well, poop!
I was running late this morning and didn't do what I wanted to do.....
and came home late for lunch, to boot!
I was running late this morning and didn't do what I wanted to do.....
and came home late for lunch, to boot!
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Well that kinda clears Rysz.
So who to vote today? Will ponder that tomorrow. I need some sleep now.
So who to vote today? Will ponder that tomorrow. I need some sleep now.
Excellent, one wolf left and the seer still alive. There should be no reason why we should lose this now.
Haven't finished my analysis yet, but these are the people we should definitely not lynch. Anyone else is fair game, I admit my voting isn't exactly stellar.
I think we can definitely clear velasco, beyond reasonable doubt. Has made decisive votes on both wolves, moreover, identified Walrus as Adamus' packmate very quickly. Well done.
Tornadoli is almost certainly not a wolf as his previous incarnation, EUROO7 lead that fake JL charge against Adamus
the_hdk was bandwagoned by both Walrus and the_hdk on day one, Adamus' vote is particularly clearing IMO.
Rysz, receieved an early vote from Adamus day 1 and bandwagoned by Walrus both days; crucial vote for the Walrus - very unlikely.
Which leaves us with five suspects I believe (including me), the JL hopefully can narrow that even further.
Haven't finished my analysis yet, but these are the people we should definitely not lynch. Anyone else is fair game, I admit my voting isn't exactly stellar.
I think we can definitely clear velasco, beyond reasonable doubt. Has made decisive votes on both wolves, moreover, identified Walrus as Adamus' packmate very quickly. Well done.
Tornadoli is almost certainly not a wolf as his previous incarnation, EUROO7 lead that fake JL charge against Adamus
the_hdk was bandwagoned by both Walrus and the_hdk on day one, Adamus' vote is particularly clearing IMO.
Rysz, receieved an early vote from Adamus day 1 and bandwagoned by Walrus both days; crucial vote for the Walrus - very unlikely.
Which leaves us with five suspects I believe (including me), the JL hopefully can narrow that even further.
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Basic miscalculation, there are four suspects left (including me):
randakar; jonti-h; marty99; Kaetje
The circumstantial evidence is strongest on jonti-h, he has made votes in favour of both wolves. Of course, he will inevitably say he wouldn't do that as a wolf, and he's probably right, but we can't discount the evidence on that alone. After that it's a toss-up between the remaining three. None of us have voted for a wolf, but have not really made a vote that could be seen as 'saving' one either.
I feel myself gravitating towards jonti-h, But there's not much in it. Nevertheless...
Vote jonti-h
randakar; jonti-h; marty99; Kaetje
The circumstantial evidence is strongest on jonti-h, he has made votes in favour of both wolves. Of course, he will inevitably say he wouldn't do that as a wolf, and he's probably right, but we can't discount the evidence on that alone. After that it's a toss-up between the remaining three. None of us have voted for a wolf, but have not really made a vote that could be seen as 'saving' one either.
I feel myself gravitating towards jonti-h, But there's not much in it. Nevertheless...
Vote jonti-h
Assuming this analysis is correct - and it does look that way, seeing how wolf you would probably say the same thing as villager you - I am left with a toss up.
Kaetje swears up and down that it isn't her and going by our prior conversation on the subject she is either more cunning than I thought or not a wolf.
I know I am not a wolf and would probably surrender somewhere around now if I were.
So the choice is you, and honey. (gotta love swype sometimes - that's jonti..)
I will sleep on this.
And if I were a wolf either I'd have broken the TIE to save Walrus, or I'd have broken it to kill Walrus. It's not me, I'd not be uncareful enough to get that bad a voting record were I a wolf, and that's something that can be borne out by years of evidence.
You're right that none of us 4 have voted a wolf - but, I think there is something that can show a wolf somewhere. When I'm not knackered and slightly pissed off I'll have a look through the game and post my thoughts.
Can we have the first post updated please?
Seer? Are you out there, somewhere?
My chief suspects at this point:
Tornadoli (formerly Euro): I wouldn't say Euro's fake JL against Adamus clears him definitely - couldn't it be some kind of coup? as Adamus said "anyone voting me should be treated with maximum suspicion" - which at that point was Euro, myself and EternalyLost. As Eternaly noted, one way of Euro knowing Adamus was a wolf would be for he himself to be a wolf; Euro asked to be subbed immediately after that. Torn then proceeded to cast a decisive death vote for Trespoe (villager) whilst wolfie Walrus switched to Punkbob (also villager) to make it a three way tie - having become impossible to save Walrus, between them they managed to take out an extra two villagers plus the hunted.
Randakar - made an initial vote on wolfie Walrus then switched to Trespoe (villager) citing his dislike of bandwagons. Tactical attempt to deflect attention from himself whilst weakening village? Hmm. He was followed by:
Jonti-H - also citing his dislike of bandwagoning and voting on hdk, almost undoubtedly a villager also.
Marty99 - I find the whole "ohai I had forgots bout this game" iffy...could be true, ofc, but could also be a tactic to kinda slip in unnoticed, joining Randakar in voting Trespoe (villager).
