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[Finnish Dragon]

These news are very disturbing. I think we should rethink our military plans. First, we cannot attack on Belgica now. We should continue sieges in Aquitania and Central Gaul. At the same time, we should send about three legions to retake Narbonensis and to legions to Latium to crush rebel rabble in there as well. We should also reinforce depleted legions at Cisalpine Gaul, Central Gaul and Aquitania.

Senator Gaius Draconius

OOC: I think we will need more time to discuss military orders. I suggest that Merula will lead forces attacking Narbonensis and I will lead two legions in order to crush the rebellion at Latium.

 

[Stuckenschmidt]

Early 252 B.C.​

Senate report:
The following Senators are elected to be the Officials for the years 252/251:

Consuls - Gaius Draconius and Lucius Aquila
Aedile - Tiberius Belisarius
Quaestor - Sextus Atilius Aelianus
Pontifex - Quintus Livius Varro
Censor - Lucius Tuccius

Games are held in Latium by Tiberius Belisarius and Umbria by Sextus Atilius Aelianus. The Happiness in both Provinces and the Prestige of the two Senators slightly increase.

Consul report:
Quintus Livius Varro informs the Senate, that a Legion is being recruited in Campania, that is ready for duty in late 252.

An Envoy was send to Greece in order to negotiate a Non-Aggression-Pact. Although he did his best, no agreement was reached.

Pontifex report:
Lucius Aquila visits some Provinces and manages to raise the Happiness in Bruttium, Narbonensis and Venetia by 5 each.

Due to the Gaul War the Happiness in all Provinces is reduced by 1.

Provinces with below-average Happiness are Bruttium, Campania, Etruria, Liguria, Lugdinensis, Venetia (49 each), Apulia (44), Umbria (32), Aquitania, Central Gaul (30 each), Narbonensis (24) and Latium (23).

Aedile report:
The construction of a port couldn`t be finished.

Quaestor report:
Despite the best efforts of Tiberius Belisarius, the tax revenues of the last six months are slightly worse than expected and sum up to 945 Denarii. The Treasury holds 3.870 Denarii.

[= 3.400 (last turn`s Treasury) - 25 (Envoy) - 100 (Recruitment) - 150 (Happiness) - 200 (Port) + 945 (Taxes)]

Censor report:
The Officials of the years 254/253 end their term with a popularity of +3 (Lucius Aquila), +1 (Quintus Livius Varro) and -1 (Tiberius Belisarius, Publius Annaeus).

Due to his successes in Gaul, the Popularity of Gnaeus Scipio Lentulus rises to +3. The Popularity of Sextus Atilius Aelianus remains +1.

Tribune report:
Tribune Decimus Curiatius ends the siege in Central Gaul, when Alesia surrenders to the besieging roman forces. The Province now belongs to the Roman Republic. The same goes for the Province of Aquitania, when Tribune Gnaeus Scipio Lentulus orders a final assault and takes the city by storm.

With a force consisting of 5 Legions Tribune Sextus Atilius Aelianus enters Belgica. Vercingetorix, having gathered a similar force for the final battle versus the Romans, takes on the fight. A fierce battle evolves. At the end of the day, about a third of all combatants are dead, but the battle itself ends in a draw.

Warscore Gaul War: 13

Spy report:
The Spy in Armorica is discovered and killed, when he tries to avoid capture.

Foreign affairs:
- Sanherib I., ruler of Cilicia, dies. His son, Sanherib II., cancels the trade agreement with the Greek Cities.

- Numidian War:
Carthage enters the Provinces of Gaetulia and Mauretania with large forces. The Numidian forces defending these Provinces suffer serious casualties and retreat to Sahara. The Carthage forces begin to siege the assaulted Provinces. Warscore: 6 (Carthage)


(Deadline is Tuesday, 4 PM GMT)

 

[Stuckenschmidt]

From: Antigonos II. Gonatas, King of Macedonia
To: The Senate of Rome


Senators of Rome,

I hereby request, that we renew our Defense Pact for another 4 years.

 

[Stuckenschmidt]

From: Lucius Tuccius; Censor
To: The Senate of Rome

Senators.

