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Process of elimination. We have three lynches left. You are the best today.
VOTE HDK
I do not have much time today, so not much more from me. HDK is the best lynch in my opinion based on what I know.
The thing with the_hdk as a candidate is that he was voting torn - here:
That's on the day Torn got lynched, 22 minutes before the deadline.
hmn.
unvote EL
vote Tornadoli
i'd rather not lynch euro today yet
That's on the day Torn got lynched, 22 minutes before the deadline.
hmn.
not only that but I advocated the lynching of kaet on day one.....
the day she got lynched I was away...(playing M&B MP IIRC)
the day she got lynched I was away...(playing M&B MP IIRC)
One other thing to note here - Kaetje is a relatively weak wolf, Torn is getting better but definitely doesn't count as a vet just yet. So what we're looking for is one of the better players in the game.
With AOK looking cleared that means it can be only one of two people: the_hdk, and EUROO7. I don't see Adamus, Lemeard or punkbob fit that role very well. EUROO7 looks also *very* clean after his spat with Torn on day 2.
So logically it has to be the_hdk, but I don't feel like we have overwhelming evidence here. the_hdk's vote on Torn was pretty decisive.
With AOK looking cleared that means it can be only one of two people: the_hdk, and EUROO7. I don't see Adamus, Lemeard or punkbob fit that role very well. EUROO7 looks also *very* clean after his spat with Torn on day 2.
So logically it has to be the_hdk, but I don't feel like we have overwhelming evidence here. the_hdk's vote on Torn was pretty decisive.
well I was voting het.... also I pmed with AOK about magic (vote changes) and than turning back on kaet....
edit: why are punk and lemmy so suddenly clear?
Randy, if its not you or Adamus, then the wolf is responsible for one of the most brutal sellouts ever. Thats just where we are.
I have not known EURO to partake in such self destruction as purposefully getting a packmate killed. He is an agent of chaos, but is not so mad in my experience as to actually be the catalyst for his packmate's lynching when he had about a dozen opportunities to stop it without endangering himself. If EURO is a wolf here, then he is more insane than I imagined. Possible, sure.
I think HDK more likely. I have been in a pack with him before and he cast a similar vote against me as he did for Torn here. (Starcraft II.) I actually survived and went on to lynch him instead, but the point remains.
Finally, there is this:
That post during the first vote cycle was in response to a PM I got from HDK. He contacted me basically encouraging me to do a vote switch when Kae looked to be in danger. His words were something to the effect of "Lets do a switch. Maybe get some votes and then lynch Kae anyway".
I see that as trying to get me to move the votes and then covering himself if Kae is killed and revealed a wolf.
HDK is my best suspect today. Thats all I got time for. I will check in later.
Edit: Now he brings it up to defend himself. Not surprising. Lynch him.
I have not known EURO to partake in such self destruction as purposefully getting a packmate killed. He is an agent of chaos, but is not so mad in my experience as to actually be the catalyst for his packmate's lynching when he had about a dozen opportunities to stop it without endangering himself. If EURO is a wolf here, then he is more insane than I imagined. Possible, sure.
I think HDK more likely. I have been in a pack with him before and he cast a similar vote against me as he did for Torn here. (Starcraft II.) I actually survived and went on to lynch him instead, but the point remains.
Finally, there is this:
That post during the first vote cycle was in response to a PM I got from HDK. He contacted me basically encouraging me to do a vote switch when Kae looked to be in danger. His words were something to the effect of "Lets do a switch. Maybe get some votes and then lynch Kae anyway".
I see that as trying to get me to move the votes and then covering himself if Kae is killed and revealed a wolf.
HDK is my best suspect today. Thats all I got time for. I will check in later.
Edit: Now he brings it up to defend himself. Not surprising. Lynch him.
haha I knew that would bite me the moment kaet was revealed a wolf I should have never pmed you....
lesson learned never pm people in lite when your a villager...
I should have never pmed you....lesson learned never pm people in lite when your a villager...
I see. I can't say I am very convinced that you are right, but maybe .. I didn't have that bit of the story.
edit: If there was a sellout of course it might have been you, too.
I've been rereading day 1 - here's how far I've gotten so far:
vote katje
3rd voter thingy!
the_hdk, me and adamus on a bandwagon swing on Kaetje. 7 hours to deadline though ..
So here we are, kaetje in the danger zone. But there is still a lot of time until the deadline.
So AOK is the one who gets Kaetje and himself out of that particular situation. However, it doesn't happen right away:
That vote put EURO into the tie, in case you lost count. Context matters though - there was a good chance at that point that the Mr. G vote swing would have gotten traction.
So here is that Tie, in all it's Tie-full glory:
We have EURO voting AOK, Torn voting EURO, and the_hdk and Adamus are both voting Kaetje.
Right after that we have the exchange AOK was referring to:
A bit later -
Uhm, no switches from EURO, eh?
All things being equal I preferred Kaetje over AOK. Not because of any in game reason - I just prefer not to lynch my girlfriend without good reason. ;-)
One of the reasons I doubt EURO is our wolf - Torn keeping his vote right on him at this point.
Adamus still isn't looking very cleared, IMHO.
.. but at some point I started calling for a swing to Adamus:
Still not sure if that means much. On the one hand, there was plenty of time for follow-through on the Adamus swing. On the other ..
