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AOK. 11 said:
Grown? Into a wolf seeking revenge?
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I don't need to be a wolf to get revenge, AOK.
As for seeking it - I have considered it for a while. I know one excuisite way to get it. But I have decided against it. For now.

Najs said:
EL bagged us a cursed villager. Not too shabby.
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Are you kidding me? Cursed villagers aren't baddies unless they are hunted. His lynch gives us no information. At all.

enkhuush said:
I'm wondering what made to EL using his leader power?
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He was in the running, but .. I have no idea. He did that once before but then Leaders were roles - aka instantly known goodies.
That is not the case in this game, is it?

@paendrag
Johho? What's wrong with Johho?
 
Did I mention I broke 2 ties and did my best to avoid vote snipes possible by switching to Reis and Walrus when I was myself in danger?

Did I also mention EL, Randy, Najs and EUROO made ties possible with their vote switches?

BTW, EL that was a damn waste, no matter the result.
 
randakar said:
@paendrag
Johho? What's wrong with Johho?
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He's the leader of a gang of sexual harrassers.. Well there might not be anything wrong with that, but this town is not big enough for him..

OOC/ Other than that he seems to be a nice chap with just a tad bit to many wins ;)
 
randakar said:
Are you kidding me? Cursed villagers aren't baddies unless they are hunted. His lynch gives us no information. At all.
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I don't believe Najs ever mentioned Lemeard's death gave us information. A dead cursed villager is a good cursed villager. His death does more good than bad to the village, and your unfounded accusations of Najs for pointing this out seem disingenuous at best, evil at worst.

Unvote Dr. Xavier
Vote Randakar the black magician
 
drxav said:
Did I also mention EL, Randy, Najs and EUROO made ties possible with their vote switches?

BTW, EL that was a damn waste, no matter the result.
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Making ties possible is not necessarily a sign of wolfishness, drxav. Putting people in ties is pressuring people to try and change the vote. That in turn leads to finding wolves. It's a fine line to walk, what with ties at the deadline more likely to be bad for the village, but ..

EUROO7 said:
I don't believe Najs ever mentioned Lemeard's death gave us information. A dead cursed villager is a good cursed villager. His death does more good than bad to the village, and your unfounded accusations of Najs for pointing this out seem disingenuous at best, evil at worst.
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Lemeard was under zero lynch pressure. EL announcing he would leaderlynch Lemeard only made sure that wolves would happily vote their packmates with no fear of repercussion. Meaning that all information in the vote cycle after that point becomes useless. Even more importantly, without knowing what any of the people in that vote cycle actually -were-, we now have no way to ascertain anything about the identities of the other people in that vote cycle.

Yes, a cursed villager being dead is not a bad thing per sé, but since he was not part of a pack it doesn't matter a single iota for the primary purpose of the game - which is, if you hadn't noticed, that we try to find the actual wolf packs.
 
randakar said:
Making ties possible is not necessarily a sign of wolfishness, drxav. Putting people in ties is pressuring people to try and change the vote. That in turn leads to finding wolves. It's a fine line to walk, what with ties at the deadline more likely to be bad for the village, but ..
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Agreed. Although for some strange reason voting off TIE-makers actually bagged us a few wolves the last couple of games. A bit like when we a few games in a row lynched inactives and bagged one wolf after another (all helped by the book of Hax but still).

randakar said:
Lemeard was under zero lynch pressure. EL announcing he would leaderlynch Lemeard only made sure that wolves would happily vote their packmates with no fear of repercussion. Meaning that all information in the vote cycle after that point becomes useless. Even more importantly, without knowing what any of the people in that vote cycle actually -were-, we now have no way to ascertain anything about the identities of the other people in that vote cycle.
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You are assuming the wolves trusted Eternaly_Lost's claim that he would leaderlynch someone to be true. Seems a bit risky to me. I for one interpreted his leader claims first as just a variant of Euro's "my packmates and I talk" and later I took it as a desperate attempt to get off the hook from a baddie or an important goodie about to be lynched. I never actually considered that he might be telling the truth. :eek:o Play WW too much and you don't believe anything...

randakar said:
Yes, a cursed villager being dead is not a bad thing per sé, but since he was not part of a pack it doesn't matter a single iota for the primary purpose of the game - which is, if you hadn't noticed, that we try to find the actual wolf packs.
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True but we could be a lot worse of after day 1 than with a lynched cursed one.
 
