i remmber those good old times of hoi2 vanilla when i was swarming everyithing with 100 doomstacks of tanks ^^
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BTW, thought I would mention a few previously specified details for those just joining:
- This is about a game I had about a month ago (game was over before I started posting).
- Only major Battles (or significant in any way) are included. It is not that there hasn't been that much fighting, but not that much that had any significant effect.
- Enjoy. Any suggestions, advice, input, comments ... are always welcome
- This is about a game I had about a month ago (game was over before I started posting).
- Only major Battles (or significant in any way) are included. It is not that there hasn't been that much fighting, but not that much that had any significant effect.
- Enjoy. Any suggestions, advice, input, comments ... are always welcome
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Just stumbled across this, really enjoy the way you put the updates together, very clear and a good variety of images. The British are active in a number of theatres just now, but Asia seems to be relatively quite. How well prepared are you for a Japanese attack?
Thank you
Asia/Oceania is currently protected by the Bhutan, Nepal, Australia and New Zealand.
Our hope was that the US would join as soon as the war with Japan started.
Strasbourg is attackable from four sides, meaning lots of enemies and they get a 30% multiple fronts bonus. If it falls, that exposes Chaumont, but only from one direction and the krauts have to cross a river and fight through a forest to get to it, don't worry too much.
Will building up infrastructure in troubled provinces speed the rate that the fortifications can be repaired? Also make sure you're up to date on province repair tech. Otherwise the only thing you can do , is make sure there is more firepower in each province, so they Germans run out of org before they can do too much damage to the forts. Maybe time to bring more of your boys home.
BTW Frenchie, 1939 INF in 1942? Still using Cavalry? Also not too sure the armoured car brigades are worth it.
Will building up infrastructure in troubled provinces speed the rate that the fortifications can be repaired? Also make sure you're up to date on province repair tech. Otherwise the only thing you can do , is make sure there is more firepower in each province, so they Germans run out of org before they can do too much damage to the forts. Maybe time to bring more of your boys home.
BTW Frenchie, 1939 INF in 1942? Still using Cavalry? Also not too sure the armoured car brigades are worth it.
True, we knew from the start that Strasbourg would be hard to hold on to. By this time, France used all of its IC on reinforcements and province repairs. The Germans attacked so often, that the French were unable to repair so fast.
From this point on I brought more troops (from Italy).
He hadn't had much focus on Upgrading. His army was really outdated. IIRC he had only produced infantries (without brigades). Is it possible that those inf-ac are something he starts with (otherwise I didn't notice him produce them). Yeah the cavalries are still there
(to be fair, I think one of those is mine. All of them are the starting ones though). We used them to get around fast (from one defending one province to another).
Well, just as your theatres are beginning to look secure, the Germans launch their greatest offensive yet. Are there any further British troops than can be diverted to the continent to patch the French lines, or even open another front against the Germans?
Yup, these guys were quite new to the game and to their respective countries, so you can see it's a "learning experience". Actually makes for a realistic war, rather than having the AI stumble from disaster to disaster at the hands of two human players. France could do with more IC by the look.
Have a look at this thread - from this post onward I discuss IC building for France prewar.
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...till-last!&p=15216398&viewfull=1#post15216398
My best effort was 160 base IC by September 1939, but that's a little extreme. Still, you can manage two or three rounds of Factory builds before war. Don't start any more factories after June 1938 elections, let the ones that are in progress finish, and as more and more ic becomes available start to upgrade your units and build new stuff. You can easily convert all of France's manpower into infantry divisions in the time left.
At the start of the game I take an axe to all the stuff I don't need however.
I'd probably disband the cavalry, AA brigades, AC brigades, submarines, convert the Destroyers to escorts. Trade all my airforce, tanks and better navy to UK, disband all level 1 and 2 tech ships, except perhaps the carriers. Make political/minister changes and build factories early on, then do a mass build of infantry and motorised infantry in the last year before war. Leave all the upgrading and reinforcing till 1939, no sense upgrading to stuff that's gonna become obsolete again. Don't start building Land Forts till advanced Construction engineering is researched , still gives plenty time to finish it before war starts.
Now as regard's France's current situation, if they are short of IC to upgrade, repair and reinforce quick enough, I'd think trading her navy and airforce to the UK right now and let them pay maintenance. Let the UK put 15 of the best battleships with 15 of the best cruisers into a really strong surface fleet, maybe with France's navy there is enough for two groups like that, and be done. Don't mix carriers or transports or subs in the "big gun" battlegroup, they have different firing distances and will just contribute a stacking penalty. Don't have more than 30 allied ships in any one sea zone or get a massive "over command max" penalty. As for your carriers, if they are level 3 or better, put them in their own battle group, but retreat from a naval battle if it starts getting into melee range. As for the level 1 & 2 carriers, they are too slow and will always get caught by Germany's battleships, and your fleet only moves as fast as the slowest ship. However, they can serve as escorts for your transports, along with some obsolete gun ships and cruisers.
Can the UK send free supplies and money to ease strain on France's industry?
Have a look at this thread - from this post onward I discuss IC building for France prewar.
