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The problem with AOK apparently, is that he got a lot of people pissed off.

It could very well be a revenge vote from The_HDK for being killed first, Sedracus for being killed second, Randy or Trespoe for the fake JL outing from last game. Just saying.

UNVOTE KEHAAR

VOTE The_HDK

I do not metagame. (or at least I havn't done so in a very long time (more than a year) and I want to keep it that way)
 
Vote: Lurken

Emperors have no business dealing with spiritual matters!
 
Let it be noted I have no need for any sort of revenge against AOK. We didn't act against each other in game, we just had a somewhat stiff debriefing. I was looking forward to the rhetorical rivalry, and thus I am unpleased he fell too early and too young.

I am not familiar with his past record in this game that have brought animosity against him, thus I will do with what I'm given. I have to make a vote so I'll try and use some logic in it, even though I know the chances to actually catch a baddie are slim.

I have to make my choice between you or Trespoe. I'm still ensure. i might change.
 
Vote: Lurken

Emperors have no business dealing with spiritual matters!

You are mistaken, I am the GOD-EMPEROR!

482px-God-Emperor.jpg
 
Really? That I didn't know...I just happened to be online and I knee-jerked out my initial response. WW really changed since the 30-ish games.

My second big game I got lynched for cheering that we finally killed a wolf. I was a villager and oblivious to these "baddie tells". It was like day 5 or something and things were starting to look ridiculously bad. So I say "FINALLY! Something to use for analysis!" or something like that.

Immediately I got bandwagoned, and nobody even bothered to check the people who were responsible for the bandwagon. They simply said "he deserved it for such an obvious baddie tell".

That was years ago and I'm pretty sure you were in that game (you might have died before it happened)... I'll have to go back and check...

(I don't like it as a "baddie tell", it's not solid analysis and it seems to catch people who are unaware of it rather than any actual baddies).

But yeah, it's been around as a classic baddie tell for ages.

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randakar said:
The problem with Boris is - he -always- plays like this. However - he hasn't been a wolf yet, and there has to be a point where him acting wolfish is actually because he is a wolf. Besides, at the very least something needs to be done about this kind of mindless bandwagoning behaviour.

That is annoying.

Seriously, vote on a bandwagon before anyone else has gotten a vote? And immediately being reactionary against anyone who votes him? It's not like I have much to go on on day 1. It's likely he really is a villager being needlessly suspicious. Such is life. For now, my vote remains.

Jackpot15 said:
Maybe I do not wish to give up my reasons.

And the runner up, for "needlessly acts suspicious" goes to! :p

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Adamus said:
feeling guilty about something? I made that argument to see what your reaction to it was, to see if you did have a hand in aok's death.... Didnt really get much info from it other than a speech about meta gaming. Shame.

What else can I say? While I wouldn't want AOK dead, I'm also aware of how it would "obviously not be joeb". Keep that in mind.

And keep that in mind for other people too.
 
That is annoying.

Why is that?


Seriously, vote on a bandwagon before anyone else has gotten a vote? And immediately being reactionary against anyone who votes him?

Are you talking about me now, or about Boris?


It's not like I have much to go on on day 1. It's likely he really is a villager being needlessly suspicious. Such is life.

I'd like a count. When I wrote that bit of that (long) post I wasn't fully caught up yet, and Boris seems to be getting a lot of votes.


For now, my vote remains.

Who are you voting again?


And the runner up, for "needlessly acts suspicious" goes to! :p

He looks like a decent suspect, doesn't he?
I wouldn't want to lynch someone new this early, but it -is- tempting.
 
I'd like a count. When I wrote that bit of that (long) post I wasn't fully caught up yet, and Boris seems to be getting a lot of votes.

magenta = no longer voting for this person

Boris ze Spider:3 (joebthegreat, Jackpot15, randakar)
Lurken: 3 (the_hdk, Eternaly_Lost, Jolt)
Adamus: 2 (J. Passepartout, jacob-Lundgren, Boris ze Spider)
Rysz: 1 (jacob-Lundgren)
randakar: 1 (Sedracus)
walrus: 1 (Lurken)
drxav: 1 (Orange Yoshi)
Orange Yoshi: 1 (walrus)
Sedracus: 1 (Ciryandor)
jonti-h: 1 (k-59)
the_hdk: 1 (drxav)
Kehaar: 0 (drxav)

Feel free to give me the smack down if this is wrong somewhere...
 
hm, that looks a lot closer than I thought it would look.
Why are people voting Lurken? The case laid out by the_hdk was inane, EL following up looks even less logical, and I didn't even notice Jolt's vote.
(edit: It's not that far away. And the reason? Inane ..)

I have a strong feeling that Lurken is a goodie. Especially after the conversations I had with him by PM yesterday. Don't vote him.


edit: Let me show the PM's, since this should have been public anyway.

Lurken said:
Lurken said:
randakar said:
Lurken said:
randakar said:
Heya Lurken. :)

Lurken said:
I will be going out on a limb here.

I know that there are at least two packs, the Infidels and the Schismatics.

That would fit the religions theme quite nicely.


Lurken said:
I also know who were members of those packs, I am not sure if they are still baddies. I cannot know.

