[The Resistance] Game 8

[randakar]

I think I made a very bad spy. I didn't get to do anything until my team proposal, and then after I proposed it everyone knew I was a spy and it was game over. I did think the team had a decent chance of passing, even if it did have four spies, since Falc and Xarkan had each other cleared and Randy was doing very well for himself, but it just flopped.

That team proposal really made me facepalm. Proposing the entire spy team as a team just after Falc basically outed himself? .. yeah. That was not going to go anywhere.
I send Gliomarto a message earlier telling him that if you just made a decent looking proposal it actually had a good chance of passing and winning us the game. Instead you did .. that. ;-)

I won't be playing in the next game; that, I'm sure, my team-mates will be grateful for.

Falc, your record in The Resistance is much better than mine (5 games, 1 win; which I think is the worst of any who have won anything)

Heh. I'm on two games, zero wins or something?

I'll admit to doing a stupid thing when I accused TNT.

The thing is, though, I had genuinely forgotten I'd cleared him. On the one hand, I sorta blame the pace of the game at that point. On the other hand, because I was a Spy, the fact that I had cleared Xarkan earlier was not about to get forgotten.

As for Tamius... After mission 2, I was pretty certain me, Randy and Xarkan had been exposed to too much scrutiny. Unfortunately, Tamius had been left out of the game until then and I certainly couldn't start dropping his name.

And yes, Tamius, your proposal was a bit too much...

It would have helped if you guys had been a tad more active in general. One of the things that really damned us later was that you actually backed my proposal that replaced Xarkan with JPR, while you rejected the team right before that. What I wanted and expected you to do was to vote *against* it. There was no way for me to communicate that to you, though.
You really can't rely on your team mates to do your heavy lifting for you. This isn't werewolf - if you don't play the game, don't expect to win.

 

[jpr123]

Good game! I have a 100% win record now for the Resistance.

Dammit! I've finally managed to overtake Cymsdales W/L ratio so please lose next game!

That team proposal really made me facepalm. Proposing the entire spy team as a team just after Falc basically outed himself? .. yeah. That was not going to go anywhere.
I send Gliomarto a message earlier telling him that if you just made a decent looking proposal it actually had a good chance of passing and winning us the game. Instead you did .. that. ;-)

It would have helped if you guys had been a tad more active in general. One of the things that really damned us later was that you actually backed my proposal that replaced Xarkan with JPR, while you rejected the team right before that. What I wanted and expected you to do was to vote *against* it. There was no way for me to communicate that to you, though.

Yeah these really were two massive spy mistakes. Falc switching his vote basically outed Randy... And if Tamius had proposed a team of himself with Kiwi, TNT and King, I think it may have been approved.

 

[AsdfeZxcas]

Dammit! I've finally managed to overtake Cymsdales W/L ratio so please lose next game!

And so now, I offically retire from The Resistance, having the best record of all the forum!

 

[randakar]

Yeah these really were two massive spy mistakes. Falc switching his vote basically outed Randy... And if Tamius had proposed a team of himself with Kiwi, TNT and King, I think it may have been approved.

Exactly. The entire situation was just ripe for a ream like that, even with Falc outing himself. We had at least a 50-50 shot at least at winning, and we blew it.

So. Someone put up a new game so I can actually get my 0% win ratio up.

 

[Trinitrotoluen]

I think the main problem for the spies was that they stopped playing around the mid-game. All were very quiet, failed to produce any meaningful arguments and generally let the village do its thing. Xarkan + Falc did good initially when they scapegoated Kiwi but then failed to follow it up in any way.

 

[Xarkan]

I think the main problem for the spies was that they stopped playing around the mid-game. All were very quiet, failed to produce any meaningful arguments and generally let the village do its thing. Xarkan + Falc did good initially when they scapegoated Kiwi but then failed to follow it up in any way.

I blame the July 4th holiday. I do most of my analysis at work

 

[Falc]

I rather had the feeling that the whole game was going slow, not just the spies?

And I was a bit wary of trying to get people more active. With the game going the way of the Spies at that point, pushing too hard would probably have attracted more attention than comfortable.

 

[AsdfeZxcas]

At first it went pretty fast, but then everything slowed down for some reason. Also, I guess JPR might have been right about voting by pm. Might. The spies did play a really bad game at the end.

 

[jpr123]

Might? When I finally started playing properly I immediately identified three of the spies, just from looking at the votes. Spies can't hide their intentions nearly as well if they don't know how other people are voting... Looking at how people vote is one of the best ways of finding spies IMO and it's hugely weakened if the spies know they can reject a team they actually want to succeed or approve a team they want to fail without affecting the outcome.

 

[AsdfeZxcas]

Might? When I finally started playing properly I immediately identified three of the spies, just from looking at the votes. Spies can't hide their intentions nearly as well if they don't know how other people are voting... Looking at how people vote is one of the best ways of finding spies IMO and it's hugely weakened if the spies know they can reject a team they actually want to succeed or approve a team they want to fail without affecting the outcome.

Voting by PM hurt the spies, but the spies hurt themselves too.

 

[randakar]

Heh. In my case I tried to keep my vote close to what I felt was the most logical thing to do from a resistance POV. Sort of ignoring the 'what team I really should want to pass'.
Which really didn't help when Asdf posted an imho very reasonable argument that I couldn't actually very well refute in-thread, forcing me to vote differently from what I really wanted to do.

Ah well.

 

[Cliges]

New game is here.