Russian Bomber Weapons Loadouts (Updated!)

[nimitz98]

Tu-22M3 Backfire

Naval Strike: 2x Kh-22

Naval Strike(SR): 3x Kh-22

Naval Strike(LR): 10x Kh-15 (ten Kh-15s weigh about the same as one Kitchen!)

Standoff Naval Strike: 8x Kh-65SE

Standoff Land Attack: 8x Kh-555

Deploy Mines: 42x 500kg naval mines


Tu-160

Naval Strike: 24x Kh-15

Standoff Naval Strike: 12x Kh-65SE

Standoff Land Attack: 12x Kh-555


Tu-95

Standoff Naval Strike: 16x Kh-65SE

Standoff Land Attack: 16x Kh-555

ASW: 12x APR-3E


Hope this helps!

 

[unmerged(255172)]

Ok, here is what it looks like in the database right now:

Tu-22M3:

Naval Strike: 10x Kh-15
Naval Strike: 8x Kh-65
Land attack: 10x Kh-37 'Uran'

The Uran is quite speculative, but I don't think unfeasible. Adding the 8x Kh-555 option sounds sensible. And of course the darned kitchen.

Tu-160:

Naval strike: 24x Kh-15
Land attack: 12x Kh-555
Land attack: 24x KAB-500KR (bomb)

I don't see why not have a Kh-65SE option here, too.

Tu-95:

ASW: 12x APR-3E (+ 176 RGB-NM Sonobuoys)
Land attack: 12x Kh-555
Naval strike: 16x Kh-35
Mine drop: 50x MDM-5 Naval Mine

Kh-65SE: Hmm. We'll throw it in there, too, I guess. It's ridiculously overpowered.

(I know it's really the Tu-142 that's for ASW; well, I think it is better to have the flexibility of changing weapon loads than having separate aircraft even though that is more correct)

 

[nimitz98]

Kh-65SE overpowered? How so? Other than no Kitchens at the moment, this is great!

 

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JanH may I ask where you got the specs about the Kh-555 from?
I havent seen any specs of it and not a single picture!

 

[unmerged(255172)]

Jane's isn't very hotlinkable, but e.g. here. I think most of the problem is in the naming of the Kh-55 family. From what I understand, the Kh-555 is the model that the Russian armed forces are currently going for with their conventional LR cruise missiles (it will probably change next week, but we have deadlines to adhere to).

 

[nimitz98]

Kh-65SE overpowered? How so? Other than no Kitchens at the moment, this is great!

bumpo

 

[unmerged(255172)]

Kh-65SE overpowered? How so?

I just think game-play wise. You have 4 or more bombers. You get into range to fire. We have 40-50 missiles in the air. That's pretty much game over, right?

In a game, super-weapons should always have a good counter that a skillful player can use to stop it. In reality (and therefor, NWAC), we risk having a pvp situation where the winner will be the player whose missiles reach the target first.

Obviously, you may stop a 40-50 missile attack by dedicating all your fighters to expend their AA missiles (and the SAMs will mop of the rest), but then you have lost the air superiority battle.

 

[nimitz98]

Well, in the live-streaming the Aegis SAM system seemed underpowered. Btw is that the Kh-65SE you have for one of the Backfire NS loadouts?

 

[unmerged(255172)]

Btw is that the Kh-65SE you have for one of the Backfire NS loadouts?

Yes, it is. Problem is, from what it appears, that 1) the SE can't target naval units; 2) it never made it into service.

Going a bit back and forth on these missiles, as you can clearly see.

 

[nimitz98]

Yes, it is. Problem is, from what it appears, that 1) the SE can't target naval units; 2) it never made it into service.

Going a bit back and forth on these missiles, as you can clearly see.

Well, it CAN target ships. http://www.deagel.com/Anti-Ship-Missiles/Kh-65SE_a001025004.aspx

And according to Wikipedia it has not NOT made it into service... So it still might make it.

 

[unmerged(255172)]

In that case, we've gotten it right anyway. Damn I hate all those conflicting sources. Maybe I should just call the Russian navy and ask them?

 

[nimitz98]

In fact, the Kh-65SE is a dedicated anti-ship missile.

 

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In fact, the Kh-65SE is a dedicated anti-ship missile.

Yes, it also is that in my database. I should have sourced it better, so I would not be confused again

 

[ikalugin]

You should also notice instalation of Sizler variants instead of Kh65. For strategic mission Kh101/102 would be used (aka red carrots). Also Yahont is expected to be fielded.

 

[nimitz98]

You should also notice instalation of Sizler variants instead of Kh65. For strategic mission Kh101/102 would be used (aka red carrots). Also Yahont is expected to be fielded.

Hmm, Onyx and Sizzler would certainly bring the anti-ship capabilities of Russian bombers into the modern era.

 

[ikalugin]

Well you can use those, but Kh32 is still pretty damn awesome. And yes it has 1000 kg or so of warhead and 600 km or so range XD.

 

[nimitz98]

Well, thre is not much info on the Kh-32, is there?

 

[ikalugin]

Well, thre is not much info on the Kh-32, is there?

Depends. There is plenty if you look for it, but it is either in russian, or for private use. This is partially to the stupid level of official secrecy in Russia.

 

[nimitz98]

Depends. There is plenty if you look for it, but
it is either in russian, or for private use. This is partially to the stupid level of official secrecy in Russia.

If you have them (and it isn't treason to give them out!) a set of specs would be nice.

 

[nimitz98]

Anyway, the problem is not whether or not Russian bombers will carrying the Kh-101, but the lack of exact specifications for the missile. In the case of the sizzler and onyx, there is absolutely no information ATM that suggests any bomber will carry this weapons.