We all eagerly await news from Gaul and monitor the situation there. As we all know, Tribune Gnaeus Scipio Lentulus has done some brilliant coups showing strategic and tactical skill as well as persistence in pursuing his goals. In respect of his successes I propose to grant him a Triumph and call up the Senate to cast its vote.

Furthermore I propose to honor the former Pontifex Lucius Aquila for his commitment.

 

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I've already seen that this is going to be a few difficult years as consul.

I've made up an (ambitious) plan to deal with Gaul and the rebels in 1 year:

Send our spy to Armorica to find out where the forces of gaul are at. It not there there at Germania. (25 credits)

1) The rebellion in our capital province needs to be dealt with:
The legion from Venetia (3 cv) and the 1 from Cisalpine Gaul (1 cv ==> 2 cv) will deal with it. Under the leadership of Aulus Quinctius.
They don't need a good tribune because they will only be fighting rebels without true leadership.

2) The rebellious army forces should be dealt with harsly. No mercy!
The 2 legions (3cv and 2cv ==> 3cv) in Aquitania will under the command of Lentinius go to Narbonensis They will be reinforced with a legion form Central Gaul (2 cv)

3) The forces in Belgica stay there to seige the capital. The point of this is that we need to keep the Gauls on the defencive. It we pull back they can attack Aquitania and Lugdinensis that are not defended right now. 4 legions under Merula (3 cv, 3 cv, 2 cv and 1 cv ==>2 cv)

4) The 5th legion (1 cv) in Belgica is pulled back to cisalpine Gaul to be reinforced in the next few turns.

5) 2 legions stay in Central Gaul because its a important province, if we loose it the forces in Belgica are in trouble. (2 cv ==> 3cv and 2 cv)

This is a total of 4 reinforcements ( 3 x 25 + 35 = 105 credits)

Also I would order the building of another legion in Campania (49 happiness and a temple) (100 credits)

I believe that our Pontefix should concentrate this efforts on the following provinces Umbria, Aquitania, Central Gaul, Narbonensis and Latium. (125 credits)
I will be holding Games in Latium so that the people of rome don't join the Rebelion. (200 credits mine ofcourse )

Since we have a good Aedile again lets put him to work. He should put the port on hold untill the rebels are gone in Narbonensis.
Roads need to be build in Aquitania and Central Gaul (200 credits) Also a temple in bruttium (250 credits)
We will need bruttium to build more legions in the future. I don't believe we should order more buildings in 1 turn. Its better thet the Aedile has only a few projects that get all his attention then alot where he doensn't know what to do first.

Foreign affairs:
Let us renew the defence pact with Macedonia. I believe its the only thing thats holding Carthage back these days.

With the blessing of the senate i will hand it over personaly and then continiu my travels to Cilicia where i will offer my condolences to Sanherib II who has just lost his father and will try and get us a trade deal. (25 credits)

There is no need to send funds the the numibians i believe. They only have 1 province left and won't be able to build units with the money we would send.

This is for a total of 830 credits

Consul Aquila

 

[randakar]

*applauds*

An ambitious plan to be sure, but I support it.
As do I support the other plans regarding our foreign affairs - renewing our macedonian defense treaty. and the trade agreement with Cicilia.

I suggest we send an envoy to Egypt as soon as reasonably possible, to discuss matters regarding the Carthaginian threat. Point out that Carthage if left unchecked will be a threat to both our glorious nations. Our diplomatic efforts to discourage Carthage from invading Numidia have failed and Iberia is almost completely under the boot heal of Carthage. Once their conquest of Numidia has succeeded Carthage has only two reasonable options left for further expansion - Rome, and Egypt. A defense pact would ensure both our nations' safety.

-- Gnaeus Scipio Lentulus

 

[Finnish Dragon]

First, we will need a good commander at Belgica. This is the current situation in there:

5 Legions (CV 1,1,2,3,3) - Belgica - Tribune: Titus Nautius (Client of Sextus Atilius Aelianus; Mil 0)

Why the tribune at Belgica has 0 military skill? I would send Merula (Military skill 2) to command our forces there.

We should continue our defense pact with Macedonia.

