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Official vote count, 14 50min to deadline
joebthegreat - 2 - randakar, Rysz
Slinky - 1 - Cyriandor
Jopi - 1 - joebthegreat
not voted - 3 - Raczynski, Jopi*, Slinky
joebthegreat - 2 - randakar, Rysz
Slinky - 1 - Cyriandor
Jopi - 1 - joebthegreat
not voted - 3 - Raczynski, Jopi*, Slinky
We still have an original wolf out there...
I really don't see any definitive evidence that clears Jopi from being in the same pack as jacob-Lundgren...
I think it's dumb that you would focus on trying to find the turned wolf when Jopi is sitting RIGHT THERE... We tried to tie Jopi with jacob-Lundgren and jonti-h for a reason. randakar was on board with killing Jopi back then. Absolutely nothing has happened between then and now that can legitimately be used for analysis. Unless you want to count the time jacob-Lundgren and Jopi overtly acted together to get jonti-h lynched as opposed to either one of them.
I honestly don't see why you're suddenly turning a blind to Jopi. Well actually I can see one reason...
I really don't see any definitive evidence that clears Jopi from being in the same pack as jacob-Lundgren...
I think it's dumb that you would focus on trying to find the turned wolf when Jopi is sitting RIGHT THERE... We tried to tie Jopi with jacob-Lundgren and jonti-h for a reason. randakar was on board with killing Jopi back then. Absolutely nothing has happened between then and now that can legitimately be used for analysis. Unless you want to count the time jacob-Lundgren and Jopi overtly acted together to get jonti-h lynched as opposed to either one of them.
I honestly don't see why you're suddenly turning a blind to Jopi. Well actually I can see one reason...
Maybe their reason is that randakar said that I was seer scanned? That's pretty convincing... I could still be the schismatic cultist, yes, but I'd prefer us to try to kill the schismatic wolf/wolves and wrap up this game instead of stalling it. By the way, you used to ask the wolves to hunt you, but you don't anymore. Any reason for that? Did you happen to find out you actually were cursed...?
Because of johho888 we know that someone was turned before he took over GM-ing. We also have strong evidence that the turned wolf is a schismatic wolf. After the first no hunt night there were two days of voting, if I look specifically at those days then the following things stand out:
joebthegreat
Raczynski
Votes jacob-Lundgren at first, but then unvotes him
Randakar
voted jacob-Lundgren both days and outed him, though since he is in contact with the seer, he could have been forced to. Not a likely schismatic if there are indeed two protectors (we would have heard something by now if this is not the case).
Ciryandor
Doesn't vote jacob-Lundgren, but does try to undo the snipe to jonti-h
Rysz
Votes jacob-Lundgren the second day before the outing
Jopi
Is a scanned non-wolf according to our JL-spokesperson.
Slinky
voted jacob-Lundgren the first day
From the remaining players randakar and Jopi are not wolves. Ciryandor and Raczynski are the only two of the rest who do not actually vote jacob-Lundgren. From the players left Rysz and joebthegreat voted jacob-Lundgren on the day he was lynched. However I got a PM saying jacob-Lundgren was a scanned wolf so I do not know if they got something similar in which case their vote doesn't say much.
Since randakar presumably knows more than I do and joebthegreat does look like a good suspect I'll vote him.
Vote joebthegreat
joebthegreat
joebthegreat is making some pretty weird posts in hindsight. However he does vote jacob-Lundgren the second day before the actual announcement is made.
Guess who actually was a baddieI would have to be a baddie to hunt you.
Raczynski
Votes jacob-Lundgren at first, but then unvotes him
This vote prepared the ground for the snipe.
Then he was just too late to undo it. Convenient or just bad luck?I thought the votes at 21.30 counted. Also, J-L used "confuse" feat on me
Randakar
voted jacob-Lundgren both days and outed him, though since he is in contact with the seer, he could have been forced to. Not a likely schismatic if there are indeed two protectors (we would have heard something by now if this is not the case).
