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Vainglory said:
You have serious trouble with comprehension. Yesterday the simple sentence "no scanned villager was lied to" and today I clearly stated that I believe there's a good case against Blackadder. You're the one not voting him. You still haven't presented any good case against me. At all. Neither has Kingepyon. Reis has given "We know everyone who voted against Iago, except you" and now the fact that I saved myself. How evil of me, I saved myself! Reis was thrashing about near the deadline and damn near created a tied lynch as well as getting the seer killed - smooth move on that by the way, guys - and I move to save myself by swapping votes from Titania to Romeo and back, this is suspicious? Saving myself is suspicious?
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You do have a bit of a comprehension issue too. That was not my case. My case was that two known wolves voted a wolf, and one known wolf voted another wolf. Assuming that the pack would fight with an equal strike, two wolves voting each of the run-up wolves seems plausible. And since we know that every other voter was a villager...

Also, nice touch blaming me for voting to save Titania, and for getting Titania killed.

The thing is, there is no way, other than hypnotizing Adamus or the GM, that it could have worked out for me to be a wolf. So whether I did the most "wolfy" thing in the world does not matter.
 
Capt. Kiwi said:
There is nothing on Romeo. He's done nothing. It sucks, but we can't help it. The pile up on him indicates that the wolves see him as an easy lynch, which gives circumstantial evidence he's innocent. Thus, we are not lynching him until someone actually gives a coherent reason to. He may or may not be a wolf, but anyone except reis or me is a better target.

We are also not going after more than two people at a time. Thus, noone will switch off you until the shift from Romeo to Blackadder is complete. Then we can discuss the merit of your case.
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You really haven't thought this through. Until Romeo showed up if I swapped to Blackadder, Blackadder swaps to me. It goes from a 3-2 lead to a 4-2 lead against me. Wonderful plan from the same Brains Trust that brought us "Lynching Your Own Seer."

Secondly, I have done nothing. You still haven't presented a case. Do I need to repeat this three times in italics and bold for you to get it? You're saying Romeo did nothing wrong. Bullshit. He refused to vote an outed wolf. He's deliberately lying low (ancient wolf tactic from his generation). You're clearing him on the basis that he must be attracting wolf votes. That's not true at all. There are three wolves, two cleared villagers (although with your voting the seer crap and Adamus' failure to tell you you were scanned, I'm wondering about this now, because your behavior is massively obtuse) and three villagers. Consequently it's possible that Romeo, Ah Q, and Lady Sue are wolves, in which case no wolf has voted for Romeo.

@ Reis

Oh so you didn't vote Titania then? Oh, wait, you did. I was being run up, the only way to save myself was to vote up the other frontrunner. That meant Titania, until you unvoted him, and then it meant Titania when you moved back. As with now, my moves are constrained by the requirement of saving myself. Even now, I vote Romeo and it goes 3-3, + Blackadder 4 against me, meaning Lady Sue has to vote Blackadder to avoid a tie. IE your move guarantees my death. This isn't a race at all.

Unvote Romeo
Vote Blackadder
 
reis91 said:
You do have a bit of a comprehension issue too. That was not my case. My case was that two known wolves voted a wolf, and one known wolf voted another wolf. Assuming that the pack would fight with an equal strike, two wolves voting each of the run-up wolves seems plausible. And since we know that every other voter was a villager...

Also, nice touch blaming me for voting to save Titania, and for getting Titania killed.

The thing is, there is no way, other than hypnotizing Adamus or the GM, that it could have worked out for me to be a wolf. So whether I did the most "wolfy" thing in the world does not matter.
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We didn't know, at the time, that Adamus was the seer, so yes, at the time, you did a wolfy action which was cause for a reaction.

However, we know now that the action was not wolfy, it was an action made to save the seer.

Anyone who wants to vote you now is an idiot, anyone who reacted to your wolfy action at the time was reacting to a wolfy action.
 
Kingepyon said:
We didn't know, at the time, that Adamus was the seer, so yes, at the time you did a wolfy action which was cause for a reaction.

