Hello all.

Sadly we can't yet talk about the big feature of Common Sense, Subject Interaction.. As we are completely redoing the interface for it, so it has to wait until next week.

Instead, we'll talk about a major change to the Holy Roman Empire, and give you the new achievements for 1.12.

Imperial Authority and Reforms

Imperial Authority has had a significant rework in 1.12. The old system tended to advance or retreat authority in big lurches and was very open to exploits. It also did not take into account how well the Empire was doing overall, and there was little benefit for the Emperor to maintain a large number of member states.

This has been changed in 1.12, as many of the events that gave Imperial Authority have been replaced with ticking values. The monthly change to Imperial Authority is now displayed in the interface, and will depend on factors such as:
- Whether there is peace in the Empire
- Total number of member states
- The amount of HRE territory held by outside powers
- The amount of HRE territory held by heretics & heathens
- The number of electors and free cities

An Emperor who is doing a good job will see their Imperial Authority naturally grow without having to resort to methods such as annexing states when authority is at 0 only to release them again later, while an Emperor that allows outside powers and heretics to dominate the Empire will find themselves unable to pass reforms entirely.

As part of this change, we've also revised the old 'Imperial Integrity' modifier for having more than 25 princes. We felt this modifier was both too strong and too arbitrary, so it has been removed. Instead, the HRE reforms were buffed to provide more of an incentive for members to vote for reform.

Achievements

Baltic Crusader - As Teutonic Order or Livonian Order conquer all of the Russia Region and make it Catholic.
Neither Holy, Nor German - Get 7 free cities in the HRE that are not of German Culture, as Emperor
Colonial Management - Have 3 colonial governors directly appointed by you at the same time.
Voting Streak - Get through 11 Issues in a row in Parliament
An Industrial Revolution - As GBR, all in english region, with 25 development.

City of Cities - Create a City with 60 development.
One Family to Rule them All - Have your dynasty on 8 thrones at the same time.
This is My Faith - Become Protestant and get maximum amount of traits.
Bleed them dry - Have 10 different War Reparations being paid to you at the same time.
Subsidize my Love - Subsidize 3 different allies at least 50% of their monthly income without running a deficit.

Take that Habsburgs! - As Hungary, Conquer all of Austria.
The White Elephant - As Ayutthaya conquers all provinces in Indochina region
The Buddhists strike back - As Ceylon conquer all of India and convert it to Theravada.
Better than Napoleon - As France, conquer Vienna, Berlin & Moscow.
Big Blue Blob - As France, hold 100 european core provinces before 1500.

A Full House - Have 3 Vassals & 2 Marches at the Same time.
Black Jack - Maintain 21 different overseas Subjects with more than 5 provinces each, without anyone having more than 50% Liberty Desire - Trade Companies does not count.
A Decent Reserve - Gain at least 1M Manpower.
The Six Nations - Form a federation of at least 6 nations as the Iroqious.
The Bohemians - Conquer and core Dublin as Bohemia.

Komenoi Empire - Make Trebizond into an Empire.
Lucky Lucca - As Lucca, own Lucknow!
A Fine Goosestep - Form Prussia and get 125% Discipline.
Meissner Porcelain - As Saxony own all chinaware provinces.
All Your Trade are Belong to Us! - Have highest tradepower in Genoa, Venice, & English Channel, while gaining 300 income per month.

 

[Voltion99]

Well I wouldn't mind if they accidentally swung that axe to far in that direction, atleast it would show them trying to balance france.



No France teams up with others to hold back the truly powerful, like Spain and the HRE. The only time europe teams up on france is when napoleon does what no one even considered and starts taking things ha doesnt have any claim on. And that's outside of this game era. Honestly making taking land harder for everyone and making austria and spain historical friends is probably a better nerf for france.

1. Napoleon Bonaparte
   Military leader
2. Napoléon Bonaparte was a French military and political leader who rose to prominence during the French Revolution and its associated wars. As Napoleon I, he was Emperor of the French from 1804 until 1814, and again in 1815. Wikipedia
3. Born: August 15, 1769, Ajaccio, France
4. Died: May 5, 1821, Longwood
5. Height: 5' 6" (1.68 m)

 

[Sukramo]

Why no Roman Lake Achievement?

I was 6 Provinces away from that with Byzantium with a good 100+ years left. Then I got a 14 year regancy and regequit. Viva le Republic!

 

[InFerroVeritas]

I'm all for more achievements. I see we've got a whole bunch here and I could go for even more. I enjoy the challenge most of them pose (although some, like the princess one, are just plain RNG).

 

[Fryslan0109]

Finally looks to be time for my long-delayed Austria playthrough... ^_^

 

[blackchoas]

I'm all for more achievements. I see we've got a whole bunch here and I could go for even more. I enjoy the challenge most of them pose (although some, like the princess one, are just plain RNG).

In theory this should be better with the Women of History events giving you at least better chances with nations that have a WoH event giving a female heir after the date that Palaces can be build although I just got unlucky and the Catherine the Great event never fired in my Russia game leaving me still without this one

Also this might be easier if the building rebalance allows for the building of Palaces earlier in the game

 

[Plastic_Duke]

I honestly think this is the big problem with EU4, and am convinced that 1444-1700 is better represented by Crusader Kings, while 1700 onwards should be part of Victoria 2. The only problem is that Crusader Kings has no mechanic that represents colonies.

