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Well, Sweden WAS one if the Nations who defeated Napoleon at Waterloo, so I think they need to be a great power.
 
Well, Sweden WAS one if the Nations who defeated Napoleon at Waterloo, so I think they need to be a great power.

And so were plenty of German states...
 
Well, Sweden WAS one if the Nations who defeated Napoleon at Waterloo, so I think they need to be a great power.

ive never heard of any swedish troops even being part of the 100 days campaign.
 
ive never heard of any swedish troops even being part of the 100 days campaign.
well, I always readed and learned that the 3 Major powers who defeated Napoleon at Waterloo are Britain, Prussia And Sweden
 
wellington commanded dutch belgian german and british troops while Blucher commanded the prussians. Sweden fought in the previous campaign in 1813-14
 
I've never read any sources that show there were Swedes at Waterloo but that could be due to reading the wrong sources :)
Perhaps the Swedes fought at Waterloo the same way the British did at Leipzig?
 
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I've never read any sources that show there were Swedes at Waterloo but that could be due to reading the wrong sources :)
Perhaps the Swedes fought at Waterloo the same way the British did at Leipzig?
I have gone to the battlefield of Waterloo 3 times ( I live in Belgium) and the battle was been 'replayed' every time, There were people in Swedish uniforms, as well you receive a guide who told that Swedes fought in the battle.
 
well, I always readed and learned that the 3 Major powers who defeated Napoleon at Waterloo are Britain, Prussia And Sweden

Surely you mean the Dutch? I suppose there might have been a few Swedes there, campers complaining about the noise or something, but I'm pretty sure the closest Sweden got to Waterloo was the 1974 Eurovision. I don't think their numbers, if any, can be used as an argument for great power status. I think it has a lot more to do with the devs than the Battle of Waterloo.
 
I have gone to the battlefield of Waterloo 3 times ( I live in Belgium) and the battle was been 'replayed' every time, There were people in Swedish uniforms, as well you receive a guide who told that Swedes fought in the battle.

Certainly, but with whom? For what I do know, there was indeed swede on the filed, but 5 were in the middle guard, 1 was in first cuirasser regiment (killed during the fourth charge), and the last I did heard off simply went to pick up berries (usual occupation in swedden at thattime of the year), and never showed up in time ...

Swdden at that time was having other problems, such as relation with Norway and Danemark, and BErnadotte would not have battle french troops that close of France (was not Waterloo part of france years before? Would it be possible Bernadotte hoping to exchange a Throne in the snow against A throne in Paris????? ).

That a unit was trap there is possible, as if you check the list of the french officers at that time you will find one Venezualian Major (or maybe he was colonel). But does it made Venezuala a defeated country? I suppose you get my point?
 
In 1814 the swedish may have fought in the liberation of holland but i cant put my hands on an OOB that places them in any significant number at waterloo.
 
According to this site Sweden was a middling power ( In fact only just a great power, but it was one and fought in 1808 a war against Russia) http://www.napoleon-series.org/military/organization/Sweden/Army/Organization/c_swedisharmy.html

For one the swedes never took part of the battle of Waterloo, you must mean the dutch, and even they did, it wouldn't have been a reason to make them a great power. Also neither Denmark nor Sweden were great powers, merely "majors", Spain wasn't a great power either. But honestly at this time period, there wasn't a big power difference between Denmark and Sweden.

Best Economy: Denmark
Best Army: Sweden
Best Navy: Denmark
Most manpower: Sweden
Most ressources: Denmark
Most national land: Sweden
Most colonies: Denmark

and that list could go on forever, but the fact that Denmark has like a three times better start economy should help with the fact that they should be a 9th major IMO.
 
For one the swedes never took part of the battle of Waterloo, you must mean the dutch, and even they did, it wouldn't have been a reason to make them a great power. Also neither Denmark nor Sweden were great powers, merely "majors", Spain wasn't a great power either. But honestly at this time period, there wasn't a big power difference between Denmark and Sweden.

Best Economy: Denmark
Best Army: Sweden
Best Navy: Denmark
Most manpower: Sweden
Most ressources: Denmark
Most national land: Sweden
Most colonies: Denmark

and that list could go on forever, but the fact that Denmark has like a three times better start economy should help with the fact that they should be a 9th major IMO.

As before said, 9 great powers is not balanced.
 
For one the swedes never took part of the battle of Waterloo, you must mean the dutch, and even they did, it wouldn't have been a reason to make them a great power. Also neither Denmark nor Sweden were great powers, merely "majors", Spain wasn't a great power either. But honestly at this time period, there wasn't a big power difference between Denmark and Sweden.

Best Economy: Denmark
Best Army: Sweden
Best Navy: Denmark
Most manpower: Sweden
Most ressources: Denmark
Most national land: Sweden
Most colonies: Denmark

and that list could go on forever, but the fact that Denmark has like a three times better start economy should help with the fact that they should be a 9th major IMO.
They did, I thought they had even 2 regiments! I am sure they fought, according to my history books and various other sources they did (the guide in Watreloo told me)
 
As before said, 9 great powers is not balanced.

Dude, nor is 8. Think about it? You're argument is invalid. Want to know why? Yes there is a equal amount of majors but look at it this way:

1) Over half will join the British.
2) Not all majors are equally strong in any way, so no matter what it's a bit unbalanced, so adding Denmark as a major would actually make a 9th major to toss around with, making the game experience more exciting.
 
Dude, nor is 8. Think about it? You're argument is invalid. Want to know why? Yes there is a equal amount of majors but look at it this way:

1) Over half will join the British.
2) Not all majors are equally strong in any way, so no matter what it's a bit unbalanced, so adding Denmark as a major would actually make a 9th major to toss around with, making the game experience more exciting.

In a multiplayer game, 4 major powers on each side could be seen as fair, if divided equally. I would argue more that Sweden shouldn't be a major power than Denmarl should be, and stick with 7, but 8 is a better figure.
 
They did, I thought they had even 2 regiments! I am sure they fought, according to my history books and various other sources they did (the guide in Watreloo told me)

Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Waterloo

Do control+f and search for, Sweden, Swedish or Swede, nothing pops up, also I got tons of books about it, Sweden did not take part of the battle. But whatever, how does this have anything to do with adding Denmark as a 9th major? Cause weather Sweden did or did not take part of a battle doesn't make them more or less powerful.
 
In a multiplayer game, 4 major powers on each side could be seen as fair, if divided equally. I would argue more that Sweden shouldn't be a major power than Denmarl should be, and stick with 7, but 8 is a better figure.

Dude now you are arguing against yourself, 7 is not an equal number just like 9 and no matter what you do it's not gonna be totally fair, you got to use mind to win no matter what, because now matter what it has the chance of becomming very unfair for either the french coalition or the british.
 
I do believe Johan said a while back they just picked Sweden for the sixth power to round off the numbers.
 
All majors are not created equal. The idea that they need an even number doesnt make sense if Russia and France decide to team up early there is little the other powers can do about it.
 
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