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reis' actions strike me more as one of his villager schemes than as a wolf scheme. Boris only has three posts in the thread, so he may have only been popping in and out whilst busy elsewhere. As randakar pointed out, Taiisatai was most helpful, but that actually makes his death useful :D

No, the one I'm interested in is snoopdogg. No wolf tells, instead agreeing with reis? But then instead of voting with reis on EL, he votes Mr. G? A player who is himself freshly back, and thus under the same protection as esemesas would have been under reis' theory? And no change to a front runner when snoopdogg pops in later?

Vote snoopdogg
 
care to elaborate?

Yes.

He made only a throw-away vote. He was one of the front runners, but voters seemed to skitter away from him, for no apparent reason. Despite being in the lead at one point, Kingepyon immediately switched back to rendap upon voting him, which may be a ploy to clear himself if he and E_L are packmates, which I presume to be unlikely. Reis also switched off him, I think that was to prevent a vote snipe though... In conclusion, I have a bad feeling about him.

I'll switch off him later in the day, because noone is going to hook on to my arguement.
 
You voted back and forth like a nervous wolf my dear colleague.

I wonder why you are making that argument against me, instead of, for instance, Taiisatai. Certainly not because your packmates, right?

Randakar said:
Oooh, deadline shenanigans!
.. and that makes King / Taiisataii an unlikely wolf pair. If either is a wolf, the other isn't.

King/EL as packmates seems pretty unlikely, too.

Pushes EL into the lead .. That makes EL/Taisataii unlikely.

It did yield us quite a bit of info on you, EL and Tai though

Moral of the story : Taii should had included Kiwi in his switches too to come up even better in Randy analysis. I expected that you, after so many WW games, after seeing AOK abuse this tactic, would know better. Perhaps you do know better, and have reasons to look less knowledgeable...

Well, he surely makes a good hunt target after today, don't you agree?

Despite your best efforts, no. :p

Boris tends to ring my wolf bells a lot these days. He's a decent candidate - at some point those bells have to be right about him for once

Awesome.
 
Yes.

He made only a throw-away vote. He was one of the front runners, but voters seemed to skitter away from him, for no apparent reason. Despite being in the lead at one point, Kingepyon immediately switched back to rendap upon voting him, which may be a ploy to clear himself if he and E_L are packmates, which I presume to be unlikely. Reis also switched off him, I think that was to prevent a vote snipe though... In conclusion, I have a bad feeling about him.

I'll switch off him later in the day, because noone is going to hook on to my arguement.

good. :) we can test this

Vote Eternaly_Lost
 
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And Taii, although I do agree with you, that there were wolf fingers in yesterday's pie (which could be yours, as you stick them deep into the pie), I would rather go at those who shifted things around instead. EL has good odds of being a wolf, and it could be that his packmates panicked when people started to follow my lead. Perhaps they hoped to alibi vote, and suddenly found EL in danger. However, there's also the possibility that wolves messed with the lynch to have the villagers believe that there were wolves in contention. Apart from that, I have no further qualms against running up EL.
 
And Taii, although I do agree with you, that there were wolf fingers in yesterday's pie (which could be yours, as you stick them deep into the pie), I would rather go at those who shifted things around instead. EL has good odds of being a wolf, and it could be that his packmates panicked when people started to follow my lead. Perhaps they hoped to alibi vote, and suddenly found EL in danger. However, there's also the possibility that wolves messed with the lynch to have the villagers believe that there were wolves in contention. Apart from that, I have no further qualms against running up EL.

Just going to say, I'm not stupid enough to call that much attention to myself if I were a wolf.
 
Moral of the story : Taii should had included Kiwi in his switches too to come up even better in Randy analysis. I expected that you, after so many WW games, after seeing AOK abuse this tactic, would know better. Perhaps you do know better, and have reasons to look less knowledgeable...

AOK didn't do vote switches to frontrunners. AOK did vote switches to *completely new* candidates. Completely different MO. And Taiisatai isn't AOK by a long shot.