I would not go that far... But surely EUIV would benefit a lot from some improved dynastic mechanics. Having said that, since the announcement of Common Sense, I must confess, I have great hopes for the future of the game.

There were two things I thought were really missing in this game : first, the lack of any serious mechanics not more or less connected to conquest, forcing you to play a constantly overly aggressive game if only you wished to remain competitive - as if "in the grim nightmare of the far past, there were only war"... - and second, at war, the lack of any real strategic (or tactical) depth. Because of that, I lost interest in the game a while ago. But now, with the new development and fort systems featured in the next expansion, it seems that my prayers might have - at last - been answered.

I bought El Dorado just because... well, I am a fan. This time I'll buy Common Sense with great expectations. As many others have pointed out, this might prove to be a whole new game !

 

[InFerroVeritas]

In theory this should be better with the Women of History events giving you at least better chances with nations that have a WoH event giving a female heir after the date that Palaces can be build although I just got unlucky and the Catherine the Great event never fired in my Russia game leaving me still without this one

Also this might be easier if the building rebalance allows for the building of Palaces earlier in the game

Oh, I already have it. I was just annoyed by achievements that are basically only obtainable via RNG. It also doesn't help that Muslim states (which appear to have zero female rulers outside of events) basically can't get it.

 

[blackchoas]

Oh, I already have it. I was just annoyed by achievements that are basically only obtainable via RNG. It also doesn't help that Muslim states (which appear to have zero female rulers outside of events) basically can't get it.

thats actually not true I thought that was the case as well until the greatest ruler my Persian Empire ever had was a Sultana that ruled for 60 years and she wasn't event generated

but I agree with the sentiment about RNG based achievements I was just pointing out that that particular one has gotten better since you can now more or less plan for it

 

[Emiliana]

60 development? Is that the cap? I can not wait a month for this DLC !

 

[noobeless]

Because "Big Blue Blob" is France's memetic name in the EU player community, not Sweden's.

i know, but i will still find it amazing if you can archive that achievement with any blue nation, a Big Blue Blob is a Big Blue Blob after all. France is just the biggest usually

 

[chrnno]

i know, but i will still find it amazing if you can archive that achievement with any blue nation, a Big Blue Blob is a Big Blue Blob after all. France is just the biggest usually

Not to mention it also stands for Burgundy for the brief period between it beating France and becoming France.

 

[Dr. B]

Narcissistic military campaigns and conquests aside ? I find a lot of similarities in the ways Napoleon and Hitler rose to power. They both benefited from a deeply confused and inexperienced democratic setup, that they both completely "hijacked" to serve their own imperialistic ambitions - which they both didn't survive. Also, I believe french and german people of those times shared a great deal of frustration as well as profound nationalistic sentiments that permited them to give their - almost - full support to those er... hum, tyrants. However (in)glorious they might seem to some. Although the ideological "excuses" they used for their imperialistic "adventures" were very different - on that I agree. Aaannnd the Napoleonic wars certainly killed a lot less people than WWII, of course.

Beyond that, I think we can say that Napoleon was the one who really opened the way to the era of Nationalism, and Hitler was the one who almost "closed" it. At least - again - in western Europe.

Your post has good points, it shows how dictators rise to power in the modern era. One can only look to a certain large country to the east of europe to see the similarities. The motivations and goals can vary, but the methods of gaining control is so silmilar (an us-against-them attitude echoed through control of media to name another).

 

[grommile]

Oh, I already have it. I was just annoyed by achievements that are basically only obtainable via RNG. It also doesn't help that Muslim states (which appear to have zero female rulers outside of events) basically can't get it.

Operative word being (for the most part) "appear". You might be surprised how many Muslim countries have at least one female ruler name defined (and thus can have female monarchs); the list includes most of the large-at-game-start Muslim tags, with the notable exceptions on that score being the Ottomans and Mamluks.

 

[IsadorBG]

Narcissistic military campaigns and conquests aside ? I find a lot of similarities in the ways Napoleon and Hitler rose to power. They both benefited from a deeply confused and inexperienced democratic setup, that they both completely "hijacked" to serve their own imperialistic ambitions - which they both didn't survive. Also, I believe french and german people of those times shared a great deal of frustration as well as profound nationalistic sentiments that permited them to give their - almost - full support to those er... hum, tyrants. However (in)glorious they might seem to some. Although the ideological "excuses" they used for their imperialistic "adventures" were very different - on that I agree. Aaannnd the Napoleonic wars certainly killed a lot less people than WWII, of course.

Beyond that, I think we can say that Napoleon was the one who really opened the way to the era of Nationalism, and Hitler was the one who almost "closed" it. At least - again - in western Europe.

I would have prefered that you compare Napoleon with Caesar if you really needed a military dictator.

