I didn't say I would reject precisely that team. The team I said I'd reject - your initial suggestion - had Bentley on it. This team didn't.
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There's a case to be made for it on both sides-but I'd rather not change the rules after we've started.
I think so. Everyone bar Falc is counted, and he said he would vote privately.
The point of private voting is to try and cut closer to what is known and seen in RL games.
That is, you know if and when a player has cast a vote by him placing his vote card face down on the table.
Thus, you really should state publically that you have voted by PM.
You wish to appear undecided? Fine, then do not cast a vote yet.
Those should be, IMO, the boundaries of what's possible and what isn't.
What I don't really understand though, how does private voting help the resistance? I mean if we made everyone vote privately wouldn't we lose a source of analysis?
The result of the vote is given at the update, so no "information" is lost. I could see the merit for secret voting because then votes are not influenced by others. If spies see that a vote is going to be rejected for sure, they might decide to reject instead of support, etc.
That... actually makes a lot of sense...
Maybe we should try future games with only secret voting.
UPDATE
The team of citizen1oo1, jpr123, and Falc is REJECTED 5-5.
Approve: RepBentley, marty99, tamius23, Cymsdale, Falc
Reject: Xarkan, citizen1oo1, gliomarto, esemesas, jpr123
Falc voted via PM
jpr123 changed vote from support to reject by PM
Team is REJECTED (ties are rejected as per the rules)
That is one rejection out of a possible 5 this round.
tamius23 is the new leader and can propose a 3-person team when ready.
The team of citizen1oo1, jpr123, and Falc is REJECTED 5-5.
Approve: RepBentley, marty99, tamius23, Cymsdale, Falc
Reject: Xarkan, citizen1oo1, gliomarto, esemesas, jpr123
Falc voted via PM
jpr123 changed vote from support to reject by PM
Team is REJECTED (ties are rejected as per the rules)
That is one rejection out of a possible 5 this round.
tamius23 is the new leader and can propose a 3-person team when ready.
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Do I? You yourself were advocating needing more team proposals, especially early when the team is likely to succeed regardless of who is on it. I changed my mind after my original vote but I wanted to see who would vote for it if they thought it had a good chance of succeeding.
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Here jpr makes it clear he thinks that private votes are not shown in the update. If this were true, nobody would have known who had changed their vote. In reality, though:
Quite an unfortunate series of events for 'ol jaypee.
I'm not saying this definitely makes you a spy, but it does cast some significant suspicion. Your explanation makes sense to some degree, but it could just as easily be a hasty ad hoc justification.
I assume you're referring to myself? If I was a spy why would I not want to be on the team? If I was worried about there being another spy on it all I had to do was not sabotage it and problem solved. What did I possibly have to gain by rejecting it? All rejecting it does is give us more to analyse, so not exactly spy behaviour in my mind. But feel free to wildly speculate!
I am not convinced by jpr's explanation.
I propose the team
Tamius
Jpr
Falc
Because I think there are 2 spies on it and I want to see them squirm.
I propose the team
Tamius
Jpr
Falc
Because I think there are 2 spies on it and I want to see them squirm.
