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With a flag mod and shader mods, it looks visually very good for such an old game. The game-play could be better, but it's one of those games, like Knights of Honour that never leave my HD. Pontus or Makedonia always grant fun games.

Edit: and you can flatten the camera PoV. Wish this feature was in CK2 and co.
 
On the modding subject, I would recommend the OP to try Wiz's excellent "The Reign of the Ancient" mod. His mod is the living proof EU:ROME could have been a much better game than it actually is.
 
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Rome wasn't as polished a game - but its certainly still playable.

I've considered going back and playing it but only as Rome, and only because I haven't played that bit of history very often.
 
Yea, people don't push the educational value of some of these franchises that hard sometimes. My love of the Pontic region of modern-day Turkey was, in part, due to playing EU:R. The Mithridates dynasty and beyond and what-have-you.

Happy times.
 
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yourworstnightm said:
Somewhat enjoyable with mods, but compared to CK2 and EU IV, very bland.

(and if I remember crrectly there were some game breaking bugs, not sure if they ever were fixed).
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This is exactly why so many people including me are clamouring for a reboot of this game.

It had potential, but was so unfinished and undeveloped that even mods can only make it mediocre.
 
With mods it's very nice. The AI is one of the best in paradox games tbh, wars are nasty against big empires, but it's the same mechanic of eu where you.need to carpet siege
 
yourworstnightm said:
Somewhat enjoyable with mods, but compared to CK2 and EU IV, very bland.

(and if I remember crrectly there were some game breaking bugs, not sure if they ever were fixed).
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Pretty sure they fixed the game-breaking bugs in the beta patch that's downloadable in Technical Support.
 
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It's a good game but feels like the development stopped on beta-test stage and never continued. Much better than Sengoku still.

We need Rome 2, hear us PDS!
 
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Darky said:
It's a good game but feels like the development stopped on beta-test stage and never continued. Much better than Sengoku still.

We need Rome 2, hear us PDS!
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Truth. After playing the GoG version all week, I just bought a retail boxed version, the thing is so crazy eccentric. There's good and bad with the game; the timeline good, the too large fonts and UI and the "Laodice Antigonid (who?) has made a new friend!" with no possible player choice attached to these ...decisions? was ...poor, to be kind.

Enough goodness, though, for a sequel. Very definitely.
 
I loved a lot of the concepts around loyalty, ambition, popularity and civil wars, those need to be in more PDS games.
 
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TheAtreides84 said:
TW Rome II is really good as of the Emperor Edition, probably the best in the series. Attila is great too.
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Quite the opposite. Rome 2 was never awesome. Even now it is only....playable. It still lacks features, still has many bugs, and is still regarded as one of the worst games in TW series.

If anything Attila is a better and more fixed version of Rome 2. But both games are nothing compared to their predecessors in terms of enjoyment (and sometimes features).
 
Will Steel said:
Quite the opposite. Rome 2 was never awesome. Even now it is only....playable. It still lacks features, still has many bugs, and is still regarded as one of the worst games in TW series.

If anything Attila is a better and more fixed version of Rome 2. But both games are nothing compared to their predecessors in terms of enjoyment (and sometimes features).
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Regarder by who? By a vocal minority on the internet, maybe. It has sold more than every other TW game, and has enjoyed a great majority of enthusiastic reviews since launch. It's just a matter of nostalgia-tinted glasses. Remember the Bronze age Egyptians of Rome I? The never-ending grind of enemy armies? The ridiculous three roman families? The suicidal generals? The retarded population system that let you deplete whole regions to recruit armies? I'm onboard since Shogun and Rome II is the best for me (then Empire, then Shogun II). Still, the series as a whole has glaring flaws that will never be resolved, but remains great fun.
 
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TheAtreides84 said:
It has sold more than every other TW game, and has enjoyed a great majority of enthusiastic reviews since launch.
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A lot of which are from the pre-order trap according to official statistics. There are a lot of people who stopped playing after discovering how the game was nothing as advertised. Some returned (like me, who continued playing for months in hope for patches before giving up), but are still really disappointed with how bad the game is, even if it is much better than release time. Many of those reviews, like that of IGN and others, turns out to be rather like a paid and biased one (damage control on Sega/CA's part).

Sure, it is better than RTW's vanilla in terms of how ridiculous it could be, but at least it was fun. Not much of fun is there in Rome II. I would still prefer Europa Barbarorum, Roma Surrectum 2 and many other great mods over Rome 2 any day.

A game's sale doesn't make it a good game. And CA proved they have lowly ethics when they made the most basic faction(s) - Greeks, an exclusive pre-order DLC.
 
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51st Georgia said:
So you haven't played the latest patched incarnation because you returned it? Just trying to sort out the opinions here....
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I of course play with the latest patch. I didn't play the game between 2014-January 2015 but I followed the patching and modding process all along.

Emperor Edition is playable, and sometimes can be fun. But saying Rome II is the best game is just...delusional fantasy.
 
Will Steel said:
A lot of which are from the pre-order trap according to official statistics. There are a lot of people who stopped playing after discovering how the game was nothing as advertised. Some returned (like me, who continued playing for months in hope for patches before giving up), but are still really disappointed with how bad the game is, even if it is much better than release time. Many of those reviews, like that of IGN and others, turns out to be rather like a paid and biased one (damage control on Sega/CA's part).
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This is a pretty heavy accusation to make. Do you have any proof? I work at IGN Italy and sure as hell I haven't seen a dime from SEGA or any other publisher.

Will Steel said:
Sure, it is better than RTW's vanilla in terms of how ridiculous it could be, but at least it was fun. Not much of fun is there in Rome II. I would still prefer Europa Barbarorum, Roma Surrectum 2 and many other great mods over Rome 2 any day.
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Have fun then. For me, the quality of life improvements (streamlined recruitment and city building, limiting of armies, removal of the pointless family tree, automatic transports) are worth the price alone. The AI is the best in the series, too (still poor, but the best). Lots of so-called gronards and modders equate micromanagement and grinding with strategic depth. This is actually not true at all. I've still nightmares about having to rotate armies back from the front to manually retrain them just to fight insignificant battle number 10 against the same enemy. Non fun, not historical and not respectful of my free time.

I'm under the impression people don't really remember how grindy the first TW games were (less so Shogun and Medieval), because they were in their teens when they played them, so they had all the free time and endurance in the world.
 
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