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Well said Monster, it is the reason they are the only pre-orders I ever get anymore. Everything else I can wait for a Steam sale. I look forward to more info Johan!
 
If this is a serious Napoleonic game then no you will not.

Well, it is a game, the British could loose a Traflagar scale battle to the French, and be ripe for the picking for someone playing Denmark. Hehe. After all the Danish fleet was the third largest in the world, after Britain and France. Only after the fleet was taken in 1807 were they not. So in a game that can have many outcomes, why not? :)
 
Sounds cool... but why start in 1805? It seems a bit late. You can get 5 years more by making it start 1st Jan 1800. (that's only ~1.5 months after Napoleon seized power).
 
Once again I highlight, the game needs few, decisive battles instead of dozens of mini battles (like in EU3)

Do you realise that your link pretty much confirms kstanb's post? ;) (Or maybe I just misunderstand you and that was your intent?)
106 battles and sieges over the course of ~20 years leads to an average of 5-6 battles a year. In EU3 I usually fight a lot more than that in a month when I'm at war.
 
Do you realise that your link pretty much confirms kstanb's post? ;) (Or maybe I just misunderstand you and that was your intent?)
106 battles and sieges over the course of ~20 years leads to an average of 5-6 battles a year. In EU3 I usually fight a lot more than that in a month when I'm at war.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Battles_of_the_Napoleonic_Wars

200+ "battles".

One list has 106 battles, another 200+. What is the deciding cutoff?

Interesting side note: There were ~7,000 "engagements" in the four-year American Civil War. (Different war, different era, sure.)

Also: warring was not continuous during the ~20 years of the "Napoleonic Wars". There were extended periods of peace in those ~20 years.

It all hinges on the definitions of "battle" and "mini battle" (and "siege", "raid", "ambush", "skirmish", etc.), and how we perceive and categorize the abstracted "combat" in these games, doesn't it?
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Battles_of_the_Napoleonic_Wars

200+ "battles".

One list has 106 battles, another 200+. What is the deciding cutoff?

Interesting side note: There were ~7,000 "engagements" in the four-year American Civil War. (Different war, different era, sure.)

Also: warring was not continuous during the ~20 years of the "Napoleonic Wars". There were extended periods of peace in those ~20 years.

It all hinges on the definitions of "battle" and "mini battle" (and "siege", "raid", "ambush", "skirmish", etc.), and how we perceive and categorize the abstracted "combat" in these games, doesn't it?

The second list is really just a better more complete version of the first one, except that it omits major battles prior to 1803.

The Greenhill Napoleonic Wars Data Book lists over 2000 major engagements, battles and siege, although that includes the whole Revolutionary Wars (but not closely related conflicts like the Finnish War).
 
Sounds really interesting - but please don't release with any Steam association.

What do you mean by no steam association? Steam is what gives them there player base, not to mention with no boxed versions and little publicity this would cut there sales by huge margins, plus Most people I know on steam Only by digital games through steam, as while there service can be dilatory it is probably the easiest to use and the safest.
 
The eagle is not just the symbol for America. It's the symbol of Rome, which is why it was taken by so many people wanting to improve their prestige, including Napoleon's empire.
 
If you also

  • beyond a single grand campaign, provide shorter duration scenarios from important historical starting points (so that we can, for example, play just the War of the Third Coalition, just the War of the Fourth Coalition, etc.)
  • uphold the high standards of CK II (production values, QA, etc.; I refuse to buy any more buggy, beta-stage, unfinished works-in-progress!)
then this game will have great appeal for me. Count me very interested.


If Paradox's handling of Manga Mundi, which wasn't even developed in-house, is anything to go by I don't think you should be concerned about getting a beta-game like in the past.
 
Indeed, recent history would suggest the oposite. Very good releases for the past few games.
 
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When Napoleon came back from his Elba exile they used the term "the Eagle has landed", 154 years before the moon landing...

His son "Napoleon II" was nicknamed "l'Aiglon" or Eaglet.

Also both Prussia, Russia and Austria used eagles in their coat of arms.