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On the other hand, he was just JL mouthpiece. Seer was Enkhuush and then Kiwi...

1/ they still had the information so it wouldn't have been lost

2/ as it was Pope's first game (or nearly), it was the responsibility of the seer to coach him on the matter


The fact you are loud doesn't mean you are more right than Marty... especially when you were two villagers bickering. the fact that he died after that made you a likely suspect. As i said, i've been lynched for less than that. ;)
 
I am glad you made it gigau!

Thanks for GMing, johho. I was really curious to see how this one would turn out. It was also going to be a surprise for my ex-packmates to see if I had a cursed hunt, and who the lucky target was.

Red pack ruined their chances. When we were (briefly) in collaboration, they suggested gigau as my next hunt. I didn't tell them that I had flipped him in the hope that it would help his chances; I went so far as to lie that he was protected, and they apparently bought it.
 
Well played everyone, this was an interesting game. Congratulations to the winners, although I don't like the fact that the only remaining wolf was a sub. Not that that was gigau's fault, of course, but it is kinda hard for the village to analyse people who have no voting record.


Thanks for GM'ing, johho! Another fascinating game :)

THE_SPLIT said:
Sorry but that is BS gigau (granted the last few posts were made in good humor by me). As a villager JL it is super popes duty to get the village to lynch CONFIRMED baddies. At the point that a seer/someone claiming to be a seer reaches out to you to do an outing you need to determine if you trust that person or not. If you do you should proceed to do it right away and not wait. What would happen if Super pope was hunted on the day of my lynch? He had valuable information that he failed to deliver on a timely basis, and as the result GREAT SPLIT was lynched….. I also do not like how you, villagers, listed to marty but not to the GREAT SPLIT…. HOW DID YOU EVEN DARE VOTE THE GREAT SPLIT? This is the behavior that caused village to lose….
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Because I had previously delivered wolves, I killed deo, suspected Paendrag literally from the first day and was crucial in getting Cymsdale lynched.
I agree the outed wolves should have been lynched though, although I also say it was a bad idea of Kiwi not to scan THE_SPLIT, with the amount of attention he was getting (admittedly I caused a great deal of it) making sure of his allegiance should have been a greater priority. And you must admit there was great reason to suspect you were at least a good suspect, if not the best by the time you were lynched. You outright accused me - nay, openly said I was a wolf, you blamed the Nautilu stunt squarely on me.




One more thing: I hated being called reckless in this game. I done three things to warrant it: trying to get Paen lynched in a massive switch on the first day - he later turned out to be a wolf. I created a tie to try and save the GA claimant who was in fact the GA (and had the fortunate side effect of killing the first wolf), and because of an honest communications slip-up me and Adamus accidentally created another tie. None of these caused any lasting harm to the village, yet villagers looking for lazy arguments went around calling me reckless. Many of the same people, amazingly, who actually voted Lord Dalek because of a supposed crovax. The irony is astonishing.
 
marty99 said:
One more thing: I hated being called reckless in this game. I done three things to warrant it: trying to get Paen lynched in a massive switch on the first day - he later turned out to be a wolf. I created a tie to try and save the GA claimant who was in fact the GA (and had the fortunate side effect of killing the first wolf), and because of an honest communications slip-up me and Adamus accidentally created another tie. None of these caused any lasting harm to the village, yet villagers looking for lazy arguments went around calling me reckless. Many of the same people, amazingly, who actually voted Lord Dalek because of a supposed crovax. The irony is astonishing.
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I didn't think you were being reckless; it was just part of my act.

EDIT: who set up nautilu?

We hunted him, but assumed that the other pack had him do the fake outing. The reds told me that they thought we did it.
 
marty99 said:
Well played everyone, this was an interesting game. Congratulations to the winners, although I don't like the fact that the only remaining wolf was a sub. Not that that was gigau's fault, of course, but it is kinda hard for the village to analyse people who have no voting record.
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Well, in this case, OY was a villager all the way. I subbed in on day 7, and was turned on night 9... so for the first half of the game, there wasn't much to want to analyse.... although i get what you mean.


marty99 said:
Quoted for emphasis. I really want to know the answer to this!
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I knew you didn't pull the stunt in a second game in a row... somebody tried to frame you. I honestly believed it was Split, at least until he turned out to be a villager...
 
The best part of that was we knew that we had nothing to fear from nautilu's professed "hunter trait", having found out from our cultist that marty was the hunter and it's unlikely a game would have more than one.
 
THE_SPLIT said:
Ohh look zombie Oy wins the game........... Ohh what a surprise, ohhhh lets lynch split because is active....
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Let's lynch SPLIT because his high activity is actively harming the village by causing villagers to bark up the crazy tree and letting wolves do whatever they like amongst the madness. I actually requested that you be tied with Strange, to cut down on suspects without wasting a scan.

gigau said:
Wow... didn't think i'd make it, being turned by the last and outed Yellow wolf, with a nearly full pack of Reds still present !

