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The emperor can say a lot about these things but im a low priest so can explain my reasoning for the last time point for point:

- We are all suspects on day one in the eye of the emperor. We have to draw from his wisdom therefor even more. Your vote change struck me as strange because I dont see an emperial reason to change vote from Rendap to Eternaly_Lost. You claim you had past lives where you "voted" for this person before, but there is no reason why you would change vote now when he was in actual danger.

- The emperor is not accusing everyone, it is my humble person who is accusing YOU. Day 1 the empire has no info, your move was suspicious, so enough to unvote another 2 vote because, in my humble view not based on any killing info, actions are worth more than random picks.

- To say it in the words of our god, there is nothing suspicious with voting and unvoting till proven, but voting and unvoting on day 1 before not even all have voted is. BURN HERETIC!

There was a reason:
Esemesas hunted again? Poor guy, two Lites, two times hunted on night 0.

So, I will start by proposing we lynch, on Day 1, the people who did not play last game, on the basis that they aren't sadistic players who delight themselves in tormenting esemesas, and would thus have preferred to hunt someone else if they were aware esemesas was hunted Night 0 last game. Therefore:

Vote Eternaly Lost

Because I thought reis had a decent idea. Which I said. Not to mention Randy does some work to re-enforce it in post 128.

Also, Reis is now being run up against Eternaly_Lost, which is even more informative as Reis is the one who is accusing Eternaly_Lost. We can find out a lot about reis even if E_L is lynched now. We can also find out about E_L if Reis is lynched.

All that information is in my post, don't think that I unvoted Rendap SOLELY because I vote for him alot.
 
Not sure why you post that as if its ingame talk but maybe times have changed (as you can see I always use color if not an ingame statement to make it clear you cant use these words for game purposes. I would still like Vains official verdict still. In old times false voting has been used to destroy empires. :D

It'll be fine. The game I GMd not long ago had this for a just-before-deadline vote off Ciryandor and onto Malurous:

Unvote cytri vote malrous

Vainglory had this to say in support of letting it count:

Thirded: clear intent. That's the standard practice: if it's clear at the time what their intent is, let it pass.

We're also not too picky about using colour if you're still in the game. Indeed, colour is the usual way to make a JL announcement stand out, which certainly is part of the game.

For the record, when I'm posting:

White - take seriously.
Violet - roleplay. Might have game related info, but probably not.
Pale green - dead/GMing/out of game talk.
Gold - Some bastard stole my colours :mad:;)
 
There was a reason:


Because I thought reis had a decent idea. Which I said. Not to mention Randy does some work to re-enforce it in post 128.

Also, Reis is now being run up against Eternaly_Lost, which is even more informative as Reis is the one who is accusing Eternaly_Lost. We can find out a lot about reis even if E_L is lynched now. We can also find out about E_L if Reis is lynched.

All that information is in my post, don't think that I unvoted Rendap SOLELY because I vote for him alot.

reis is being run up because esemesas was subbed straight back into the last game, and played a significant part of it. reis, as a victorious JL member, should have known that. His effort strikes me more as an attempt to direct attention.
 
reis is being run up because esemesas was subbed straight back into the last game, and played a significant part of it. reis, as a victorious JL member, should have known that. His effort strikes me more as an attempt to direct attention.

I know, which means the whole reis vs Eternaly_lost vote would give us more information than just a single reis vote, or a single Eternaly_Lost vote.

Which is why I changed my vote from Rendap to Eternaly_Lost.

Reis may be the better target for right now but that doesn't mean we should ignore other targets, especially on day 1. Putting Reis' analysis to the test is just as useful.
 
reis is being run up because esemesas was subbed straight back into the last game, and played a significant part of it. reis, as a victorious JL member, should have known that. His effort strikes me more as an attempt to direct attention.

Alright, sorta forgot about that. I still think that, in the absence of better information, it is still a valid point to start. Even if esemesas had won last game as a sub, being hunted twice on Night 0 means either grudge or ignorance. Unless someone points me to evidence of a grudge, I am tempted to assume the last.
 
Vote Count Day One - 5 Hours to Deadline


(3) Eternaly_Lost - reis91 (111), randakar (119, 130), Kingepyon (148, 150)
(3) Kingepyon - Boris ze Spider (151), Seen (109, 152), the_hdk (127, 165)


(2) Rendap - Taiisatai64 (108), Najs (118)
(2) Capt. Kiwi - Rendap (114), Nautilu (140)
(2) reis91 - Yakman (124), Capt. Kiwi (104, 147)

(1) the_hdk - Mr. G (116)
(1) Mr. G - snoopdogg (139)
(1) Nautilu - Eternaly_Lost (141)


Not Voted: trespoe
 
Not a huge improvement over last time. Despite reis being slightly wrong, it doesn't entirely invalidate his case. Kingepyon has been hit hard and fast. Personally I'd rather see EL ynched than Kingepyon, given the possible attempt to counter his lynching. And especially given the LSST vote late in the day from Boris.