Paendrag said:
Yes there could be ongoing sexual harassment at night by you and your "Jolly Jumper".. Wait that's actually what's happening.. :(
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Sure, maybe Jolly Jumper and I took a bit too much pleasure in spanking the kid but he really had it coming!
 
randakar said:
Are you kidding me? Cursed villagers aren't baddies unless they are hunted. His lynch gives us no information. At all.
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You clearly missed my point, which EURO kindly pointed out.

randakar said:
Lemeard was under zero lynch pressure. EL announcing he would leaderlynch Lemeard only made sure that wolves would happily vote their packmates with no fear of repercussion. Meaning that all information in the vote cycle after that point becomes useless. Even more importantly, without knowing what any of the people in that vote cycle actually -were-, we now have no way to ascertain anything about the identities of the other people in that vote cycle.

Yes, a cursed villager being dead is not a bad thing per sé, but since he was not part of a pack it doesn't matter a single iota for the primary purpose of the game - which is, if you hadn't noticed, that we try to find the actual wolf packs.
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It was day 1. We cannot count on always bagging a wolf on day 1 but at least a cursed villager is dead. In case you have forgotten, two cursed villagers won the game before the previous Big after being cleared and subsequently hunted.

johho888 said:
True but we could be a lot worse of after day 1 than with a lynched cursed one.
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Indeed.

With that said, I really think you could cheer up a bit Randy. It wasn't a bad day, we have lots and lots of votes to use when we actually kill a wolf.
 
unofficial vote count

drxav - 3 - najs, adamus, boris
EL - 2 - paendrag, athlacor
walrus - 1 - xenomorph
enkhuush - 1 - ciryandor
najs - 1 - drxav
rand - 1 - euro
boris - 1 - johho

not voted - 11 - walrus, guy, reis, EL, ese, slinky, j. pass, rand, aok, enkhuush, seth

A bit of a bandwagon on drxav there, when boris voted he was actually at 4. What did he do/say that was so horrible?
A bit of a revenge vote by drxav back at najs. Could be seen as something of a baddie tell (or they are just friendly rivals)
Since yesterday's vote didn't go through it is hard to draw any sort of conclusions from that.
Last night's hunt was on trespoe. Does that tell us anything?

For now I'll just go with the worst bandwagoneer.

vote Boris ze Spider
 
Paendrag said:
NOOOOOOOOOO.. Not Slinky..
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OOC: Slinky is who you thought of when you saw Billy the Kid? Really? I was thinking of using that pic if I wanted to go for a newbie or maybe someone that made some infantile comment. Speaking of which, where is jonti-h these days?
 
jacob-Lundgren said:
So they forced Walrus to do the cleaning and thus he failed not being a female walrus.
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If only you knew ;) And

Vote drxav

I know my role, and I know E_L did the right thing there, although how he knew to switch away from me to a cursed player, I don't know. Anyway, I'll move drxav ahead a little bit for now.
 
walrus said:
If only you knew ;) And

Vote drxav

I know my role, and I know E_L did the right thing there, although how he knew to switch away from me to a cursed player, I don't know. Anyway, I'll move drxav ahead a little bit for now.
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So what you're saying is that you and E_L are packmates? :p
 
Najs said:
It was day 1. We cannot count on always bagging a wolf on day 1 but at least a cursed villager is dead. In case you have forgotten, two cursed villagers won the game before the previous Big after being cleared and subsequently hunted.
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And you seem to be missing my point, which is that while you may feel happy about that it has absolutely no bearing on how we need to look at EL's actions.


Najs said:
With that said, I really think you could cheer up a bit Randy. It wasn't a bad day, we have lots and lots of votes to use when we actually kill a wolf.
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*shrug* My daughter is sick and she's very sad. You'll have to excuse me for not being mr. sunshine.
(It's not serious, she's just unhappy.)

Vote najs

A holder of places.

edit: meh. That's just impolite of me.

Unvote najs
Vote Boris

There.
 
EUROO7 said:
Trespoe, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

I knew him well. He would have wanted us to kill rice

Vote drxav

Tell us your secrets, Doctor.
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In normal circumstances, I would advise some qualified help for obsessive behavior, but I pity the psychiatrist.

randakar said:
I don't need to be a wolf to get revenge, AOK.
As for seeking it - I have considered it for a while. I know one excuisite way to get it. But I have decided against it. For now.

Are you kidding me? Cursed villagers aren't baddies unless they are hunted. His lynch gives us no information. At all.
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You know better than that, Rand.

As for the plotting to put down AOK like a dog, count me in.
 
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