The First French Republic wasn't democratic like at all for good reason since the majority of the French population was deeply royalist. Really the more I think about it the less I find Hitler and Napoleon to be in anyway comparable.

Napeoleon himself had to repress the French population (as soldier) to save the Republic from a Royalist take over which was what the people wanted.

Napoleon made a coup d'etat against the directoire. Hitler was democratically elected.

Napoleon didn't start the French campaign against other European nation only brought it to another level and the French goals were more standard imperialism that ulra-nationalistic.

So he hijacked nothing in that respect since the French Republic was just as much imperialist.
Again the comparision with Rome is more proper in that regard.

The French didn't care much about the directoire which was an oppressive regime they were more than happy when Napoleon took power and restored order after almost a decade of chaos and internal strife.

Also Napeoleon managed to made peace with Britain to the great satisfaction of the population which was tired of war.
The fact that it was Britain which broked the peace made it easy for him to count on the support of the population for latter campaigns. (In which the UK was always part of determined to break the French Revolution).

For almost all the Napeolonic wars. It was the coalitions led by the United Kingdom that started the hostilies not France.
Again a big difference between Napoleon's France and Hitler's Germany.

So yeah Napoleon and Hitler didn't rise the same way. Narcissitic military campaing didn't share the same goal nor where they the only European rulers about it.
They did not have the same ideology or personality.
And even where not seen the same way at all by their opponent.

The coalitions against Napoleon admired him just as much as they hated him. And what they hated about him was less his warmongering than his disgusting enlightened ideals. Just like his republican predessors.


There is only one thing they share: they went for Russia and loss everything because of it. That's about it.

 

[Liquidstuff]

What is untrue ? That France was strong enough to survive the Hasburg or that they contained French expansion for centuries ?

Not sure on which part of my post you disagreed. You post imply that France allied with the Ottois is stronger than the Hasburgs which mean it is even stronger than I suggested.

We are talking of Spain at its peak,half of Italy the whole lowland, Austria, Bohemia and a good chunk of Hungary.

That's more than half of western Europe. And the richest half !

And the Hasburg were allies with Persia too you know.

The thing with the French-ottomans alliance and the Hapsburg-Persian alliance is that it was literally impossible to coordinate their forces, especially for the last one.

 

[commanderx]

They would need to be rather alternate history so... I really don't think so...

Personally I have been not very excited by this DD as I am not very big fan of HRE and to be honest this week's DD describes rather minor stuff when compared with revolutionary content of some other DDs (Development, Forts) or at least big regional changes (Protestant buff, Buddhist buff'n'split'n'flavour). Oh well, now I am excited to see this entire Subject Interaction stuff - if it brings changed UI it is probably big new feature.

Em does anyone forgets Japan event in regards of them going and conquering Manga ? And in ether case it is EU4 ? Most playthroughts that I see are alternative-history

 

[blackchoas]

Isn't it great how depending on how you look at history Napoleon, who is likely the greatest single person in the history of the world for the last 300 years at least and not just great in the Alexander I conquered a lot sense but was a serious and deliberate force for the greater good, can be considered the same as Hitler, the incarnation of all humanity's self hatred, who made racism into both a science and a religion and then used it as an excuse for genocide.

 

[IsadorBG]

Isn't it great how depending on how you look at history Napoleon, who is likely the greatest single person in the history of the world for the last 300 years at least and not just great in the Alexander I conquered a lot sense but was a serious and deliberate force for the greater good, can be considered the same as Hitler, the incarnation of all humanity's self hatred, who made racism into both a science and a religion and then used it as an excuse for genocide.

That's becaue the winners write history and the British really really did not lile him.

 

[TheDungen]

When Sweden did that ? the 30 years war ?

It's actually France that came to the rescue of Sweden or it would have been kicked out of Germany earlier than in real history.



It's rather you that have a problem with France. You don't like the BBB in game ? Fair enough.

But France was a major military power (and never declined) through the whole game time span and there's not a lot of country in the game that can match that.

Maybe Russia and that's about it.

Eh, France came to the rescue of sweden? Yeha right. They had a mutual foe, and none of them were the slighliest bit intrested in the well being of the other. Also sweden got it's german parts in the 30 years war so it wouldn't have been kicked out of germnay because it didn't have any land in germany prior to that. And Sweden during the 30 years war did the impossible they fought the emperor and won, sure with some help from germany but there is a reason that it's Gustavus Adolphus and not Louis XIII that's considered one of the greatest military minds of history.

And you didn't say A major military power, that would ahve been true. You said THE major military power, and there simply wasn't such a thing.

 

[TheDungen]

That's becaue the winners write history and the British really really did not lile him.

Are you kidding me Napoleon is spoken of with scary amounts of respects considering he was basically hitler 0.1, there is no dictator in history that has been more romantisised than napoleon.
The only diffrence is that Napoleon was actually somewhat intelligent which cannot be said for Hitler. He knew when to listen to the true man behind the french sucess during the napoleonic war, Jean Baptist Bernadotte. But like hitler he eventually managed to alienate his greatest asset who turned on him. The diffrence is ofcourse that Bernadotte did a lot better when he turned on napoleon than Rommel did when he turned on Hitler.