Also, it seems to be when Carthage attacked Numidia she also violated NAP with Numidians. We cannot help Numidia but I think we should send an envoy to Transalpine Gaul to convince them to end their alliance with backstabbing Carthagineans.

Numidia (NAP with Carthage)
Gaetulia (230, 3, Y, Y) - Besieged by Carthage (Garrison: 4 CV)
Mauretania (130, 3, Y, Y) - Besieged by Carthage (Garrison: 4 CV)
Sahara (80, 3, Y, Y)

I believe that we should try to sign a defense pact with Egypt. I am certain that they are also concerned about Carthage which seems to be very ruthless expanding when expanding her borders.

Additional Orders:

Consul Aquila´s orders are good but I would add an envoy to Transalpine Gaul in order to convince them to abandon Carthage and to prive them that Carthage financed Gauls while she has NAP with us. The Transalpine Senate should realize that Carthage will be a burden to their nation if Carthage continues her reckless expansionism. (-25)

We should also send an envoy to Egypt to negotiate a defense pact between the Roman Republic and Egypt in order to contain those Carthagineans. We can tell Egyptians that in the future it would be probable that Carthage will make an alliance between Carthage and the Seleucids and they would attack Egypt from both sides. Egypt has enemies and she needs allies like Rome.(-25)

Consul Gaius Draconius

Personal order: Hire clients

 

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If your willing to go to Egypt i propose first improving relations (there at 0 atm) and only asking for an alliance when relations are at 2.

edit: Just tought about someting:

mercenaries: a high upkeep but no moral losses with the general population. This way rich nations (like Greece) would be able to field a bigger army then there less rich neighbours.

 

[reis91]

NPC countries have no happiness to care about, I recall our GM saying...

Before I vote on our Ex-Pontifex Maximus Lucius Aquila's triumph, I want to know what happened in Narbonensis, how could he pass through there, and not realize what was going on?

I will do as the Consul instructs me, although I would wish to see some more funds to devote to other provinces as well, when Roma's treasure is this big thanks to the management in the previous term.

Quintus Varro

 

[Stuckenschmidt]

Why the tribune at Belgica has 0 military skill? I would send Merula (Military skill 2) to command our forces there.

The problem was, that Sextus was elected to be Quaestor. And since someone has to command the Army, a NPC-Senator took charge. Obviously a stopgap solution.

 

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The problem was, that Sextus was elected to be Quaestor. And since someone has to command the Army, a NPC-Senator took charge. Obviously a stopgap solution.

You forgot to delete the Greek tradedeal with Cilicia on the first page.

 

[reis91]

I would perhaps move the forces in Central Gaul to Germania Superior, to prevent reinforcements from reaching Vercingetorix. The garrison in Central Gaul can handle itself for a couple of months. This would also ensure the Gauls could only escape to one province, where they would be trapped like rats.

 

[unmerged(47582)]

I would perhaps move the forces in Central Gaul to Germania Superior, to prevent reinforcements from reaching Vercingetorix. The garrison in Central Gaul can handle itself for a couple of months. This would also ensure the Gauls could only escape to one province, where they would be trapped like rats.

Not a good idea, The Gauls have 7 cv left (estimated).
We only have 5 cv in Central Gaul. And to make things worse no good leaders exept Merula (Belgica) and Lentulus (Narbonensis) both busy.

Have some suggestions for Lentulus:
After you destroy that legion in the field show no mercy to the soldiers. But if you start the seige offer the civilians deportation to newly conquered regions instead of death.
This could get the rebellion over faster

 

[GaiusC]

