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wow....

Either Reis is a wolf (being saved twice at the deadline like that from a certain lynch) or he is being set up by the wolves as a fall guy.

Marty does make a good point about who would be in his pack, however. I will need to look at this further.
 
all right. Assuming that wolvies don't put other furries into danger, it would leave only Walrus, Slinky, Velasco, and myself as Reis's packmates. Would not say he is cleared, but there are better prospects.

Let us turn our attention to Day 1. He wasn't the only one in danger there. Jonti was right behind Reis in votes, in fact tied at one time with 3 votes. In fact, when hdk switched off Reis to Sedracus, jonti was tied with Reis. Then Marty pushed Reis ahead again. (vote 99) Marty however made the odd vote to Sedracus and asked if anyone else was going to switch. Reis did in fact do so then Adamus switched from Reis to Sedracus, preventing anyone from vote-sniping.

interesting events, let us follow jonti, marty, and Adamus into day 2. jonti votes Punky, marty votes Adamus, and Adamus votes Reis. suddenly Lemeard votes Punky and Slinky follows to make a tie between Reis and Punkbob. Reis switches votes to Punkbob to prevent his death in a tie only 6 minutes before deadline. interesting that everyone was going to let it stay that way, which it looked like Marty and Randakar were online.

also interesting, jonti usually talks and pushes in Lite. He claims that he doesn't do it in bigs is because it too confusing in the big leagues and he stays vocal in the Lites. Yet.... he seems too quiet this game.

Vote jonti

if he is a wolf, look at the other names I mentioned. Randakar, Marty, Adamus, Slinky. Boris wouldn't be a bad choice either, but jonti's save plus the oddities of yesterday's late voting would seem to indicate the others.

Jonti, now is the time for you to come alive if you are a villager. Use yer skilz.
 
trespoe said:
all right. Assuming that wolvies don't put other furries into danger, it would leave only Walrus, Slinky, Velasco, and myself as Reis's packmates. Would not say he is cleared, but there are better prospects.

Let us turn our attention to Day 1. He wasn't the only one in danger there. Jonti was right behind Reis in votes, in fact tied at one time with 3 votes. In fact, when hdk switched off Reis to Sedracus, jonti was tied with Reis. Then Marty pushed Reis ahead again. (vote 99) Marty however made the odd vote to Sedracus and asked if anyone else was going to switch. Reis did in fact do so then Adamus switched from Reis to Sedracus, preventing anyone from vote-sniping.

interesting events, let us follow jonti, marty, and Adamus into day 2. jonti votes Punky, marty votes Adamus, and Adamus votes Reis. suddenly Lemeard votes Punky and Slinky follows to make a tie between Reis and Punkbob. Reis switches votes to Punkbob to prevent his death in a tie only 6 minutes before deadline. interesting that everyone was going to let it stay that way, which it looked like Marty and Randakar were online.

also interesting, jonti usually talks and pushes in Lite. He claims that he doesn't do it in bigs is because it too confusing in the big leagues and he stays vocal in the Lites. Yet.... he seems too quiet this game.

Vote jonti

if he is a wolf, look at the other names I mentioned. Randakar, Marty, Adamus, Slinky. Boris wouldn't be a bad choice either, but jonti's save plus the oddities of yesterday's late voting would seem to indicate the others.

Jonti, now is the time for you to come alive if you are a villager. Use yer skilz.
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Jonti's been busy. I will however have a look through the thread today and see what I can come up with. My skillz usually require a wolf to die first, but we'll see what I can come up with.
 
Vote Adamus of the six players dead, half of them have either been voted by for or have voted Amadus.
 
Velasco said:
I'll make a placeholder vote for WALRUS, for not voting and usually being active. Idk, a bit suspicious (and yes I realise how rich that is coming from me right now :rofl:)
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Yet it is a perfectly fine reason.

Vote walrus
 
trespoe said:
Either Reis is a wolf (being saved twice at the deadline like that from a certain lynch) or he is being set up by the wolves as a fall guy.
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In either case we should take a good look at the people involved in saving him, don't we?


trespoe said:
Reis switches votes to Punkbob to prevent his death in a tie only 6 minutes before deadline. interesting that everyone was going to let it stay that way, which it looked like Marty and Randakar were online.
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There wasn't much I could do. Changing my vote at that stage might have gotten two people lynched rather than just punkbob.

