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The 3 no-hunts:

1: Blessed Gigau
2: No Order from Luftwaffe as the U-Boats died
3: GA'ed Gigau.

Tonight would have made it a 4th as Telesien would have hit a GA'ed Johho... :)
 
Rendap said:
The 3 no-hunts:

1: Blessed Gigau
2: No Order from Luftwaffe as the U-Boats died
3: GA'ed Gigau.

Tonight would have made it a 4th as Telesien would have hit a GA'ed Johho... :)
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Bloody hell, I am so unlucky that I can't even believe it...

In my defense, I was convinced, that there are two GAs and that they take turns protecting the seer, so I was hoping to hit one of them instead first.
 
telesien said:
Thanks :)

And now I can say it. Those two empty hunts were both on you. I simply knew you were the seer :)
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Wow... got lucky there...

I know Marty protected me on the second hunt. Wonder where the first protection came from....

Emu'd

 
Marty was the Guardian angel?

Should've lynched ya. :p

I was in touch with Joho, and he acted as the link between Me and the other People

A fine game.
 
It was pretty clear to me gigau was seer, but that was only because I was told to protect him immediately after subbing in, and johho didn't have any real priorities for me to protect after that. Never really tried analysing your posts once I knew you were JL.

Well played to johho and gigau (and possibly Cody, I wasn't in touch so I don't know the extent of his involvement) for running a very efficient JL this game. I still hate powerful JL's on principle, but this one didn't ruin the game totally. Still want them nerfed more...even though it was my in-game duty to protect gigau, objectively I think it's bad for the game that he was so damned hard to kill.


Thanks for GM'ing, Rendap!
 
gigau said:


Wow... got lucky there...

I know Marty protected me on the second hunt. Wonder where the first protection came from....

Emu'd
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You didn't know you were blessed? Anyway I am kind of surprised you didn't scan me. In fact my early game kind of aimed at being a bit suspicious to attract scan, but not enough to gather votes.

BTW blessed seer seems like a big advantage for the good guys, I wonder what was meant to balance this out.
 
telesien said:
You didn't know you were blessed? Anyway I am kind of surprised you didn't scan me. In fact my early game kind of aimed at being a bit suspicious to attract scan, but not enough to gather votes.

BTW blessed seer seems like a big advantage for the good guys, I wonder what was meant to balance this out.
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Exactly what I'm talking about. Blessed seer and GA shouldn't both be in the game. It's not just a question of balance for me, too, there shouldn't be players that are so hard to kill (nothing personal, gig ;) )
 
gigau said:
To both... how ?
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I was about 50% convinced when the first hunt returned no result and pretty much 100% when the second one failed too. Before that I didn't suspect you. You kept too high profile and I targeted you, because you were getting close to me, but wasn't close enough to make it suspicious. But I was convinced, that given enough time, you will eventually get me and get others to join in.
 
gigau said:
To both... how ?
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Initially you considered me a good candidate for lynching (almost pushing for it). Once I was scanned your attitude towards me changed completely.
I didn't see similar changes with other players. The only explanation for that change was that you should be the seer.

Ok, it's time now for me to ask a question ?
Who did you scan and in which order ?
 
telesien said:
You didn't know you were blessed? Anyway I am kind of surprised you didn't scan me. In fact my early game kind of aimed at being a bit suspicious to attract scan, but not enough to gather votes.

BTW blessed seer seems like a big advantage for the good guys, I wonder what was meant to balance this out.
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2 Brutals, Scanning Cultists, Cursed Hunter, Cursed Apprentice as a wedge in the JL. 2 of those as a instant kill on the seer, 2 of them to find the seer.

Balance wise though, I see your point about the game being skewed in favour of the goodies. I don't believe that it is as heavy as you, but it comes down to time really.

Time for the seer to build a JL while the wolves snipe for him - And time for the Wolves to hide.

The interesting thing here is that Gigau actually scanned both Reis and Lord Dalek, just as he was converted into a wolf. And managed to orchestrate 2 lynches without outing them. Kudos Gigau and Johho!
 
Additionally, it was a bit interesting to see how the packs just plain disintegrated. I don't think I've ever seen a big where the village just sniffed out the wolves as well as this.
 
Lord Dalek wasn't turned. He was the Cultist. He converted to a wolf as the last original wolf of the U-Boats died (lynch) and was scanned the same update (night)
 
Rendap said:
2 Brutals, Scanning Cultists, Cursed Hunter, Cursed Apprentice as a wedge in the JL. 2 of those as a instant kill on the seer, 2 of them to find the seer.

Balance wise though, I see your point about the game being skewed in favour of the goodies. I don't believe that it is as heavy as you, but it comes down to time really.

Time for the seer to build a JL while the wolves snipe for him - And time for the Wolves to hide.

The interesting thing here is that Gigau actually scanned both Reis and Lord Dalek, just as he was converted into a wolf. And managed to orchestrate 2 lynches without outing them. Kudos Gigau and Johho!
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I didn't question the balance you set. I was just curious what decisions you made to offset this specific advantage, that is indeed big.

And yes, this game didn't go well for us wolves. Sorry again, Ekhuush and Eternaly_lost. I know I suck as wolf and turn against packmates way too often...
 
marty99 said:
Nice. That was...nice.


EDIT: Props for my earlier incarnation, Adamus, for suspecting telesien from the start. He deserves more credit than he got this game.
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Pretty gutted i had to sub out now.

Well played though guys!
 
telesien said:
You didn't know you were blessed? Anyway I am kind of surprised you didn't scan me. In fact my early game kind of aimed at being a bit suspicious to attract scan, but not enough to gather votes.

BTW blessed seer seems like a big advantage for the good guys, I wonder what was meant to balance this out.
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Nope i didn't know i was blessed. On hindsight, maybe it was too much... although i'm not going to complain having survived :p

You had attracted my attention early on, indeed, but there were always distractions... My scans were (if memory serves me right for exact order) :

- night 0 : the_hdk
- night 1 : Reis - that was pure luck
- night 2 : Johho - was looking for a potential villager, to play as mouthpiece of seer with either one... ended up talking to both
- night 3 : Lord Dalek
- night 4 : AVN
- night 5 : Adamus/Marty
- night 6 : Comm Cody

- night 7 : telesien, backup Slinky, backup Cliges
Cliges i felt could be goodie at start (helped with Enkhuush), and turned on first no hunt (started tiptoeing).


telesien said:
I was about 50% convinced when the first hunt returned no result and pretty much 100% when the second one failed too. Before that I didn't suspect you. You kept too high profile and I targeted you, because you were getting close to me, but wasn't close enough to make it suspicious. But I was convinced, that given enough time, you will eventually get me and get others to join in.
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That i prefer.... the high profile was also to avoid wolf suspicion.
 
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