However, we know now that the action was not wolfy, it was an action made to save the seer.
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Wrong again. As I already explained, it was a deliberate action to save a wolf.
 
reis91 said:
Wrong again. As I already explained, it was a deliberate action to save a wolf.
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Sure, and I saved him by voting for the one that had 3 votes and not 4?

Anyways, I'll switch to blackadder because I still think he's a better target, and blackadder is likely going to switch to macbeth to save himself.

unvote Macbeth
Vote Blackadder
 
@ Vainglory : I voted Titania in order to start up a counter-wagon. Which is exactly why I fault Kiwi's "circumstantial evidence". A good example was a Lite Stalingrad victory, where I was run up on three days by my own pack. At the same time, I couldn't be openly obvious, as Adamus's pack would grow suspicious, so I let others bring the other candidates. I considered pushing Napoleon, but it would be hard to pull off and it would make me look wolfish. Or get me a hunt from the other pack.
 
Kingepyon said:
Sure, and I saved him by voting for the one that had 3 votes and not 4?

Anyways, I'll switch to blackadder because I still think he's a better target, and blackadder is likely going to switch to macbeth to save himself.

unvote Macbeth
Vote Blackadder
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You misunderstood. I attempted to save Titania while believing her to be a wolf. The reasons are already thoroughly explained in another post of mine.
 
(5) Edmund Blackadder - Lady Kaede (707), Romeo (722), Macbeth (724), Ah Q (728), Touchstone (732)
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(1) Macbeth - Henry V (654)
(1) Romeo - Edmund Blackadder (678)
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Not voted: Lady Sué
 
Gah, bad tally for a moment there again, someone started talking to me while I was changing things and I lost my place <_< still it should be right now.
 
reis91 said:
Can someone sum up the case against Blackadder?
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I thought there was a case, but now I cannot find anything except Kiwi saying "Romeo voters should vote Blackadder"... I thought he'd done something suspicious...

He has been the other quiet guy (aside from Romeo) and he says he's out of the loop... Kiwi said that'd be an explanation for the hunt on Hidetora: Blackadder's out of the loop and fails to put a hunt on you or Kiwi. And the other pack is busy hunting the opposing pack. It's something... tenuous though...
 
The scribes of court scribble away furiously as dragon and tiger contend. With 1 hour till nightfall the accusations stand thus:

(5) Edmund Blackadder - Lady Kaede (707), Romeo (722),Macbeth (724), Ah Q (728), Touchstone (732)
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(1) Romeo - Edmund Blackadder (678)
(1) Macbeth - Henry V (654)

Not voted: Lady Sué​

Let all gaze on this record and should error be found, rectify it.
 
Vainglory said:
I thought there was a case, but now I cannot find anything except Kiwi saying "Romeo voters should vote Blackadder"... I thought he'd done something suspicious...

He has been the other quiet guy (aside from Romeo) and he says he's out of the loop... Kiwi said that'd be an explanation for the hunt on Hidetora: Blackadder's out of the loop and fails to put a hunt on you or Kiwi. And the other pack is busy hunting the opposing pack. It's something... tenuous though...
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So your first paragraph is directly contradicted by your second? Stay classy, Australia :cool: You also missed the revenge vote right at the very start of the game I pointed out. Top notch reading comprehension, there.
 
Vainglory said:
I thought there was a case, but now I cannot find anything except Kiwi saying "Romeo voters should vote Blackadder"... I thought he'd done something suspicious...

He has been the other quiet guy (aside from Romeo) and he says he's out of the loop... Kiwi said that'd be an explanation for the hunt on Hidetora: Blackadder's out of the loop and fails to put a hunt on you or Kiwi. And the other pack is busy hunting the opposing pack. It's something... tenuous though...
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That theory would require tamius to also be out of the loop. Can someone recall if tamius was online when Kiwi spilled the beans?

And please, if you have things to settle, there is this huge, luxurious bed over there in the East wing of the Palace. You're welcome.
 
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