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So what are we doing? Pushing on with the rule change, without the rule change, or re-rolling?

Bah. The rule change was made after a number of orders were sent in. Personally, I'm for re-rolling under an altered setup.

Just let the game run. Once the roles are assigned, the GM must reduce himself to be a slave of the player's orders.
 
GM Anouncement

Let's get things off on a better foot, shall we?

All players shall be assigned a new role in a setup different from the current one. As one of the wolf packs successfully guessed a lot of the current one, I shall reveal that much to all so you go into the new setup on a level playing field:

Two packs of five werewolves each. No sorceror, no cultists. Each pack had two of one kind of wolf and three of the other. Each pack had a hunter, a brutal, and three sorcerous powers.


Further Anouncement

The RP voting rule is dead. Too much work given I'm scrambling to get the core game working.
 
Out.
 
You should at least have the courtesy to reveal what would happen on night 0 and who had what role.

I've been having an extensive PM game the ENTIRE day. I've been setting up a network and a strategy. This is really unfair.
 
You should at least have the courtesy to reveal what would happen on night 0 and who had what role.

I've been having an extensive PM game the ENTIRE day. I've been setting up a network and a strategy. This is really unfair.

Certainly. Both seers scanned drxav, who was sleeping with the_hdk, and thus had their scans wasted under the new rule or an ironclad JL under the old. esemesas had his GA protection on Najs, EURO had his on Cakravarti. Falc was a wolf, not a third GA. I'm not that crazy. Incidentily, Falc had a standing Brutal order on drxav.

The wolf pack were going to hunt Boris, an unclaimed apprentice.
 
Two GAs? Mein Gott...
 
You really thought I'd fall for it Falc ? Who do you think I am ?

Who were these idiot seers ?

Not really sure because I just checked all my PMs at once, but I think Falc's reaction was based off the old rules, where it would make sense to go out of our way to kill you early.
 
You really thought I'd fall for it Falc ? Who do you think I am ?

Who were these idiot seers ?

don qvixote and Adamus. I'm not sure they were online after the rule change.

Two GAs? Mein Gott...

No blessed, no doctor, large packs. That said, I was uncertain about it.
 
Falc wouldn't get very far with this. I was in contact with EUROO as a GA.

Falc contacted me as a GA so I guessed one was lying. I asked EUROO to protect Cak and Falc to protect Tigerkid, and I slept with HDK (he was hunted night 0 last game so he wasn't likely to be tonight). All I needed was to see who would die. In case of no death I'd have slept with either Cak or Tigerkid and asked EUROO and Falc to protect some other people. There would have been a hunt on one of these, since Falc could've been not hunting on night 0, but hunting on night 1. I had planned to scan Falc on night 1 and scan EUROO on night 2, to double check. By day 3 one of them would have been outed (in that case Falc) and the brutal order would've been a waste since the JL was formed.

That, is what I call a plan.



Anyways, I'm really pissed Kiwi, and won't thank you for this. It could've been an interesting game. I won't play your next game out of being pissed off.
 
Anyways, I'm really pissed Kiwi, and won't thank you for this. It could've been an interesting game. I won't play your next game out of being pissed off.

It would have been great for you. It would have made the game a complete waste of time for at least 20 other people, including the GM. And I'm pissed off I wasn't told in advance about the broken rule.

Can I have confirmation of who is out before I send out new roles? EURO and drxav?
 
That you say. There were so many ways I could mess up. There were so many ways the wolves could come out of this with a plan. You cannot unreward thinking ahead. If the wolves are too stupid to figure a plan then it's their fault.

What's coming next ? Suppose your 2 seers scan each other on night 0. Will you restart the game then?

I just played smart and I feel it's unfair I'm being punished for it.
 
I'll wait for the next one, thanks.
 
I can't remember what reis was, but it wasn't a wolf. I think he was a plain villager, or maybe a minor trait.