Patres conscripti,

I'm sorry I wasn't able to finish the job in Belgica. These Gauls sure are determined to resist our benevolent conquest.
Since I ran for Quaestor (I felt it was the thing to do, since no able Senator was candidate, while we had several top generals available to serve in Gaul), my second-in-command took over after I left, which is why he's listed in charge of the legions in the North.
I think 3 legions in Central Gaul is quite useless to pacify the recently conquered province. At least one legion should be sent as reinforcement in Belgica - Vercingetorix is likely to get reinforcements.
The good thing is that he's now pinned down there and it will be hard to move out with his badly-battered troops without being caught. It would be better if we had informants and spies in Gaul, but I doubt he'll try to take back Central Gaul after all the troops he lost there.
Still, sieging Belgica isn't realistic right now, with a sizable Gaul army next door. We first have to destroy it, and to seize the neighboring provinces to deprive them of any reinforement.
Concerning my replacement at the head of the Belgian legions, we could send Merula there. It would be a good occasion for him to redeem his good name as a general. He knows the Gauls, he's beaten some before. And we have now a decent knowledge of most of Gaul, and specifically of Belgica. I have lengthy reports here available for our future commanders, so that they won't fall into another silly ambush. Or, if the Consuls disagree, we can send Lentulus defeat Vercingetorix once and for all.

I agree with the road building in the 2 newly-annexed provinces.

Sadly, I see that my fears about Narbonensis were correct. Well, if people think that my treatment of the Dalmatian rebels was harsh, they should wait and see how Rome will treat the rebels in Narbo.

Concerning the Macedonian offer, it's a no-brainer. We have to renew it. What really puzzles me is that Antigonos didn't extend his conquests in the East (or North-East, if you're Macedonian).

We could send money to Numidia, but I doubt it'll help. Proposing peace negotiations will obviously be refused by Carthage. We could still do it, but I also hope Greece or Egypt does something - even a mere written disagreement -, since they tend to claim to be the good guys acting fairly (yeah, I bet the Seleucids would agree).
Still, proposing a defensive pact to Egypt would be good, or if they don't want such a commitment, at the very least thell them we'll gladly sign a non-aggression treaty, so that we both know that we won't have to fear each other when Carthage comes knocking at the door.

With that said, it's time for me to go back to the accoung books of the Republic. There's room for improvements in our taxation system.

Valete!

SEXTVS ATILIVS AELIANVS

 

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Still, sieging Belgica isn't realistic right now, with a sizable Gaul army next door. We first have to destroy it, and to seize the neighboring provinces to deprive them of any reinforement.
Concerning my replacement at the head of the Belgian legions, we could send Merula there. It would be a good occasion for him to redeem his good name as a general. He knows the Gauls, he's beaten some before. And we have now a decent knowledge of most of Gaul, and specifically of Belgica. I have lengthy reports here available for our future commanders, so that they won't fall into another silly ambush. Or, if the Consuls disagree, we can send Lentulus defeat Vercingetorix once and for all.

There are only 2 legions in Central Gaul, 1 is send to Narbonensis.
1 legion could be send to Belgica to help in (hopfully) the last big battle of the war.

Sadly, I see that my fears about Narbonensis were correct. Well, if people think that my treatment of the Dalmatian rebels was harsh, they should wait and see how Rome will treat the rebels in Narbo.

Lentunus has a free hand in this.

 

[reis91]

Any chance for a public sacrifice to Jupiter, to grant law to our provinces and civilization to the barbarians in Gaul?

 

[randakar]

Lentunus has a free hand in this.

Lentulus will apply the full force of Roman Law. With Lex Draconia enacted that will not be easy ..

 

[GaiusC]

There are only 2 legions in Central Gaul, 1 is send to Narbonensis.
1 legion could be send to Belgica to help in (hopfully) the last big battle of the war.

There are 3 legions, all at 2CV, in Central Gaul, from what I see on the updated first post. Either there's a mistake, or it's good for us

 

[Stuckenschmidt]

There are 3 legions, all at 2CV, in Central Gaul, from what I see on the updated first post. Either there's a mistake, or it's good for us

Rome has 12 Legions so far and a 13th coming next turn, so the roster in post No. 1 is (of course ) absolutely correct.

EDIT:

New rule. If the 13th Warrior of the 13th Legion finds the 5th Element beneath the 7th Seal using his 6th Sense on the 6th Day of the month after having read the 10 Commandments in a chamber 39 Steps below the earth with 12 Monkeys looking over his shoulder, it gets a +6 modifier on all dice rolls.

 

[reis91]

Ok, let's get to work on it so we can bring Carthage down

Now, where can we find the monkeys?