settles it.

Men! Today, we march!


OOC orders:
1) Reinforce legions in Aquitana, Central Gaul, Cisalpine Gaul, lowest CV first of course.
2) Move all full strength legions in Aquitana, Lugdunensis and Cisalpine Gaul to Central Gaul in order to surround and trap Vercingetorix' army between hammer and anvil.

If the understrength legion in Aquitana cannot be reïnforced before it engages in combat, move it to Cisalpine Gaul.

Can I move the 1 CV army in Central Gaul to Cisalpine Gaul as well or does it risk getting caught by Gauls if it detaches from that army at this time?

edit:
Personal order:
- Recruit clients
- Offer 100 Denarii to Hades, that he may take Vercingetorix and many of the Gaul, and grant our heroicly fallen safe passage into the Underworld.
 
Middelkerke said:
This leaves 1 legion in Aquitana :)
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If it gets reïnforced in time for it to be in battle condition, it moves to Central Gaul. If it can't, it moves to Cisalpine Gaul.
At least, that's the effect I was aiming for :p
 
randakar said:
If it gets reïnforced in time for it to be in battle condition, it moves to Central Gaul. If it can't, it moves to Cisalpine Gaul.
At least, that's the effect I was aiming for :p
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You can reinforce it whille on the move.
The reinforcement province is the province it starts the turn in not where it ends up.
 
Central Gaul it is, then :)
 
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Patres conscripti,

I'll sum up the recent events in the shortest and best way I can:
What a bloody mess!

As you know, I assumed this would be your usual siege and there would be either fighting in Aquitania or the typical hide-and-seek chase between Roman and enemy armies. And as I said, if the flight to Aquitania was a trick and they wanted to come back, we would have enough troops to stand our ground, repel and defeat them...
Well, at the very least, we had enough troops to stand our ground and repel them, though they haven't been defeated. Now, the army can rest for a bit, and wash the blood from the walls and blades. And we have many wounded that need all the care we can spare while not on guard duty.

Yet, one thing is sure: the oppidum is weakened by the siege and if our massive and convoluted double siege walls aren't breached in the next few months, the stronghold will surrender. Though that will still leave a sizable Gallic army in the countryside.
Still, even if we suffered very serious casualties, we inflicted as many on the attacking army; the relief army, so far, has utterly failed to pierce our defenses and Alesia is still under a heavy siege, with supplies running short. At the end of the day, they achieved nothing, we're still here, and this might well prove to be a strategic victory for us.

Now, we know they are busy recruiting fresh - and unexperienced - troops all around, which means at least in 3 provinces, possibly in Aquitania as well - I don't think they'll have much hope in Central Gaul, though.
So, even if right now my legions are as powerful as the whole Gallic troops in the province, this might change soon. Sending reinforcements to my legions, and a few more legions, is obviously required by the situation.
I'm not sure we can exfiltrate the most hardly hit legion, but if we can make a diversion big enough on one point of the walls, I'll make sure the surviving men will be able to go out through another remoter gate and make it safe to Lugdunum.

That said, we shouldn't leave Aquitania. As far as I'm concerned, I think Lentulus should send 3 full-strength legions to assault Vercingetorix from the rear - he's pinned down right here and isn't likely to move, if only because my cavalry will pursue him if he tries to leave - and nail him on our fortifications, and keep 2 legions to siege Aquitania. Considering there might be a local defense militia in Aquitanian countryside, and a possible tribal levy due in few months, we might need more than one single legion there.
It's also wise to send a 4th legion, from Lugdunum, to assist us in our next battle against Vercingetorix. On the other hand, I'm not convinced we should leave only one legion to defend Italy, so keeping 2 legions in Cisalpine Gaul and neighbouring province looks wiser to me.

Recruiting more troops is probably a good thing, but only Etruria would allow it.

About other foreign affairs, well done with Syracuse, and on a great job in the Phoenician peace - which was more or less the result I hoped to see there.
I find it interesting that Egypt doesn't seem to be too upset at our meddling in negotiating peace. They must probably fear Carthage and be glad we provided them with a quick peace - and one that weakened Seleucia while not humiliating Antiochos to the point he would busily sign an aggressive alliance with Carthage.
We can propose them a defensive alliance, which will be of limited use except against Carthage, but we should also be ready to settle for a mere non-aggression treaty if they don't want to commit to an alliance, as a sign of our goodwill towards them (while less useful, a NAP would at least neutralize Egypt, and might keep Carthage on the edge, wary that Egypt might grow opportnistic if we ever go to war with the Punic city).

Last but not least, the internal situation in Narbo and Rome is dire. Narbo really needs our Pontifex' attention. For Rome, since we have a newly-built arena there, I'll empty my treasury to organize some games in our beloved city, and bring some temporary happiness to our fellow citizens.

Valete!

SEXTVS ATILIVS AELIANVS
 
OOC: Agreed with Sextus. Changing my orders to match his plan.
 
randakar said:
OOC: Agreed with Sextus. Changing my orders to match his plan.
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I would be happy, if you all would elaborate your orders just a little bit more, so I have to guess a little bit less. :)
 
Ok, specifics:

- Reinforce as much as we can: 2 CV in Aquitana, Central Gaul, Cisalpine Gaul. (only one legion / province, right? Otherwise I'd reïnforce all of them :p)
- The CV 1 legion moves from Central Gaul to Cisalpine Gaul.
- 3 legions from Aquitana to Central Gaul. 2 stay behind, including the one that gets reïnforced.
- 1 legion from Lugdinensis to Central Gaul (making it 4 legions coming in from 2 different directions)
- Existing legions in Cisalpine Gaul and Venetia stay put.
- Order my MIL 1 NPC client tribune to take command of the Cisalpine Gaul stack. Or ask the Consul to order him :p
(Unless we have a free MIL 2 player to do so?)
 
Of course I'm only covering troop movements here, I hope our consul can order some further recruitment.
 
reis91 said:
Still no regions capable of recruitment, let's not forget it only takes one set-back to push them below the revolt threshold (Campania with Temple would drop to 26, same as Etruria without temple). Plus, you outnumber the Gauls already, so do your job properly, and you will not need more legions.
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It's backstabbing Carthaginians that worry me more than Gauls, to be honest.
I presume recruiting in Cisalpine Gaul is not an option? (No citizenship..)
 
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