Ciryandor
Doesn't vote jacob-Lundgren, but does try to undo the snipe to jonti-h
Rysz
Votes jacob-Lundgren the second day before the outing
Jopi
Is a scanned non-wolf according to our JL-spokesperson.
Slinky
voted jacob-Lundgren the first day
From the remaining players randakar and Jopi are not wolves. Ciryandor and Raczynski are the only two of the rest who do not actually vote jacob-Lundgren. From the players left Rysz and joebthegreat voted jacob-Lundgren on the day he was lynched. However I got a PM saying jacob-Lundgren was a scanned wolf so I do not know if they got something similar in which case their vote doesn't say much.
Since randakar presumably knows more than I do and joebthegreat does look like a good suspect I'll vote him.
Vote joebthegreat
Well if Jopi was scanned and cleared I missed it...
And if Jopi was scanned and cleared that would mean there are exactly one people left who haven't been scanned as the original wolf as far as I can tell...
And if Jopi was scanned and cleared that would mean there are exactly one people left who haven't been scanned as the original wolf as far as I can tell...
No seriously randakar, where did you say we had scanned Jopi?
Because that would make Rysz the ONLY person not yet scanned. We STILL HAVE AN ORIGINAL WOLF OUT THERE...
It's either Rysz or Jopi, obviously. Now randakar, I'm expecting some damn answers.
(EDIT: and now I see it, mixed in with your usual spam "analysis" that attempts to clear people way too quickly)
Alright then. Either Rysz is a wolf or randakar has been lying about who was scanned... end of story.
UNVOTE JOPI
VOTE RYSZ THE WOLF
I can guarantee that either Rysz is a wolf, or randakar is giving out misinformation.
Because that would make Rysz the ONLY person not yet scanned. We STILL HAVE AN ORIGINAL WOLF OUT THERE...
It's either Rysz or Jopi, obviously. Now randakar, I'm expecting some damn answers.
(EDIT: and now I see it, mixed in with your usual spam "analysis" that attempts to clear people way too quickly)
Alright then. Either Rysz is a wolf or randakar has been lying about who was scanned... end of story.
UNVOTE JOPI
VOTE RYSZ THE WOLF
I can guarantee that either Rysz is a wolf, or randakar is giving out misinformation.
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This is joeb...
We no longer have an original wolf out there... I've been reading the posts wrong this whole time...
(From now on, I'd like to request that when it shows someone as dead, it specifically states whether they were a wolf or a cultist, and not just the RP name for what they were... )
We no longer have an original wolf out there... I've been reading the posts wrong this whole time...
(From now on, I'd like to request that when it shows someone as dead, it specifically states whether they were a wolf or a cultist, and not just the RP name for what they were...
)
In fact f*** this game I'm out. Lynch me or autokill me I don't even want to play anymore. It's been impossible for me to understand or care about how anything has been organized since day one. 4 packs or 3 packs? A million roles and traits distributed leaving villagers like me out in the dust. Poorly kept first page that doesn't effectively explain whether killed baddies were cultists or wolves... holy s*** it's impossible for me to actually play when I can't keep basic facts straight.
I'll see you all in a month...
I'll see you all in a month...
I've been trying to keep a similar sentiment in check all this time, it's damn near impossible to even seriously attempt an analysis of roles and votes when the player list is so confusing.
Unvote Slinky
Vote Rysz
He's the only blank I have in my personal tally, now that Slinky has had his say.
I also thoroughly enjoyed when you publicly announced that Kehaar was a bad lynch.
At the time he was. He had lynched a schismatic wolf and an atheïst wolf.
Heck, looking back at the vote record, I saved Euro and Johho too. Not to mention failing to get Jacob lynched ..
(That one still bugs me though.. OY remains -the- scapegoat in werewolf. He really does.)
The one possible infiltrator was scanned tonight and cleared. That is why the suspect list went down to just 2 people.
