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Hearts of Iron IV - 32nd Development Diary - 6th of November 2015

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You people have problems with USA states while i will have to mod Polish-German border states so i will have histricol end of war border becouse Paradox for some weird reson made it the only known (right now) place were historical end of war border will be imposible.

Did we kill your grand... grand Fathers in 1655-1660 Paradox, that you wont make it right?
 
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So, if one was to enter a local South American war as a ally from the outside, would that circumvent the guarantee? That could be a cunning way to sneak past the Monroe Doctrine and establish a South American sphere for the New Order.
 
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I notice in the first page image, War Plan Red, of interest to me as I did a mod for darkest hour called Homeland, where the USA and ENG fight a war in 1935...

War Plan Red is also on the image. But I'm now confused as in an earlier DD, wasn't there an issue with Democracies going to war against eachother? Maybe my memory is incorrect?

So if War Plan Red is possible and my memory is correct, how can this occur please?

Don't get me wrong, I'd LOVE to play THAT game... (Britain still has an empire, and the USA is pre-empire ... )
 
novapaddy said:
I notice in the first page image, War Plan Red, of interest to me as I did a mod for darkest hour called Homeland, where the USA and ENG fight a war in 1935...

War Plan Red is also on the image. But I'm now confused as in an earlier DD, wasn't there an issue with Democracies going to war against eachother? Maybe my memory is incorrect?

So if War Plan Red is possible and my memory is correct, how can this occur please?

Don't get me wrong, I'd LOVE to play THAT game... (Britain still has an empire, and the USA is pre-empire ... )
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I think that a reason for war or whatever bypasses that restriction, you just can't fabricate a war against a democracy.
Failing that, then it would mean Red changes you to a Communist country, which would be weird but ok. (It does show the hammer and sickle so maybe that's it)
 
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Skyhascheese said:
you can take over the entirety of south america without the usa intervening, unless world tension grows too high
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Yeah, this is what I conclude too.

The USA guarntees are against outside influence.

They will not, for example, take kindly to Britain expanding outside of Belize, Guyana or Jamaica.


Super-Soviet said:
So, if one was to enter a local South American war as a ally from the outside, would that circumvent the guarantee? That could be a cunning way to sneak past the Monroe Doctrine and establish a South American sphere for the New Order.
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Well... IRL, the USA would tell you to back off.

But...

And this starts to get a little complex if one of the South American countries (for reasons of bing in a faction with a European Power, declares war on Britain.

IRL, the USA would stand & watch as Britain spanked all the forces of the "offender" but still wouldn't be very happy about any British expansion or other increased influence (puppeting) in the region.
 
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Super-Soviet said:
So, if one was to enter a local South American war as a ally from the outside, would that circumvent the guarantee? That could be a cunning way to sneak past the Monroe Doctrine and establish a South American sphere for the New Order.
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Possibly, if the guarantee check is only performed when the war is declared. If all the governments are democracies in Latin America no-one can declare on each other however (unless via national focus, like declare on neighbor or something), but if you can get one of them into a fascist or communist government type you should be all good...unless that makes the USA drop it's guarantee of the country then.

But then you need to wait for your ally to declare again... since if you made the declaration the USA would be called in.

I wonder what would happen if they join a faction, is the guarantee dropped then?
novapaddy said:
I notice in the first page image, War Plan Red, of interest to me as I did a mod for darkest hour called Homeland, where the USA and ENG fight a war in 1935...

War Plan Red is also on the image. But I'm now confused as in an earlier DD, wasn't there an issue with Democracies going to war against eachother? Maybe my memory is incorrect?

So if War Plan Red is possible and my memory is correct, how can this occur please?

Don't get me wrong, I'd LOVE to play THAT game...
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Yes democracies can't declare on each other if I remember correctly, but wars that are started via national focuses circumvent this. National focuses can overrule regular rules, to break them when needed.
 
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I noticed in the NF tree that there is "limited intervention". Would this be the direction that one would take to move towards the "Undeclared War" and if not well this be represented in some way in HOI IV?
 
I think limited intervention remove the undisturbed isolation economy law which can't be removed by normal means however it could be "The giant wakes" that remove that law.

Johan said:
The US also have disarmed nation & undisturbed isolation as laws from the start, which needs to be changed to unleash their power.
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Emren said:
Cue loud, rowdy American patriots. I can't figure out if this is in jest, ignorance, or serious.
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If I were to take a guess it's connected with "land of the free" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Star-Spangled_Banner
and the notion of American Exceptionalism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_exceptionalism
, since the modifier makes you unable to join any faction which shares a different ideology its probably meant to foster the idea that USA should be the leader of things and manifest its destiny as hegemon of the Americas and extend outwards into a global superpower, not being led by someone else.

But what do I know? :)
 
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Johan said:
Next week we'll be explaining why its a bad idea to tell 40 mechanized divisions to attack the Gobi desert.
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Does this mean supply system!? I will put up a shrine in your honor if you do it, Johan.

Also, USA has 22 IC? Maybe i'm missing something here but didn't they have like 400 IC at the start of the game in Hoi3?
 
I wonder if UK will have some national focus called something like reclaming old colonies which will allow war for the annexation of US;)

Company007 said:
Also, USA has 22 IC? Maybe i'm missing something here but didn't they have like 400 IC at the start of the game in Hoi3?
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US have 10 military factories 22 dockyards and 75 civilian factories at 1936.
 
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Company007 said:
Does this mean supply system!? I will put up a shrine in your honor if you do it, Johan.
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All bets are on it at the moment, it would also coincide with the result of Beta selection going out to users who were selected - only who were chosen, it's not clear when the Beta will begin though. But a DD about supply would most likely help all Beta testers to better understand the system they will be testing and being able to play the game better to find bugs and not attribute "bugs" just to a lack of knowledge.

Not to mention the rest of us who are eagerly awaiting one of the most important DDs of them all :) The system which will make or break your army...
 
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fabius said:
Supply DD confirmed !!!! Hope so :D
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Don't be silly. It's a bout sunshades and that tanks in the desert get really really hot.
 
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Looks great! I'm happy to hear I'll be able to create my Brazilian South America without those pesky Yanks getting in the way. :)

Also Beta hype! Also Supply DD hype! :D
 
I'll be going for Axis USA and throw all my troops on the West Coast to support the Japanese! Time to make things weird.
 
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Johan said:
USA starts with two national spirits.
  • The Great Depression, costing 1 PP every day, until removed in the 1940 election.
  • Home of the Free, which allows them to create factions, but not to join any faction led by another ideology.
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I guess US is not considered a victor of WW1 as it did not get that national spirit;)
Well it is not a good one anyway:D
 
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Rubidium said:
To quote Sheridan:
"If I owned Texas and Hell, I'd rent Texas and live in Hell."

Your proposal would make that easier.
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Well considering Hell is a quaint little town in Norway I'd agree.
250px-Hell2.jpg
 
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