I really expected Funnyman was a Cultist, given there were two Yellow Cultists... i was sure he had done a fake confession as a plot :p
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You would have been my 6th scan :p

Cliges said:
The best part of that was we knew that we had nothing to fear from nautilu's professed "hunter trait", having found out from our cultist that marty was the hunter and it's unlikely a game would have more than one.
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Games usually have more than one hunter.



I said I probably could have dodged that lynch. If I hadn't given up on the game, what I would have done is asked Dalek to set leader orders to lynch a) reis b) Funnyman if someone other than reis was lynched. Combined with my plotter trait it would make it reis (3), Kiwi (2), Funnyman (1), and Funnyman would be dead. What would have happened to the hunt that night, GM?

In any case, by that stage I was sick of the endless string of wolves and the failed attempts to find out if leader orders were set. The game was no longer high on my priorities, so essentially I gave up and just left it to whatever would happen.
 
Capt. Kiwi said:
Let's lynch SPLIT because his high activity is actively harming the village by causing villagers to bark up the crazy tree and letting wolves do whatever they like amongst the madness. I actually requested that you be tied with Strange, to cut down on suspects without wasting a scan.



You would have been my 6th scan :p



Games usually have more than one hunter.



I said I probably could have dodged that lynch. If I hadn't given up on the game, what I would have done is asked Dalek to set leader orders to lynch a) reis b) Funnyman if someone other than reis was lynched. Combined with my plotter trait it would make it reis (3), Kiwi (2), Funnyman (1), and Funnyman would be dead. What would have happened to the hunt that night, GM?

In any case, by that stage I was sick of the endless string of wolves and the failed attempts to find out if leader orders were set. The game was no longer high on my priorities, so essentially I gave up and just left it to whatever would happen.
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You had to guess I had a cloak, first. I assume the hunt would be the yellow pack's, if they had actually bothered to set a bloody standing order at all...
 
I didn't need to guess you had the cloak. I only had to allow for the possibility, which I had. You had brought it up yourself before, and somebody had made rule inquiries about it after game start. The same setup would also cover if somebody unvoted you and voted me to make a tie.

Ultimately I couldn't be bothered. I'd previously attempted to setup leader lynch orders with no response, and I wasn't prepared to wait around PMing. The win wasn't important enough to spend any more time on it.
 
Of course it crossed my mind. I was getting a bit worried towards the end of hdk's time playing, though Dalek's approach when he subbed in reassured me. Ultimately I was prepared to gamble on them being villagers because the wolf packs made no attempt whatsoever to control the lynch when they should have had the numbers.

But having no way to be sure of anything and essentially having to trust to luck was one of the things that made me lose interest. I could have setup leader lynches to control some outcomes, but then I'd need to set up plotter orders to control others, and get up early to size up whether I needed to change plans based on how votes fell overnight, and have to hope the right people were around to PM... too much work.
 
Capt. Kiwi said:
Let's lynch SPLIT because his high activity is actively harming the village by causing villagers to bark up the crazy tree and letting wolves do whatever they like amongst the madness. I actually requested that you be tied with Strange, to cut down on suspects without wasting a scan.
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How dare you even say things like that? You think because you rolled a role in a game that gives you power or a position of power you can abuse people? You and Marty are really something...... trying to lynch an active player, because you are jealous that he plays better than everyone but Bash, Hax, and the third great player. You actively went inactive, while I acutally analyzed the game and eneded up so all the wolfs vote me - you know why? because in any other village where the seer was not a bully this would have lead to their death. They showed their true face...... But no, you choose Super Pope the same way marty choose lord dalek to meta Split because you do not like him as he is the best player after Hax, Bash and the third great player.....
 
THE_SPLIT said:
How dare you even say things like that? You think because you rolled a role in a game that gives you power or a position of power you can abuse people? You and Marty are really something...... trying to lynch an active player, because you are jealous that he plays better than everyone but Bash, Hax, and the third great player. You actively went inactive, while I acutally analyzed the game and eneded up so all the wolfs vote me - you know why? because in any other village where the seer was not a bully this would have lead to their death. They showed their true face...... But no, you choose Super Pope the same way marty choose lord dalek to meta Split because you do not like him as he is the best player after Hax, Bash and the third great player.....
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Split. Stahp. Pleease...
 
reis91 said:
You had to guess I had a cloak, first. I assume the hunt would be the yellow pack's, if they had actually bothered to set a bloody standing order at all...
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There were standing orders in the event that no one sent in a hunt for the day. It would have been GM's call if these also applied to unexpectedly getting to hunt because the other pack was gone.
 
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