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It's finally time to announce the next expansion for Crusader Kings II! You might already know the name: "Sons of Abraham". Some of you were very close in your guesses on what it might be. No, it's not a Zombie DLC! Sons of Abraham focuses on the three Abrahamic religions, Christianity, Islam and Judaism. The idea was to go back to the roots after all the attention given to the heathens, and to flesh out the religious side of the game for the monotheists; Christians in particular.

First and foremost, we wanted to do more with the Pope; how he gets elected, what powers he has and how you can gain his favor. Thus, we added the Cardinal title and the College of Cardinals. For simplicity's sake, there are only nine cardinals, and the Pope is always elected from among their number. Cardinals, however, are not elected; they are picked by the Pope from among his courtiers and the bishops of Europe. The selection is based on many factors; age, piety, opinion, culture (the Pope really likes Italians!), etc.

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So, how exactly do you get your man onto the chair of Saint Peter? Well, the Holy See is not a democracy, so this is not a direct process. First, you need at least one of your bishops to get appointed Cardinal by the Holy Father. Fortunately, you do not have to rely entirely on the character of the bishop himself, you can grease the machinery with a bit of lucre by putting money in the campaign fund (similar to how Doges are elected in Merchant Republics). Of course, it is also possible to carefully groom a candidate for a career in the Catholic church before you even make him a bishop.

When the Pope dies, the cardinals in turn elect his successor. This process cannot be directly influenced by the player, but the cardinals will reason much like the Pope does when he picks new cardinals, so it's better to have old, pious men made cardinals than incompetent wastrels whose election you paid for.

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Ok, so let us say one of your bishops is eventually made Pope. How does that serve you? Well, Popes that come from your realm will like you - a lot. Of course, that means they will be likely to grant your requests. Want to get divorced? No problem. Want to invade someone? Ok. To make this even more useful, we've given the Pope some new powers as well: he can give you money, plain and simple. He can also approve your candidate for a bishopric under Papal Investiture, or even declare a Crusade on the infidel of your choice. However, each time he does you a favor, he will like you less, so your influence will not last forever. Incidentally, having your antipope installed in Rome will have a similar effect. Oh, and if the Pope should happen to be of your very own dynasty, that will give you a lot of monthly Piety and Prestige.

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There are some direct benefits to controlling cardinals as well. You cannot ask to have someone excommunicated or invaded if they control more cardinals than you do.

That's that about the College of Cardinals. Next week I'll talk about holy orders, heresies, and other things...

ps.

Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham (official product page)
http://www.paradoxplaza.com/games/crusader-kings-ii-sons-of-abraham

Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham announced (News article at PC gamer)
http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/10/22/crusader-kings-ii-the-something-something-announced/[URL="http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/10/22/crusader-kings-ii-the-something-something-announced/"][/URL]
 
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I've seen reformations of pagan religions appoint characters of different religions as their religious heads (there are pics somewhere in the strange screenshot thread). It is a bug in that case, but the game doesn't seem to mind the oddity of having a Catholic as the head of the Slavic faith, for example.

I've seen a Sunni pope in screenshots as well. Hopefully this will work as is.
 
I've seen a Sunni pope in screenshots as well. Hopefully this will work as is.

I've seen reformations of pagan religions appoint characters of different religions as their religious heads (there are pics somewhere in the strange screenshot thread). It is a bug in that case, but the game doesn't seem to mind the oddity of having a Catholic as the head of the Slavic faith, for example.

I guest is: it will not work for non-christian religions. In fact, they may not even work for non-investiture Chritian religions (a.k.a Orthodox and her heresies). It is due to the College of Cardinals button is tied to Catholic religion interface, so I believe only Catholic clones and their heresies can use the new function. It will be crash when the Graphic engine fail to render that window (the same thing happens when you open the religion window of a religion had both autocephalous and investiture enabled at the same time).

Of course, PI can still rework the interface for other religions to made them all compatible with the College of Cardinal feature. But that will take some serious works, and I still hope they could move the new election system to title level in the future.
 