Wait, you knew who were members of -both- packs? Were you the PM mistake Reis made?
I doubt the GM would so silly as to keep the packs largely the same in terms of composition.
How many people did he put in those packs?


Lurken said:
That is the information I can say, for the moment.

What is stopping you from saying this in the thread? Don't want to stand out?
I can convey this information to the thread for you if you want.


Aye, I were a member of two packs. Both of them had 3 wolves and 1 cultist.

And I PMed you mostly because you asked for information. Which I had.

I would have been fine with you just telling people that publicly. ;-)
Do you know what the hunting pattern was?

No. Both packs were told to have a valid hunting order for all days. So that is a total unknown.

All right, I'll spill the beans later today. Might aswell.

Just in case something bad happens to me.

This data may no longer be accurate, but it is data.

Schismatics
Lurken : Wolf
drxav : Guardian Angel Wolf
J. Passepartout : Wolf
Paendrag : Cultist


Infidels
Walrus : Wolf
Lord Strange : Wolf
k-59 : Hunter Wolf
Lurken : Cultist

That was the roles I recieved from GM. The only notable discrepency is J.Pass. His claim of GA wolf is a bit wonky when compared to this data. However, it could have been one more mix-up.
 
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Well...the cats out of the box now =P

And yes, I revisited HDKs vote against me and ELs...darn they were shady reasons.
 
You are mistaken, I am the GOD-EMPEROR!

That unfortunately is a reference back to me... I guess.

Unvote Cardinal Ximenez
Vote the poor soul who is left no choice but to join


Let us give him Eternally_Lost errr I mean Eternal Rest
 

I really should have made a rule stating that people who claim godhood would be smited with a bolt of lightning. But God can be merciful, I suppose.


Though in WH40K, the God-Emperor is yet a god. A very very powerful A++++ psyker, yes, but not a god...yet.
 
hm, that looks a lot closer than I thought it would look.
Why are people voting Lurken? The case laid out by the_hdk was inane, EL following up looks even less logical, and I didn't even notice Jolt's vote.
(edit: It's not that far away. And the reason? Inane ..)

I have a strong feeling that Lurken is a goodie. Especially after the conversations I had with him by PM yesterday. Don't vote him.
It's day 1, what kind of reasons for votes do you expect?

If the setup is the same as round 1 of role distribution we are looking at 50% baddies and they will only be interested in lynching someone from not their pack so lot of people have no reason to put a lot of effort into finding baddies. OTOH odds are fairly good any random dude we pick for lynch is a baddie.

If you think Lurken is a goodie then I'll vote whoever he votes (is that a good enough reason for a vote for ya?)

vote walrus
 
It's day 1, what kind of reasons for votes do you expect?

Not great ones, but a bandwagon made entirely out of horse poo reasons? Tsk.

If the setup is the same as round 1 of role distribution we are looking at 50% baddies and they will only be interested in lynching someone from not their pack so lot of people have no reason to put a lot of effort into finding baddies. OTOH odds are fairly good any random dude we pick for lynch is a baddie.

True. This is also why I am wondering if we should aim for a tie.

If you think Lurken is a goodie then I'll vote whoever he votes (is that a good enough reason for a vote for ya?)

vote walrus

That's better than no reason at all :p
And yeah, I believe him to be a goodie based on behaviour. I may very well be wrong, but that is enough reason for me to ask people to put their votes elsewhere.

Joeb may also have a point about boris, btw, so let's see what your walrus vote does.

Unvote Boris
Vote Walrus
 
Vote EUROO7

because I got a headache and couldn't access the forums from work and I assume EUROO7 is the cause for both.
 
4 packs...

In two of them we know they were told to have valid hunting orders for every day...

How often have you guys played around with random number generated nightly hunts?

All 4 packs have a hunt order... 25% chance says pack 1 hunts that night, 25% chance says pack 2 hunts that night, 25% chance says pack 3 hunts that night, 25% chance says pack 4 hunts that night. Or any other variation on this.

Have any GMs besides EURO ever played with something like this?
 
True. This is also why I am wondering if we should aim for a tie.
Yeeees, I've been thinking about that too...

4 packs...

In two of them we know they were told to have valid hunting orders for every day...

How often have you guys played around with random number generated nightly hunts?

All 4 packs have a hunt order... 25% chance says pack 1 hunts that night, 25% chance says pack 2 hunts that night, 25% chance says pack 3 hunts that night, 25% chance says pack 4 hunts that night. Or any other variation on this.

Have any GMs besides EURO ever played with something like this?
I think some GM had a fixed hunt pattern ABCCBA or something only he didn't want the pack to know how many pack there were and so he told all pack to send in orders every day. There was also some GM that used time stamp on hunt orders to decide which pack hunted (or was that only something that was discussed?)
 
Working by the theory of next in line assassination, the vile fiend is clear to us. Rysz no doubt killed him in order to destroy that which follows him in the arrival (sign up) order. The logic is without fault as I currently see it.

unvote adamus
vote rysz

There is a fault: I have never before done something which used the list order.

Now, there is Boris up there: He is is still quite a new player, and I don't want him dead yet.
Lurken is just returned from a long break. He deserves to play just a bit longer than 1 day.

Vote walrus

To keep the other 2 alive.