Adamus said:
Kill reis - if wolf kill all who have looked to save him both times
Kill reis - if villager... Well then we have nothing
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That would mean the third time he would get run up. Voting him now would just make him an even less likely wolf, I think. Marty does have a point, a lot of people have put dangerous votes on him.

trespoe said:
also interesting, jonti usually talks and pushes in Lite. He claims that he doesn't do it in bigs is because it too confusing in the big leagues and he stays vocal in the Lites. Yet.... he seems too quiet this game.
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I'm not sure that means much. Jonti takes much pride in how difficult it is for him to get pinpointed on behaviour like that.
Then again, we don't have much else in terms of candidates. There is a case against Adamus that makes sense, but right now I think I'd rather make this vote closer.

Vote jonti-h
 
randakar said:
There wasn't much I could do. Changing my vote at that stage might have gotten two people lynched rather than just punkbob.
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you mis-understand (or I wasn't being clear)

the tie was going to stand until Reis switched his vote 6 minutes to deadline. You would have helped make the tie.
 
trespoe said:
you mis-understand (or I wasn't being clear)

the tie was going to stand until Reis switched his vote 6 minutes to deadline. You would have helped make the tie.
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Ah, right. Why would I have done that, though? Being so obviously around and then letting a three way tie happen surely is a ticket to the gallows.
The only reason I wasn't switching before reis did was because reis in my book was a decent suspect. Still is, to be honest.
 
Bloody Dutch, never let go...

vote Adamus

Let jonti-h speak in his defense first. We want to be very careful with the voting now. Do not let "bogus candidates" get lynched like punkbob, without having anything on him. That is why voting walrus is not a really good idea when there are better suspects, Velasco and EL. The wolves could shift off the votes of their wolves more easily, and go Stalingrad.

So, I say again, please do not make useless votes. Think a bit first, read the thread, and then vote. Keeping in mind the above also, denying a quick switch for the wolves to save his run-up packmate.
 
Basically, my defence is that I'm not a wolf. I have been useless in this game, and if I am lynched for it so be it. However, look then at the people who pushed for my lynch - trespoe is a good candidate, since anyone who can spout that much crap is either a wolf or a politician.

If I live, I will attempt to sort something out tomorrow (today I had to take a friend to hospital so WW took a bit of a back seat) but I can promise nothing I'm afraid.

For now, gief count
Oh, and Vote Adamus who has been often mentioned, but not investigated properly.

Oh, and before someone says I'm not angry enough, I've had a glass of wine and a nice meal and can't manage anger right now :)
 
Adamus - 4; Boris ze Spider, marty99, reis91, jonti-h
jonti-h - 2; Trespoe, randakar
Walrus -2; Velasco, Eternaly_Lost

Two good candidates, and one seemingly random one, up for lynching. Interesting so far.

EDIT: Velasco's vote for Walrus will almost certainly not be counted. Still, the intent of the vote should be recorded, at least.
 
I can agree with the lyncing of Adamus (more than jonti or walrus), since he was involved in redirecting the lynch away from reis.
In a RL life game of WW, I would again vote reis, because to me, he still is suspicious, and because he has been saved twice now, and there is still nothing to prove his innocence. But apparently things work different here.

Vote Adamus
 
Rysz said:
I can agree with the lyncing of Adamus (more than jonti or walrus), since he was involved in redirecting the lynch away from reis.
In a RL life game of WW, I would again vote reis, because to me, he still is suspicious, and because he has been saved twice now, and there is still nothing to prove his innocence. But apparently things work different here.
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Do they?

The reason why we want to avoid running the same person up again and again is simply because it tends to blind people to the other players in the game. However, Ironhead 5's argument for not ignoring your suspicions really shouldn't be entirely ignored, I think. I've noticed myself getting manipulated by crafty players (marty in particular) way too often. Right now there is a fairly big wagon on adamus.

Are all of those people -really- villagers?
 
marty99 said:
OOC/ I think it's against the rules to have quote tags in your signature. Not sure though.
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Took a look at the rules again, and you are right there. Surprised me, as you can set it so it refuses quotes when you don't want to allow them. I have to go change it then.
 
Votecount: 44 minutes until the deadline


Adamus (5) - Boris ze spider, marty99, reis91, jonti-h, Rysz
jonti-h (2) - trespoe, randakar
walrus (1) - Eternaly_Lost

Not voted: Velasco, Adamus, walrus, Slinky

Leader(s) are/is underlined.

 
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Guys guy.. We're all nrl friends... Why me and not marty99 who has been intrumental in both innocent deaths. And why is reis not being lynched he has been runup before and guess what saved everytime. Get the peopke who had saved him both times when it was crucial.
 
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