I just want to point out that a feature I requested has made it's way into this DLC!

A while back I mentioned that I was reading the book The Plantagenets: The Warrior Kings and Queens Who Made England

http://www.amazon.com/Plantagenets-...d=1382664290&sr=1-1&keywords=the+plantagenets

And noticed how often Kings and heirs to the throne would send their brothers off to monasteries, thus removing them from the line of succession.

Now it looks like we will be able to do this! GREAT!!
 
Awesome!

This is crazy, I heard you guys are adding 300 events or so. Hopefully you can ask the Pope to crown you? Could give a trait which increased opinion, or gave some sort of dip boost.

You've already got a customer here regardless, can't wait to see more!
 
I guest is: it will not work for non-christian religions. In fact, they may not even work for non-investiture Chritian religions (a.k.a Orthodox and her heresies). It is due to the College of Cardinals button is tied to Catholic religion interface, so I believe only Catholic clones and their heresies can use the new function. It will be crash when the Graphic engine fail to render that window (the same thing happens when you open the religion window of a religion had both autocephalous and investiture enabled at the same time).

Of course, PI can still rework the interface for other religions to made them all compatible with the College of Cardinal feature. But that will take some serious works, and I still hope they could move the new election system to title level in the future.

They already said it fully moddable for any religion. And with own rules who is a elector.
 
Don't know if these two things have been asked - but will the appointed cardinals get new red robes?
And when they get appointed, will they then leave your court, and their bishopric, or will they keep holding the title, while working in Rome?
 
They already said it fully moddable for any religion. And with own rules who is a elector.

Fully moddable for every religion does not mean that will work for every religion. Groovy only explain the core of the College of Cardinal code which does not tied to catholic religion. But it does not mean the interface of different religion will support the code. So far, we only see the College of Cardinal button on Catholic interface. I wonder how they gonna deal with Muslim and Pagan interface. In vanilla game, Having a College of Cardinal button on non-Catholic religion is inelegant, yet that button would lead to a empty would be more ridiculous. So I suggest they should move them to a more elegant place like the the Religion Head's title window.
 
Apologies if this has already been answered but does a priests holdings go with him if he becomes a cardinal or pope? If so will the papacy eventually acquire random bishoprics all over the map.
 
How will the "college or cardinals" (or whatever it is really called) succession work? I mean, does the new elected head inherit ALL of the previous head's titles or just the religious head one?
 
How will the "college or cardinals" (or whatever it is really called) succession work? I mean, does the new elected head inherit ALL of the previous head's titles or just the religious head one?

I think he inherit all the previous titles... I mean... If he didn't inherit the whole Papal State it would be very wrong.
 
How will the "college or cardinals" (or whatever it is really called) succession work? I mean, does the new elected head inherit ALL of the previous head's titles or just the religious head one?

Probably like in republics, but i wonder how it works with their own titles as vassals of their former realm.
Will they loose them when elected pope or will they be seperated ?
Loosing them wold make most sense, unless you want the duchy of Cologne become part of the vatican.
 
Probably like in republics, but i wonder how it works with their own titles as vassals of their former realm.
Will they loose them when elected pope or will they be seperated ?
Loosing them wold make most sense, unless you want the duchy of Cologne become part of the vatican.

Ideally the cardinals would surrender their bishoprics upon being appointed cardinal (since you're not meant to bishop of more than one see).
But it is definitely necessary for the new Pope to abandon their non-papal state titles upon being appointed, otherwise gradually most of the bishop run counties and duchies will become part of the Papal State.
 
Probably like in republics, but i wonder how it works with their own titles as vassals of their former realm.
Will they loose them when elected pope or will they be seperated ?
Loosing them wold make most sense, unless you want the duchy of Cologne become part of the vatican.

I hope this to. This was how it was in real life, right? The pope lose the bishopric he ruled before he was pope and a new bishop will be chosen.