There was a crime. They hunted someone who became a wolf. That's an action. "You see the wolves get into (...)'s room. There are some weird sounds. Next day (...) is up." Bam, you could guess he was turned.
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There was a crime. They hunted someone who became a wolf. That's an action. "You see the wolves get into (...)'s room. There are some weird sounds. Next day (...) is up." Bam, you could guess he was turned.
Rysz didn't even send in an order?
:rofl:
Right.
And he was bragging about how he fooled me earlier downstairs, too... (I am not going to get into that discussion now, thanks.)
Ah well.
:rofl:
Right.
And he was bragging about how he fooled me earlier downstairs, too... (I am not going to get into that discussion now, thanks.)
Ah well.
That doesn't mean it doesn't suck for the player involved.
The witness power is a once per game thing. You have your miss chance already. To have it blocked just because "there was no crime"..
And when you think about it, that's a bit odd. No crime, yes, but there was a group of people sneaking around during the night, breaking into people's houses.
Me seeing jacob may not have changed the game a lot but it would have meant we would have lynched him sooner.
She's around. I'll poke her tomorrow about having a look at the forum. Is it her turn to GM yet?
I CAN get a game thread up tonight and know my set up (numbers requiring tweaks of course) but cannot start it until the lite game is up and running so at the earliest I could start it Wednesday/Thursday.
She's ahead of j-L on the list right now; actually the person right before him, so she and j-L ought to talk about who's going to run the next game. I ought to STAY OUT of WW up until my time to GM... the deadlines are not good for my mental health.
Congratulations Jopi and Rysz. Well done Kehaar on your first game. Thank you johho for ending this. 
I'm sorry but some slip ups are bound to happen if you change GM in midgame. This one was hardly gamebreaking. Just compare to what reis did to our pack - killed off one wolf (me) becuase he misread our hunt order and causing another wolf to quit the game (EURO).
Don't forget about Eternaly_Lost. He has first dibs on next game and he did play this game so it's not like he hasn't been around for ages or anything.
I can obviously wait until after she shows up to post about gming or not.
And if the deadlines bother you just fake a witness every day from day 1 on until you are killed one way or another and you wont see many deadlines.
If everyone quits, WW will just turn into euro playing with himself
That was so close
I'm done with werewolf for a while
If everyone quits, WW will just turn into euro playing with himself
Kinky
If everyone quits, WW will just turn into euro playing with himself
He does that enough already.
Checked back to see what we said about witnessing on no-kill nights before.
I'll do what I feel like because I am the GM... Why even put that in the rules?some witness rule I used (probably copied from someone else) said:
But of course it sucks for the player involved.
Yes. The most valid complaint here, no doubt. I missed on updating the spreadsheet with the new order, and it was compounded by the trigger on the 33,3% hunter riposte. It screwed johho's game and hit the Infidel pack, but I don't condone EURO's attitude. Understand, I do, but it's the easy way out. Luckily Kehaar kept playing, despite forgetting to send an order now and then.
And EURO, no arrogance intended at all.
About the setup, the goodies had 2 doctors, instead of traditional 1 doc/1 GA. The goal (and the reason I upped the chance to 66%), was to strain the wolfpacks into being careful about protections and working around them, so as to not get detected.
The information leaked at the start created a lot of paranoia, even if I did say there would be "slight changes". In reality, there were none, apart from the role reshuffling.
My summary of the game is simple. Reasonably balanced setup, poor execution. With a more careful GM, this could have been a better game. Still, I don't feel this was a debacle, it contained some interesting gameplay and was a good experience to have been able to GM a Big game, although I prefer being on the player side.
PS : randakar, I didn't have a criteria for such an event, and did what I judged best for game balance. Had you been successful, the Schismatic pack had a snowball's chance in hell of winning. Plus, your scan wasn't a 100% one, it could very well have been "tilted" to fail (although I never resorted to anything but the Random Number Generator).
Nice! Thanks to Slinky for sending in that hunt order to win the game for us. It became quite exciting in the end... Didn't start too well for us, what with E_L dead very soon, walrus following him a bit later and then me and j-L pretty much constantly heading for the gallows. We got quite lucky in the end to hit two cursed and that the Seer scanned me. I think the goodies lost their nerve on the final day. You had a seer and a doc left, you should have just lynched me and tomorrow you would have had one more scan result and possibly a doc save as well. On the other hand, I understand if you are nervous that you personally get hunted and lose the game on the last night... Patience is a virtue. And always assume that no-kill nights are turned wolves, unless you know that it isn't so! The difference my scans made was that we hunted drxav because we knew he was a doctor and as such a good target and unlikely to be protected as well.
Thanks to reis and johho for GMing!
Thanks to reis and johho for GMing!
It could never say that. A spy report, perhaps, but a Witness order could only return one of the hunters, and never the target.
Johho's mistake in the doctor being a role and not a trait is somewhat comprehensible, as the doctor is somewhat often a trait. Perhaps in another game the GM may decide to make doctor's scanable? Dunno how to balance that, though.
I PMed my fellow wolves I wouldn't be online today (I left at 07:30h and just came home again now (01:00), and certainly not near the deadline. Also I've been extremely busy this whole week with stuff suddenly coming up, and I haven't been home that much. (and suddenly the game shutting down didn't help that much either). When I got turned, it was a surprise which was not too welcome. Thankfully my fellow wolves send in hunts, but it was a failure in my part that I hardly ever communicated with them.
Randakar: From my point of view, I "fooled" you, yes, because I was a wolf for the past few days (even when drxav PMed me and asked me to lynch j-L). But it was not a fooling which required much effort, nor did it take much effort.
It was not my best game, and you could have some debate on how I did not deserve to win. But that's the problem with cursed, you suddenly just switch sides, and everything changes. IMO, Jopi deserves this win 100%.
Randakar: From my point of view, I "fooled" you, yes, because I was a wolf for the past few days (even when drxav PMed me and asked me to lynch j-L). But it was not a fooling which required much effort, nor did it take much effort.
It was not my best game, and you could have some debate on how I did not deserve to win. But that's the problem with cursed, you suddenly just switch sides, and everything changes. IMO, Jopi deserves this win 100%.
Sedracus' "Satanic pack" made at least me assume there were 4 packs. Given the size of the pack I didn't think that unreasonable. This made me aim for TIEs in the lynching which I otherwise wouldn't have done - because it felt the right way to do with more than 50% baddies. That in turn seemed to get votes thrown my way. Or maybe that was because I accidentally helped lynch (or did I just vote them?) two wolves?
Which could well be why the old witness rule I found left it to the GM to decide. A little leeway to balance the game.
Agreed.
No, I don't think protectors should be scannable. I don't even like spies. Some roles should just not be possible to verify by anyone. Uncertainty is a good thing in a WW game.
If I should give some feedback on the setup I think telling apprentices that they were apprentices is a bad thing. We have had GMs try that before and it always ends up with too many goodie apprentices once the JL gets going. A starting seer's apprentice I think was a bit much here but since the seer died immediately that sort of took care of itself. Letting a dead scanner's scan return to the apprentice is something that is not usually done. Personally I don't like pack specific cultists because you have to kill (or promote) them once their pack dies.
I mean, it not like I am not already hosting a game in another thread here. Just in case you missed the BSG season 8.
I can host, but I will not be able to put the thread up until Monday as I need some time to finish it, and I am currently at one of the two events that takes a combinded 20 hours away from my weekends.