A bit later -
Right. With 4.5 hours left to deadline and my having to leave and never come back (before the day is over), I command you to lynch one of the following:
Mr. G for blatant stupidity
Reis for blatant metagaming
Go crazy. Also, I am the seer and I scanned them both. Hunt me tonight, wolves, I dare you, no I double-dare you!
Uhm, no switches from EURO, eh?
All things being equal I preferred Kaetje over AOK. Not because of any in game reason - I just prefer not to lynch my girlfriend without good reason. ;-)
One of the reasons I doubt EURO is our wolf - Torn keeping his vote right on him at this point.
Adamus still isn't looking very cleared, IMHO.
.. but at some point I started calling for a swing to Adamus:
Still not sure if that means much. On the one hand, there was plenty of time for follow-through on the Adamus swing. On the other ..
Day 2. There's not much to say here that hasn't been said before.
Kaetje votes early, and never moves.
That's one gigantic bandwagon on AOK. 11 there. With two wolves on it, too.
Either AOK is clean, or he has been telling his packmates to vote him.
Adamus adds a little more. This vote is suspicious to me - it's one hell of a bandwagon vote.
hdk notices.
But then the Euro-Torn spat starts up:
and later:
When this bandwagon gets traction, a little retaliation vote comes in from Torn:
And then the vote that makes me doubt the_hdk as a wolf suspect:
That puts torn in the lead:
Resulting in:
I don't know. Euro still looks like a bad suspect to me. Adamus, however .. he only has three things going for him:
1) Putting him that wolf pack makes it look sorta weak. Then again, Mr. G was the seer ..
2) Torn jumping on the bandwagon I started. From a wolf perspective however that was a pretty likely sellout - the last times I used red and huge fonts I was a scanned villager attempting to get a wolf lynched.. maybe Torn believed I was doing that again.
3) Adamus apparently not knowing how many wolves there are left. Since I am sorta discounting 1 and 2, nr. 3 is the only reason why I didn't vote him right off the bat..
I distrust the sudden following of me yesterday. AOK.11 being the sheep not the shepherd?
Vote AOK.11
Kaetje votes early, and never moves.
That's one gigantic bandwagon on AOK. 11 there. With two wolves on it, too.
Either AOK is clean, or he has been telling his packmates to vote him.
Adamus adds a little more. This vote is suspicious to me - it's one hell of a bandwagon vote.
ìndeed i'd rather we do not bandwagon AOK on day 2
hdk notices.
But then the Euro-Torn spat starts up:
and later:
When this bandwagon gets traction, a little retaliation vote comes in from Torn:
And then the vote that makes me doubt the_hdk as a wolf suspect:
unvote EL
vote Tornadoli
i'd rather not lynch euro today yet
That puts torn in the lead:
Resulting in:
I don't know. Euro still looks like a bad suspect to me. Adamus, however .. he only has three things going for him:
1) Putting him that wolf pack makes it look sorta weak. Then again, Mr. G was the seer ..
2) Torn jumping on the bandwagon I started. From a wolf perspective however that was a pretty likely sellout - the last times I used red and huge fonts I was a scanned villager attempting to get a wolf lynched.. maybe Torn believed I was doing that again.
3) Adamus apparently not knowing how many wolves there are left. Since I am sorta discounting 1 and 2, nr. 3 is the only reason why I didn't vote him right off the bat..
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I like this one better!
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but this one would be more accurate (especially the title)
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I should have given up yesterday, and let jonti have a win.
Hell I can still try it, I might go and live for 2 more days. and I might have gotten away with it but I doubt it, 2 reasons.
there are too many people wanting to getting me lynched already (especially fanatics like EURO who I couldnt hunt as I needed to hunt AOK first and than Lem) Im not sure punk was scanned I though Kaet got scanned.
and 2 the will nor time, I'll be away the whole saturday and sunday.
so my famous last words are:
My Bad and Sorry Jonti
Brutal sellout of Torn. Absolutely brutal.....
I could not have done it better myself. Well done on that and very convincing.
I thought EL was the sellout but it was you. Anyway, good game. I really sucked, but it was fun anyway even though I did not have much time to play.
I could not have done it better myself. Well done on that and very convincing.
I thought EL was the sellout but it was you. Anyway, good game. I really sucked, but it was fun anyway even though I did not have much time to play.
I made a crucial mistake of mentioning the pm before you did...
also sorry to you too Torn, but it was crucial and I would expect the same from my teammates if I was up in the running. (doesn't mean you have to bandwagon me the next time)
still if Kaet lived longer (I should have been online I might have saved her) this might have worked.
my top suspects for seer ware mrg, randy, rysz and IIRC Lem. I also considered AOK but that was a small chance, in the end it was between randy and jonti 2.0 and the moment the village turned on randy I reread teh thread and saw the post about the subbing, thats when I was almost sure about the seer.
also sorry to you too Torn, but it was crucial and I would expect the same from my teammates if I was up in the running. (doesn't mean you have to bandwagon me the next time
) still if Kaet lived longer (I should have been online I might have saved her) this might have worked.
my top suspects for seer ware mrg, randy, rysz and IIRC Lem. I also considered AOK but that was a small chance, in the end it was between randy and jonti 2.0 and the moment the village turned on randy I reread teh thread and saw the post about the subbing, thats when I was almost sure about the seer.