The one original baddie left is most likely to be a cultist. And that cultist will die if we lynch the wolf. Therefore, we need to lynch the wolf today.
Agreed. Jopi is by far the most likely cultist suspect.
No, I have analysis that makes him a highly likely schismatic cultist. He cannot possibly be a wolf as we scanned him after the no hunt.
Unfortunately we are not interested in catching cultists.
That will just give the wolf another day to eat someone. I want this game to be over. Today.
He is a scanned nonwolf. It's that simple.
What happened is that we scanned him, Joeb.
I do too
I send that PM to Joeb and you.
As for the others, it shouldn't be hard to figure out. We have one more person scan-cleared tonight, so unless the second no hunt was another curse turn the list of wolf suspects boils down to Joeb, slinky, and Rysz. In that order.
I did complain about misreading the update already days ago. It wasn't -that- obvious that Najs was a cultist until drxav pointed it out to me.
I posted what the setup was likely to be twice, Joeb.
So why are you suddenly giving up now? Are we on to your game, perchance?
Come on people. End this game tonight in an epic struggle, so we can move on to a normal game with less traits, less wolves, less randomness and more thinking.
I think I have done quite enough thinking this game, thanks.
If I lose this it's not because I didn't try
Simplest solution is usually the best, so
Vote joebthegreat.
Randakar's explanations so far look credible to me, so I don't think it's reasonable to suspect that he has been turned. None of the protectors have disputed his claims in the public and the seer still lives, so that's good enough for me. Also I just want to say that I am not a cultist, but sadly I don't have any compelling evidence to give you. My voting record's not very good, but it's not so easy when you don't know anything.
Goodnight sweet enemy of mine.
UNVOTE RYSZ
VOTE SLINKY
You guys make it a tie and win yourselves the game... and goodnight.
UNVOTE RYSZ
VOTE SLINKY
You guys make it a tie and win yourselves the game... and goodnight.
Update shows the standard name of all dead guys at the bottom of the post. As for the first page it was a mix of mostly RP and some standard names when I took over. My summary posts only lists RP names (I thought it would be easier if it wasn't a mix) but I can give you one with standard names, just give me a few minutes.(From now on, I'd like to request that when it shows someone as dead, it specifically states whether they were a wolf or a cultist, and not just the RP name for what they were...
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The first page summary should then read somthing like this:
Player List
1. Najs as a Boondock Saint the Infidel Cultist was lynched on Day 4.
2. Boris ze Spider as Heresy the Apprentice Villager was hunted on Night 8.
3. Rysz as Paul Desmond
4. AOK. 11 as Pastor Ted "AOK" Haggard the Seer was hunted on Night 0.
5. Sedracus as Cardinal Ximénez the Atheist Werewolf was lynched on Day 2.
6. randakar as Richard Dawkins
7. Jopi
8. Adamus as Charlie Sheen's soul the Hunter Villager was accidentally killed by the GM on Night 2.
9. walrus the Protective Schismatic Werewolf was lynched on Day 5.
10. Lord Strange as Villager George the Atheist Cultist was autolynched by God on Day 6.
11. enkhuush subbed by Kaetje the Villager was hunted on Night 5
12. drxav as Saint Denis the Doctor was hunted on Night 10.
13. Paendrag as father O'Shenanigan the Spy Villager was hunted on Night 1.
14. Lurken as the Emperor the Hunter Villager was Hunter-killed on Night 4.
15. jonti-h the Apprentice Villager was lynched on Day 8.
16. Kehaar as Father Ted Crilly the Infidel Hunter Werewolf was lynched on Day 10.
17. Slinky
18. Jolt as Jorge Jesus the Blessed Apprentice Villager was lynched on Day 2.
19. Cyriandor as Cardinal Sin
20. Eternaly_Lost as "someone who has time to play WW again" the Schismatic Werewolf was lynched on Day 1.
21. Raczynski as Aeron Damphair.
22. joebthegreat as Ms Bush
23. EUROO7 as "Col. Qaḏḏāfī and the Tripolis" the Infidel Werewolf was autolynched by God on Day 6.
24. Jackpot15 as Comrade Conrad the Atheist Werewolf was executed on Day 5.
25. johho888 as Jeanne d'Arc the Infidel Werewolf was accidentally killed by the GM on Night 2.