I found this post rather interesting:
Not sure if its what you guys would call a slip, but, knowing in hindsight that Walrus was a wolf and voted alongside Jonti and Adamus (wolf #1) to rid themselves of hdk in order to spare Adamus, he basically revealed in this post what the wolves discussed: ie, let's vote either hdk or Velasco and try to save Adamus (eventually settling on hdk). From that I'd extract that hdk is almost 100% a villager and Jonti is either an unknowing accomplice or third pack member.
That said, I'm going to Vote Tornadoli. I find both his and previously Euro's actions somewhat dodgy and suspicious and there is no way to know for sure (especially regards what was Euro playing at by putting Adamus forward? was it really just a careless thing or a joke?) until he is done away with.
Unless a would-be Seer manifests himself, I'll stick with Torn.
My chief suspects at this point:
Tornadoli (formerly Euro): I wouldn't say Euro's fake JL against Adamus clears him definitely - couldn't it be some kind of coup? as Adamus said "anyone voting me should be treated with maximum suspicion" - which at that point was Euro, myself and EternalyLost. As Eternaly noted, one way of Euro knowing Adamus was a wolf would be for he himself to be a wolf; Euro asked to be subbed immediately after that. Torn then proceeded to cast a decisive death vote for Trespoe (villager) whilst wolfie Walrus switched to Punkbob (also villager) to make it a three way tie - having become impossible to save Walrus, between them they managed to take out an extra two villagers plus the hunted.
Randakar - made an initial vote on wolfie Walrus then switched to Trespoe (villager) citing his dislike of bandwagons. Tactical attempt to deflect attention from himself whilst weakening village? Hmm. He was followed by:
Jonti-H - also citing his dislike of bandwagoning and voting on hdk, almost undoubtedly a villager also.
Marty99 - I find the whole "ohai I had forgots bout this game" iffy...could be true, ofc, but could also be a tactic to kinda slip in unnoticed, joining Randakar in voting Trespoe (villager).
I found this post rather interesting:
Not sure if its what you guys would call a slip, but, knowing in hindsight that Walrus was a wolf and voted alongside Jonti and Adamus (wolf #1) to rid themselves of hdk in order to spare Adamus, he basically revealed in this post what the wolves discussed: ie, let's vote either hdk or Velasco and try to save Adamus (eventually settling on hdk). From that I'd extract that hdk is almost 100% a villager and Jonti is either an unknowing accomplice or third pack member.
That said, I'm going to Vote Tornadoli. I find both his and previously Euro's actions somewhat dodgy and suspicious and there is no way to know for sure (especially regards what was Euro playing at by putting Adamus forward? was it really just a careless thing or a joke?) until he is done away with.
Unless a would-be Seer manifests himself, I'll stick with Torn.
There's some very good points here, and in honesty the seer has to be around somewhere (it's why I asked for the 1st post to be updated - didn't want to call for the JL if the seer had died) and surely must have some form of JL to help us out here.
Will go through the game in more detail when i can get away with it
I'm a bit surprised by the calls for the JL? Despite everything that has happened so far, it's still been only the 2nd night! Usually we won't hear from the JL until after the 3rd night or something.
Are we that spoiled, that the village can't find the last wolf by itself, without needing a JL to get us on the way? We did manage to lynch two wolves in two nights so far, so it doesn't really look like we need a JL.
Good, some people already made some good arguments to which I can't really add something brilliantly insightfull. To me, there is not much difference in the four suspects so far.
However, both Randakar and Kaetje are a bit less suspect, because I don't expect them to have a discussion at home about WW, if any of them were a wolf. (discussion being 2-way... )
I think marty to be most likely, also for first lying low and then coming to action when the other wolves are dead.
Vote Marty99
Are we that spoiled, that the village can't find the last wolf by itself, without needing a JL to get us on the way? We did manage to lynch two wolves in two nights so far, so it doesn't really look like we need a JL.
Good, some people already made some good arguments to which I can't really add something brilliantly insightfull. To me, there is not much difference in the four suspects so far.
However, both Randakar and Kaetje are a bit less suspect, because I don't expect them to have a discussion at home about WW, if any of them were a wolf. (discussion being 2-way... )
I think marty to be most likely, also for first lying low and then coming to action when the other wolves are dead.
Vote Marty99
Okey dokey people listen up!
I've been contacted by someone who claims to have SCANNED MARTY99 AS A WOLF!!
Vote Marty99!!
I've been contacted by someone who claims to have SCANNED MARTY99 AS A WOLF!!
Vote Marty99!!
I'll unvote Tornadoli and vote Marty99 in accordance with Jonti's contact and his own suspicious behaviour.
Votecount : 26 mins to Examination #3
Marty99 : Rysz, jonti-h, the_hdk, velasco, randakar, kaetje, everyone else and their mothers (6)
Jonti-h : Marty99 (1)
Marty99 : Rysz, jonti-h, the_hdk, velasco, randakar, kaetje, everyone else and their mothers (6)
Jonti-h : Marty99 (1)