That said, I want to stay alive, so

Unvote reis91
Vote Rendap


And we have three candidates to play with. One a slowly built up case based on minimal reasoning, one a blindside based on minimal reasoning, and one out of convenience.
 
Hey everyone, look at the shiny button! wait, what did Trillian say again... "Don't make a tie again?" no, it was "Buttons are not playtoys."

Screw that!

Vote Capt Kiwi


Hugs and kisses,
Zaphod
 
Not a huge improvement over last time. Despite reis being slightly wrong, it doesn't entirely invalidate his case. Kingepyon has been hit hard and fast. Personally I'd rather see EL ynched than Kingepyon, given the possible attempt to counter his lynching. And especially given the LSST vote late in the day from Boris.

That said, I want to stay alive, so

Unvote reis91
Vote Rendap


And we have three candidates to play with. One a slowly built up case based on minimal reasoning, one a blindside based on minimal reasoning, and one out of convenience.


*puts more lemons in his thinking cap*
I kinda agree with this sentiment. His reasoning is sound which is why I don't like it. I usually distrust the first two candidates brought up on the first couple of days. They tend to be voted up by wolves, which is why I was looking for a third or fourth option. I feel that there would be at least one wolfy in this pack of four tied currently. But I also feel the tie should be broken before deadline in what.... 3 or 4 hours?

Help! I need more lemons to think!

unvote Capt Kiwi

Vote REndap


much better now.
 
Vote Count Day One - 1 Hour to Deadline


(4) Rendap - Taiisatai64 (108), Najs (118), Capt. Kiwi (104, 147, 170), trespoe (171, 173)


(3) Eternaly_Lost - reis91 (111), randakar (119, 130), Kingepyon (148, 150)
(3) Kingepyon - Boris ze Spider (151), Seen (109, 152), the_hdk (127, 165)

(2) Capt. Kiwi - Rendap (114), Nautilu (140)

(1) the_hdk - Mr. G (116)
(1) reis91 - Yakman (124)
(1) Mr. G - snoopdogg (139)
(1) Nautilu - Eternaly_Lost (141)

Not Voted:
 
Capt. Kiwi has already put it to bed, basically, but just for anyone who isn't sure until they see my ruling, "Kinge" is a valid vote.

I'm not a concise person, so prepare to be bored with my overthinking on this matter. As Kiwi's quote indicates, my belief is that clear intent is all that matters. Naturally I accept diminutives of names, eg Tai for Taiisatai64, and nobody would quibble about typos, which with some of the names here, like Trinitrotoluen, aren't hard to make. As stated previously, I accept RP names, and obviously something like "vote Vainwolf" is acceptable too, since the suffix of wolf doesn't obscure the intent. An unusual diminutive, eg Kinge where most abbreviate to King, is fine as long as it doesn't threaten to obscure intent. Shortening Kingepyon to King if there was, say, a player named King Herod then it would be a problem, unless the post itself strongly indicated intent. In the case of Kiwi's quote, THE_SPLIT could only have been unvoting one person. If he'd been voting for Ciryandor in that case, and had typed cytri, with no explanation in the post, I'd probably have accepted it since "t" is next to "r" and clearly he's buggered it in his haste, which is understandable. There was no one else on the roster remotely near to "Cytri" and Ciry was an obvious vote at the time. So as long as intent is clear I'll take it, but if intent gets unclear I will have to dismiss it. Obviously it's preferable if you at least spell the diminutive right, though!
 
With that out of the way, back to the game. Would someone like to join me in putting someone out of sniping range? Rendap might be best, since I'm not about to set myself up like I'm saving Rendap, but I'd go Kingepyon or preferably EL if that's whot the vote landed on. As it stands, if Taiisatai64, Najs or trespoe are a wolf, and if EL, Kingepyon, Rendap and myself aren't, we could be in for a massacre bad enough that a wolf would be happy to sacrifce themself for. Shifting to 5/3/3 would be a little better.
 
With that out of the way, back to the game. Would someone like to join me in putting someone out of sniping range? Rendap might be best, since I'm not about to set myself up like I'm saving Rendap, but I'd go Kingepyon or preferably EL if that's whot the vote landed on. As it stands, if Taiisatai64, Najs or trespoe are a wolf, and if EL, Kingepyon, Rendap and myself aren't, we could be in for a massacre bad enough that a wolf would be happy to sacrifce themself for. Shifting to 5/3/3 would be a little better.

I was waiting until :30

But I'll do it anyway.

Unvote Eternaly_Lost
Vote Rendap