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...till-last!&p=15216398&viewfull=1#post15216398
My best effort was 160 base IC by September 1939, but that's a little extreme. Still, you can manage two or three rounds of Factory builds before war. Don't start any more factories after June 1938 elections, let the ones that are in progress finish, and as more and more ic becomes available start to upgrade your units and build new stuff. You can easily convert all of France's manpower into infantry divisions in the time left.
At the start of the game I take an axe to all the stuff I don't need however.
I'd probably disband the cavalry, AA brigades, AC brigades, submarines, convert the Destroyers to escorts. Trade all my airforce, tanks and better navy to UK, disband all level 1 and 2 tech ships, except perhaps the carriers. Make political/minister changes and build factories early on, then do a mass build of infantry and motorised infantry in the last year before war. Leave all the upgrading and reinforcing till 1939, no sense upgrading to stuff that's gonna become obsolete again. Don't start building Land Forts till advanced Construction engineering is researched , still gives plenty time to finish it before war starts.
Now as regard's France's current situation, if they are short of IC to upgrade, repair and reinforce quick enough, I'd think trading her navy and airforce to the UK right now and let them pay maintenance. Let the UK put 15 of the best battleships with 15 of the best cruisers into a really strong surface fleet, maybe with France's navy there is enough for two groups like that, and be done. Don't mix carriers or transports or subs in the "big gun" battlegroup, they have different firing distances and will just contribute a stacking penalty. Don't have more than 30 allied ships in any one sea zone or get a massive "over command max" penalty. As for your carriers, if they are level 3 or better, put them in their own battle group, but retreat from a naval battle if it starts getting into melee range. As for the level 1 & 2 carriers, they are too slow and will always get caught by Germany's battleships, and your fleet only moves as fast as the slowest ship. However, they can serve as escorts for your transports, along with some obsolete gun ships and cruisers.
Can the UK send free supplies and money to ease strain on France's industry?
I'm sending "my best units" in the next chapter
Yes!! This was exactly my point with this AAR!
I've never had a game so similar to WW1
I told France to produce some IC at the start of the game, but he refused. I on the other hand had built some IC. By now I had armies in Norway, Italy, UK and France (Dunkerque, Lille, Valenciennes, Reims); while France was only present in Valenciennes, Reims, Chaumont and Mulhouse.
As you say, we are no experts in the game, but still we find it great because we learn so much from our mistakes.
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I want to say that those 2 lost territories where due to the game going out of sync.Normally AI waits a while to recover (strength and Org.) after a large attack. For some reason every time we reloaded (due to out of sync), although our armies where weak and our forts where gone, the Germans where able to attack again (1 hour later) as if nothing had happened (full strength and organization). Pretty weird!
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The arrival of those British tanks was a godsend, if the Germans capture Rheims a breakthrough seems possible.
As Cypvep has noted, this does seem to be very much like WW1 - its been a very tense conflict so far and I'm enjoying the break from 'regular' blitzkreig warfare.
There is one glaring difference from WW1; the Germans do not face an enemy in the East yet. Does this look likely to change?
As Cypvep has noted, this does seem to be very much like WW1 - its been a very tense conflict so far and I'm enjoying the break from 'regular' blitzkreig warfare.
There is one glaring difference from WW1; the Germans do not face an enemy in the East yet. Does this look likely to change?
The Hearts of Iron 2 Wiki site says not to build any industry as France. In my first game as France (HOI 2) I held the Germans in 1940, but ran into a similar problem with falling further and further behind on reinforcement on upgrade costs, till I got pushed off the continent in 1942.
What's the optimal division of labour in a UK & FR game vs AI Germany?
You could say, just have UK build the Navy and Airforce, and France only build army units. However , that leaves UK's manpower pool (which is larger than France's) unused, while France on its own does not have enough. So perhaps have the UK knock out a load of cheap INF divisions while pouring most industrial resources into the RN and RAF.
France builds
Land Forts
AA
Radar
Airbase
Infrastructure in front line provinces
Infantry
Motorised/Mechanised units
UK Builds
Navy
Airforce
Infantry
I Generally do 3 rounds of factories as France, have a panic build/upgrade in 1939 and 1940, when all IC is going on military units, then once the front is stabilised, I start to build more industry again to raise my TC. As my TC rises, I start to build more motorised/mechanised units, but since I have no free manpower, I have to disband a leg INF for every MOTO built. In 1940 the army is only 25% mechanised, by 1942 it's like 65% mechanised.
What's the optimal division of labour in a UK & FR game vs AI Germany?
You could say, just have UK build the Navy and Airforce, and France only build army units. However , that leaves UK's manpower pool (which is larger than France's) unused, while France on its own does not have enough. So perhaps have the UK knock out a load of cheap INF divisions while pouring most industrial resources into the RN and RAF.
France builds
Land Forts
AA
Radar
Airbase
Infrastructure in front line provinces
Infantry
Motorised/Mechanised units
UK Builds
Navy
Airforce
Infantry
I Generally do 3 rounds of factories as France, have a panic build/upgrade in 1939 and 1940, when all IC is going on military units, then once the front is stabilised, I start to build more industry again to raise my TC. As my TC rises, I start to build more motorised/mechanised units, but since I have no free manpower, I have to disband a leg INF for every MOTO built. In 1940 the army is only 25% mechanised, by 1942 it's like 65% mechanised.