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Good game everyone, it was fun to observe. Grats to the wolves, I'd say you deserved it. Even though most villagers made good points near the end, but the wolves just led the crowd I guess. Guess I'll be weary of crowd leaders when I'm playing...

(Note: I can write in white now that the game is over right?)
Sometimes crowd leaders can work though. But if you're going to trust one, you want to do it more than the day before parity, so that if they're wrong they can be held accountable the next day.
 
Not only that, if everyone plays like that the becomes broken. Think about it, a whole thread of nothing but player votes and GM votecounts. There's nothing to be said about that and very little to be read into it.
It's a symptom not a cause in my view. If players were more likely to lynch inactive players, players would be less inactive. As it happens, villagers tend to lynch active players sometimes just for being active, and wolves often hunt the most active players. I'm ashamed to say we done that partly in this game, I feel bad about hunting Kiwi and johho in consecutive nights, although it must be stressed those who sent in the orders had their reasons and it wasn't to do with taking out the more active players.
 
It's easier to keep wolves involved in a game. They get to talk in a clique that actually knows who to trust, they get another phase in the game each day. They have to remain hidden which puts a different pressure on the game than being a villager. As a villager you have to be vigilant, until you are lynched/hunted for the greater good.

Also how involved did all of your wolves stay, I mean neither arach mede nor Raspa car were all that active. From what I could see in the thread at least.

I thought it unwise to post my analysis of who might be Seers and Warlocks in the thread. :p However, apart from the last day there weren't any villagers putting more into the thread than I was.
 
If johho isn't hunted early in a lite, it's nearly a sure sign he's a wolf.

Quite funny, he subbed into the last lite I ran and the wolves changed their hunt order to him as soon as they noticed.
 
Sometimes crowd leaders can work though. But if you're going to trust one, you want to do it more than the day before parity, so that if they're wrong they can be held accountable the next day.

Crowd Leaders are very fun imo, as it lets me live out my sheep fantasy, also Inbox Cleared to any whom it concerns
 
Crowd Leaders are very fun imo, as it lets me live out my sheep fantasy, also Inbox Cleared to any whom it concerns
Planning to be a wolf next round?
 
Inaction from the village was a huge reason for this lose. After Kiwi took over the wolves set the tone and no one tried anything. I was lazy and simply accepted defeat, which drew out quite a while. The wolves won, partly because they were in contact and competent, but the inaction of the village is what killed us. I am including myself in that. I didn't do anything until it was far too late.
On an unrelated note I really want to be a wolf one game. It seems like it would be way easier than a villager, especially in a game like this without a seer.
 
On an unrelated note I really want to be a wolf one game. It seems like it would be way easier than a villager, especially in a game like this without a seer.

You'd be surprised. This was an unusually competent display by the wolves, and the village completely lacked any leader types. It's not uncommon for two or three wolves to be caught early without any seerish intervention.
 
You'd be surprised. This was an unusually competent display by the wolves,
Between TAM and Marty, we were well motivated and organized.
 
If johho isn't hunted early in a lite, it's nearly a sure sign he's a wolf.

Quite funny, he subbed into the last lite I ran and the wolves changed their hunt order to him as soon as they noticed.
I've almost never played johho in Lite before, but I wouldn't say he gets hunted that much. He has runs where he never gets hunted, then runs where he gets hunted frequently, but rarely in between.
 
Unfortunately, this was a good reason for me being a wolf:
In an attempt to be a dissenting voice I'll

vote marty

owing to the fact that if he's a villager he ought to be dead by now.

Yes, that hunt:lynch ratio needs mending: (snaffled from player-history thread)

I actually thought my hunt/lynch (5:1) ratio was even bigger, though

Villager: 16 games, hunted 10 times, lynched 2, Lost 1, Won 3.
I would hope you guys will be a little more liberal in keeping me alive whenever I'm a villager, though.
 
I've almost never played johho in Lite before, but I wouldn't say he gets hunted that much. He has runs where he never gets hunted, then runs where he gets hunted frequently, but rarely in between.
I don't really get "runs" of anything in Lite since I rarely play them.

This is my track record for Lite but I don't really see a pattern:
WWL X - Johho the Roman senator (werewolf, lynched 4d)
WWL XII - Count Johho VIII (villager)
WWL XX - Giovanni Otto Otto Otto the sailor (villager, lynched 1d)
WWL XXIX - Cyclops the mutant (werewolf, lynched 2d)
WWL CLXXIV - Long John Silver the pirate (seer)
WWL CLXXV - Jo'Hho the Narn (wolf, lynched 3d)
WWL CCXXII - Joan Goodly, the baker's other daughter. (villager, eaten 3n)
WWL CCXL - johho the n00b (warlock, lynched 4d)
WWL CCXLVIII - Jennifer Connelly (werewolf)
WWL CCLIX - a sub (villager, eaten immediately)
WWL CCLXVI - Yohho Yohhovic the turnip farmer (villager, eaten 1n)

In Big games on the other hand I almost never get lynched unless I'm scanned as a baddie and even as a baddie I most often get eaten by the other baddies and I've even been eaten once by my own pack...
 
I had you eaten because the only feeling of cooperation between villagers I got from Day 1 was you and citizen. Nothing blatant but no one else had anything they wanted to act on at all. You weren't lending him your horseshoe were you?
 
Speaking of hunts, I assume I was just picked for winning a couple of games recently, much like esemesas?
 
Kiwi getting eaten was on me. Like Johho, I considered Kiwi a very likely focal point of villager cooperation.

I didn't get any work done today. I will certainly pay for it tomorrow.
 
Speaking of hunts, I assume I was just picked for winning a couple of games recently, much like esemesas?
Nope. I just considered you too dangerous especially in combination with Johho. Sorry.
 
This is my track record for Lite but I don't really see a pattern:

Yeah, though those few occasions I have seen you in lite, you always seem to be considered a big threat.


Hunting recent winners is to me the more chivalrous approach early on in lite.
 
Yeah, though those few occasions I have seen you in lite, you always seem to be considered a big threat.


Hunting recent winners is to me the more chivalrous approach early on in lite.
This is absolute bullshit! If people start doing that next game that will be the most unfair thing ever!!

Why do you hate me, Cliges?