Despite your best efforts, no. :p

You'll have to forgive me for trying :p


Jealous? :D

And Taii, although I do agree with you, that there were wolf fingers in yesterday's pie (which could be yours, as you stick them deep into the pie), I would rather go at those who shifted things around instead. EL has good odds of being a wolf, and it could be that his packmates panicked when people started to follow my lead. Perhaps they hoped to alibi vote, and suddenly found EL in danger. However, there's also the possibility that wolves messed with the lynch to have the villagers believe that there were wolves in contention. Apart from that, I have no further qualms against running up EL.

He was getting run up yesterday as well. If we run him up today we better actually kill him. And I prefer not running him up, to be honest.

The sort of thing AOK would say. And that didn't stop him from doing it as a baddie.

Taiisatai, if you didn't catch it yet, that's actually a compliment, coming from him :p
 
AOK didn't do vote switches to frontrunners. AOK did vote switches to *completely new* candidates. Completely different MO. And Taiisatai isn't AOK by a long shot.

Mr. Randy, you needn't point out that fact.

:laugh:
 
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I wonder why you are making that argument against me, instead of, for instance, Taiisatai. Certainly not because your packmates, right?

As far as I know, I can only vote one person at the time.
 
AOK didn't do vote switches to frontrunners. AOK did vote switches to *completely new* candidates. Completely different MO. And Taiisatai isn't AOK by a long shot.

AOK also did *mindless* vote shuffles. Yes, I could provide better examples, such as some personalities of EURO, but it's not as different as you think anyway. Regardless of that, the reason I brought it up is because it is a perfectly valid wolf tactic, as well as a perfectly valid villager tactic, under a few circumstances (and I have decided against spoiling this with examples). However, it does not allow you to withdraw such conclusions.

Taiisatai, if you didn't catch it yet, that's actually a compliment, coming from him

Well, if you're into hard drugs or psychotic behavior, yes... :p.
 
As far as I know, I can only vote one person at the time.

So, between someone who has done a switch presenting the reason "to screw with your minds", and someone that presented as reason "trying to get noob wolves exposed". you pick the second. Unless you have arguments to contradict the reasons presented, I don't see how you can justify such a vote as a villager vote.
 
So, between someone who has done a switch presenting the reason "to screw with your minds", and someone that presented as reason "trying to get noob wolves exposed". you pick the second. Unless you have arguments to contradict the reasons presented, I don't see how you can justify such a vote as a villager vote.

I can.
 
So, between someone who has done a switch presenting the reason "to screw with your minds", and someone that presented as reason "trying to get noob wolves exposed". you pick the second. Unless you have arguments to contradict the reasons presented, I don't see how you can justify such a vote as a villager vote.

Fist of all I must thank you for the information that you do not want to be hanged. It was an astonishing news to me!

As clarified, I am sure that both of you are suspects. That you are the writer and debater of the pack does not make you less of a suspect I am afraid. You and your flip-flop voting, hanging villagers in the last minutes of the vote and your nervous reaction when I, Fridrich a true gentleman, find that out will receive my vote today regardless of your panic for death. A true man meats heaven and the God's paradise on his death day, while wolves like you meat the little red man in the little hot world. And you will not be in my prayers, Mr. Wolf.
 
Fist of all I must thank you for the information that you do not want to be hanged. It was an astonishing news to me!

As clarified, I am sure that both of you are suspects. That you are the writer and debater of the pack does not make you less of a suspect I am afraid. You and your flip-flop voting, hanging villagers in the last minutes of the vote and your nervous reaction when I, Fridrich a true gentleman, find that out will receive my vote today regardless of your panic for death. A true man meats heaven and the God's paradise on his death day, while wolves like you meat the little red man in the little hot world. And you will not be in my prayers, Mr. Wolf.

I will meet Heaven and Paradise on my death day, but only after I sent the wolves packing to Hell and Eternal Torment. As for writer and debater, well, modern wolfare organizations require that every member had competence in several areas, such as debating, writing, analyzing, obfuscating, and other forms of psychological wolfare.
 
...some personalities of EURO...

:rofl:

modern wolfare organizations require that every member had competence in several areas, such as debating, writing, analyzing, obfuscating, and other forms of psychological wolfare.

I did a double major in obfuscation and specious reasoning - graduated with First Class honors, obviously. The electives in bombast and ridicule were time well spent, too.