26. k-59 as The Goddamn Batman the Villager was autolynched by God on Day 6.
27. jacob-Lundgren the Schismatic Werewolf was lynched on Day 9.
28. Orange Yoshi as "the one who is left no choice but to join" the Villager was lynched on Day 3.
29. the_hdk the Atheist Werewolf was lynched on Day 7.
30. J. Passepartout as Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople the Priest was hunted on Night 5.
Alive : 7
Dead : 23
That took four minutes using search and replace. Not really that hard.
Player List
1. Najs as a Boondock Saint the Infidel Cultist was lynched on Day 4.
2. Boris ze Spider as Heresy the Apprentice Villager was hunted on Night 8.
3. Rysz as Paul Desmond
4. AOK. 11 as Pastor Ted "AOK" Haggard the Seer was hunted on Night 0.
5. Sedracus as Cardinal Ximénez the Atheist Werewolf was lynched on Day 2.
6. randakar as Richard Dawkins
7. Jopi
8. Adamus as Charlie Sheen's soul the Hunter Villager was accidentally killed by the GM on Night 2.
9. walrus the Protective Schismatic Werewolf was lynched on Day 5.
10. Lord Strange as Villager George the Atheist Cultist was autolynched by God on Day 6.
11. enkhuush subbed by Kaetje the Villager was hunted on Night 5
12. drxav as Saint Denis the Doctor was hunted on Night 10.
13. Paendrag as father O'Shenanigan the Spy Villager was hunted on Night 1.
14. Lurken as the Emperor the Hunter Villager was Hunter-killed on Night 4.
15. jonti-h the Apprentice Villager was lynched on Day 8.
16. Kehaar as Father Ted Crilly the Infidel Hunter Werewolf was lynched on Day 10.
17. Slinky
18. Jolt as Jorge Jesus the Blessed Apprentice Villager was lynched on Day 2.
19. Cyriandor as Cardinal Sin
20. Eternaly_Lost as "someone who has time to play WW again" the Schismatic Werewolf was lynched on Day 1.
21. Raczynski as Aeron Damphair.
22. joebthegreat as Ms Bush
23. EUROO7 as "Col. Qaḏḏāfī and the Tripolis" the Infidel Werewolf was autolynched by God on Day 6.
24. Jackpot15 as Comrade Conrad the Atheist Werewolf was executed on Day 5.
25. johho888 as Jeanne d'Arc the Infidel Werewolf was accidentally killed by the GM on Night 2.
26. k-59 as The Goddamn Batman the Villager was autolynched by God on Day 6.
27. jacob-Lundgren the Schismatic Werewolf was lynched on Day 9.
28. Orange Yoshi as "the one who is left no choice but to join" the Villager was lynched on Day 3.
29. the_hdk the Atheist Werewolf was lynched on Day 7.
30. J. Passepartout as Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople the Priest was hunted on Night 5.
Alive : 7
Dead : 23
That took four minutes using search and replace. Not really that hard.
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Official vote count, 5h 52min to deadline
joebthegreat - 4 - randakar, Rysz, Slinky, Jopi*
Slinky - 1 - joebthegreat
Rysz - 1 - Cyriandor
not voted - 1 - Raczynski
joebthegreat - 4 - randakar, Rysz, Slinky, Jopi*
Slinky - 1 - joebthegreat
Rysz - 1 - Cyriandor
not voted - 1 - Raczynski
You can't really blame the GMs for that. It was all Sedracus the werewolf that managed to confuse everyone including our wolfpack. He was a werewolf so leaving the village guessing as to the setup is what he was supposed to do and he did a great job of it.