Is EU:ROME still worth playing? I have the gold edition with Vae Victus. Or should I devote my time to learning say EUIV or CK2?
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Worth playing if you are into the older Paradox titles, an outdated engine, a semi-CK2 style character system that you have no control over, extremely bland gameplay (except for Rome itself), and probably economic resource management.
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No.
EU:Rome was the first PDS game I've bought, and it was never playable. Not back then, not now, not ever... and I gave it multiple fair attempts.
I love the Roman theme, but EU:Rome is just not a good game. It cannot compare to the heavyweights that is EU4 or CK2. It cannot compare with EU3. It cannot even compete with Sengoku...and I dare say, it cannot even compete with CK1, and I didn't even like CK1 that much.
To be fair, Rome is an outdated game, and if they can do to Rome what they did to CK with CK2, then Rome 2 would be an amazing game.
But otherwise, I would put Rome closer to the bottom of the list than the top. You should just save yourself the frustration and play EU4 or CK2... or the upcoming HoI4 if that's what you're interested in
EU:Rome was the first PDS game I've bought, and it was never playable. Not back then, not now, not ever... and I gave it multiple fair attempts.
I love the Roman theme, but EU:Rome is just not a good game. It cannot compare to the heavyweights that is EU4 or CK2. It cannot compare with EU3. It cannot even compete with Sengoku...and I dare say, it cannot even compete with CK1, and I didn't even like CK1 that much.
To be fair, Rome is an outdated game, and if they can do to Rome what they did to CK with CK2, then Rome 2 would be an amazing game.
But otherwise, I would put Rome closer to the bottom of the list than the top. You should just save yourself the frustration and play EU4 or CK2... or the upcoming HoI4 if that's what you're interested in
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There is ever more reason for a Rome II nowadays. It was a game that could've been excellent with some effort but the lack of effort to develop it further stagnated it, just like Sengoku.
Besides, the period from death of Alexander and start of the reign of Augustus had more intrigue, assassinations and famous figures than entire CK2 era map. Watching HBO Rome and after looking at that disaster named Rome 2 Total War, I would be willing to pay even 50 times the price if they just give me a new, better Rome game.
Besides, the period from death of Alexander and start of the reign of Augustus had more intrigue, assassinations and famous figures than entire CK2 era map. Watching HBO Rome and after looking at that disaster named Rome 2 Total War, I would be willing to pay even 50 times the price if they just give me a new, better Rome game.
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I think a sequel to EU:Rome has the potential to be the best Rome game ever made with the skills of Paradox.
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I still enjoy Rome. It's hard to compare to CK2 and EU4, there is no contest. But when I get sick of CK2 and EU4, I can still sink some hours into EU: Rome to this day. I really like the government and loyalty mechanics. To say it's not playable is an exaggeration. It can definitely feel bland at times, as there aren't many playable factions and most of the map needs to be colonized which requires a lot of patience.
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Yeah, I really don't understand how it can be said unplayable. I've just faced two bugs; sometimes it CTD on auto save, and sometimes, display gets weird and I have to quit and reload. Both are uncommon though. The rest is smooth. It inherited a few remnant problems of Paradox games (peace AI is stubborn typically) but there are no real flaws in the AI otherwise. It's hard to get the AI to like you, but if you put the effort, you can still play the diplo game with almost any nation.
I guess I'll get loads of big red crosses for stating this, but I personnaly feel more involved in the character development part than CK2. In CK2, I don't know who are my vassals, nor what they do. Interaction is limited to appointment in the council and civil wars (with it comes revocation). That's almost it for vassal relationships. There are the occasionnal bribes,... but it's uncommon and very situationnal.
In EU:Rome, I manage everything. Councilors matter, but unlike in CK2, they are not just random placeholders for a tech buff; if they have a grudge against me, it might hurt really. Choices are more tricky because several stats are taken in account; add in loyalty, ambitions and managing this and all the governors, military leaders start becoming tricky. It's up to me to fulfil character's ambitions or not, which in turn makes them successful or not socially. Choices sometimes backfire. A good general at first cna hope to become ruler, get loyal units and start thinking of contesting my rule. The regular need to shuffle assignments means I end up knowing characters. They regularly prompt me with demands (I want to lead army X); typically characters I don't want in charge (otherwise they would already lead troops or govern provinces). This creates an interesting dynamyc where refusing makes them dislike me, but appointing them is not something I want either because loyalty and popularity evolve dynamically throughout both the character deeds and mine.
This really contrasts with CK2 dynamyc where everyone is content with their position. Courtiers are courtiers, and fine as is, even a Karling prince in my court won't expect more than not being imprisonned. Children won't ask anything; ambitious ones might ask for a title but repeated refusal is of no consequence, and leading armies,... no one cares. This also contrast with popularity system; prestige in CK2 is just a number with little effects that quickly cap; in EU:Rome, winning a war is a quick way to get popularity (which makes characters more loyal to me) while failing will make characters see me weak, thus more likely to revolt. I'll grant you, managing a large Empire gets tedious and starts feeling micro-management, but getting to that point is really fun.
CK2 also lacks the achievement feel of EU:Rome. Once I'm King in CK2, I've sort of won the game and it's not even really hard to get there. Now however, in EU:Rome, trying to survive as a tribe trap beetween mighty Empires (Rome, Seleucid, Carthage, Egypt or Macedonia depending on where you are on the map and who is successful) is not something easily done.
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EU Rome is great, but by this time it had shown its age and it doesn't feel too good playing it. At least in my opinion; perhaps the interface is the problem? Or the lack of feedback to the player, I do not remember but I know that EU Rome is interesting and great with many amazing ideas but in the end the problems make it tedious and not fun to play compared to newer PDX games like Vicky 2, EUIV and CK2.
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Yes, it is. EU:ROME is a great game. I've also never faced lots of problems nor bugs, just some CTDs that I also have with CK2. I also think Councilors were very important, way more than in CK2. I don't play often, but whenever I have some spare time at work, I play it or CK1, the first Paradox Game I played. I still enjoy them very much.
What is awkward is that although I can play CK1 and EU:ROME finely, I just can't stand EU:3's interface any longer.
What is awkward is that although I can play CK1 and EU:ROME finely, I just can't stand EU:3's interface any longer.
It has a great music. I have made a habit to listen to it daily, particularly three songs that really give a feeling of 'Rome'.
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The mods for it are great, but you have to get used to quirks like alliance chaining. Expect to run out of places to expand when your enemies form huge coalitions.
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I've read the thread and it's funny I still cannot make up my mind for a yes or a no as an answer. What I can say for sure is that EU:ROME also potentially gives me a sense of achievement no other Paradox game will be able to.
What EU:Rome truly lacks is some love. If it had received two or three more extensive patches and expansions, it would probably still be one of the best Paradox games IMO. As it is now however, I can't even really say for sure whether it's still worth playing or not. I guess I will need to have the game eventually installed again and check it out.
I just bought EU:Rome Gold from gog, am excited how it will run, last title I played was Sengoku (loved it).
I'm just not sure how I get the code from gog to register my game here :? there doesn't seem to exist sth. like that.
I'm just not sure how I get the code from gog to register my game here :? there doesn't seem to exist sth. like that.
That was actually fixed in the latest patch. Expect to find it in tech support though because it's not connected to the auto update.
Hm, so I will never have EU: Rome Gold registered in my account as gog really does not provide a key to register the game here, as they say it's DRM free and does not need a CD-Key.
Meh, some hours later the game was even cheaper on Steam and there would've been surely a key included.
Sad thing is sad.
Meh, some hours later the game was even cheaper on Steam and there would've been surely a key included.
Sad thing is sad.