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not sure why but the Empress of Byzans (after she won the throne in a revolt against her younger brother) married regularily to a lowborn character in my observed game ... so right now her lowborn daughter is hair to Byzantine Empire :D

other interesting things as of yet ... Ælfwine Knytling managed to win the english throne which have been constantly flipping between de Normandie and Godwin since then. and Leon/Galicia and Narvarra/Castille have nearly completed the reconquestia (with Narvarra also conquering a good bite of North Africa (present day Algier pretty much)). HRE is currently busy HW'ing their way though a stalemated civil warring Fatimid successor state ... and Seljuk have managed to reconquer Persia after losing it to decadence once
 
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not sure why but the Empress of Byzans (after she won the throne in a revolt against her younger brother) married regularily to a lowborn character in my observed game ... so right now her lowborn daughter is hair to Byzantine Empire :D

other interesting things as of yet ... Ælfwine Knytling managed to win the english throne which have been constantly flipping between de Normandie and Godwin since then. and Leon/Galicia and Narvarra/Castille have nearly completed the reconquestia (with Narvarra also conquering a good bite of North Africa (present day Algier pretty much)). HRE is currently busy HW'ing their way though a stalemated civil warring Fatimid successor state ... and Seljuk have managed to reconquer Persia after losing it to decadence once
Hmm that's interesting, my Ælfwine Knytling took the throne also as seen in an earlier post. He was overthrown though, and a couple of usurpers later, yet another Yngling has the throne. Interesting playthrough you have there :p, the factions system has utterly destroyed the concept of stability and makes it very difficult to rule without a good power base. For example, in Scotland the Dunkelds almost always get overthrown or suffer revolts in my playthrough. Atm, Mael-Snechtai has picked up the pieces and has taken the throne, jailing Gospatric and revoking a couple of provinces, shifting his capital to edinburgh.
Still confuses me how Lulach and Mael-Snechtai arent son/grandson of Macbeth, since that seems somewhat anachronistic especially since Mael-snechtai is a claimant, when he is barely (ingame) related to Macbeth.
 
Still confuses me how Lulach and Mael-Snechtai arent son/grandson of Macbeth, since that seems somewhat anachronistic especially since Mael-snechtai is a claimant, when he is barely (ingame) related to Macbeth.
Lulach was MacBeth's stepson and that was enough for his supporters to put him on the throne, and that is why Máel-Snechtai has a claim. Ingame I think it's basically handled that Lulach and therefore Máel-Snechtai, are the next in line of his dynasty. Same thing happens if William de Normandie's sons all die, William of Eu becomes next inline as the oldest male relative.

I do like it when Máel-Snechtai becomes king though, he's a proper Scot, unlike Malcolm Canmore's Scots-Norman descendants.
 
The problem with Ælfwine Knytling is that he's a bastard and therefore unable to continue his dynasty. What happened when he became king? Did he marry matrilineally? Also, how did he become king? I assume it was a faction, but he should start in the court of the count (duke) of Toulouse.
 
The problem with Ælfwine Knytling is that he's a bastard and therefore unable to continue his dynasty. What happened when he became king? Did he marry matrilineally? Also, how did he become king? I assume it was a faction, but he should start in the court of the count (duke) of Toulouse.
In my playthrough he did marry matrilineally, but when i took control of him to experiment i found that the Knytling dynasty has little to no prestige, and Ælfwine can't really marry anyone special, due to his bastardy & prestige. Shame he isn't a legit bastard by default. I used cheats to change him to legit bastard ingame, and now he has produced a few sons through a patrilineal marriage with Emma Capet. To me the pure bastardy thing is ridiculous, in reality a bastard was a bastard, whether his father recognised him or not, and plenty of bastards formed their own respectable families (Fitz bastard lines of Anglo-norman nobles continue into the modern day). Until cadet dynasties are added (if ever) I really think all bastard children should be able to form their own family lines without going matrilineal. Ælfwine Knytling is a great example of how a potential dynastical restoration is wasted.
 
Yeah, I agree. I actually submitted that character for inclusion and mentioned that he should probably have the 'legit_bastard' trait on the basis that he was from a Danish royal family and all of their bastards are legitimate in game terms.

It's a shame he can't be made king via a faction, as it would be awesome to continue Canute's line with him. It is correct that he start in Toulouse, though, as he was an abbot there.
 
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not sure why but the Empress of Byzans (after she won the throne in a revolt against her younger brother) married regularily to a lowborn character in my observed game ... so right now her lowborn daughter is hair to Byzantine Empire :D

other interesting things as of yet ... Ælfwine Knytling managed to win the english throne which have been constantly flipping between de Normandie and Godwin since then. and Leon/Galicia and Narvarra/Castille have nearly completed the reconquestia (with Narvarra also conquering a good bite of North Africa (present day Algier pretty much)). HRE is currently busy HW'ing their way though a stalemated civil warring Fatimid successor state ... and Seljuk have managed to reconquer Persia after losing it to decadence once

What was the heir's eventual dynasty?
 
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I mean it makes sense why now (I purposefully culture shifted to Andalusian to form Andalusia and since Andalusia isn't supposed to be christian) but it freaked me out when it happened (I don't have Islam DLC you see)
 
From the same as the succesful Castile:
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We see that Castille have formed Hispania, and France have formed Francia.
But watch what happens to the HRE when we switch to Direct Vassals mode...
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I have no idea how Bohemia got that big (I think it might be from holy warring inside the Empire when I mended the schism) or how it lost the HRE crown, or why it ain't independent.
 

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seem to remember someone commenting on that if you lose the Emperor crown due to a faction, you still keep all the direct vassals you'd still be able to control ...