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I should be dead by Monday in the lite.

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Does this still refer to GM conversations, or are we also not allowed to quote/reproduce PMs between players?

Also, I think the protection order should be made more explicit. What happens if e.g. the guardian angel and doctor protect the same person, and that person gets hunted?
Any and all PM quoting is forbidden.

Guardian Angel protection first, then doctor. If a double protected person is attacked, GA is first resistance they meet.

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Does that mean you aren't allowed to quote PMs in PMs?

This is correct.

Just to clarify:
Brutal is a baddie only trait, correct?
Will leader override even a hugely favored vote like 10 on outed wolf and outed wolf on 1 person?
Will Blessed allow a player to survive any nightly attack, not just a hunt?
What the hell is the point of the Doctor?

Brutal is Werewolf/Vampire specific.

The role leader can change any lynch once per game.

Blessed protects against all nightly attacks.

To protect goodies.
 
This is correct.
That is fascist and disgusting!
So you aren't allowed to quote within the same PM thread? I.e. quote something which was posted previously in the PM thread?
 
That is fascist and disgusting!
So you aren't allowed to quote within the same PM thread? I.e. quote something which was posted previously in the PM thread?
Why would that be disallowed?

Please use common sense before asking another question.
 
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Why wouldn't that be disallowed?

Please use common sense before asking another question.
Perhaps because that is putting players at a disadvantage just because the new forum has PM threads instead of making quote mountains like in the old forum. Without being able to quote from the same PM you are replying to it can get cumbersome. And seriously there isn't much sense to it, since everybody in that PM can see that PM in the first place so quoting it just makes it easier to see what you mean. Especially given how there aren't post numbers in PM threads so you would need to manually count...
 
Perhaps because that is putting players at a disadvantage just because the new forum has PM threads instead of making quote mountains like in the old forum. Without being able to quote from the same PM you are replying to it can get cumbersome. And seriously there isn't much sense to it, since everybody in that PM can see that PM in the first place so quoting it just makes it easier to see what you mean. Especially given how there aren't post numbers in PM threads so you would need to manually count...
I typed wrong. Of course that is allowed.

What is disallowed is reproducing private conversations to someone who was not party to the original conversation. That is cheating in the eyes of the rules.
 
What is disallowed is reproducing private conversations to someone who was not party to the original conversation. That is cheating in the eyes of the rules.
Not sure I like that, but at least it means that fake outings becomes easier to make which is good.

What about JLs? Can the seer add a new scan to an already ongoing JL PM? To a JL PM where everybody else except the seer is dead?
 
Not sure I like that, but at least it means that fake outings becomes easier to make which is good.

What about JLs? Can the seer add a new scan to an already ongoing JL PM? To a JL PM where everybody else except the seer is dead?
No.
 
So as far as I understood the seer must start a new PM with every scan? Well that makes fake JLs much easier.
 
I'm all (big furry) ears right now.

inb4 wagon outs
 
So as far as I understood the seer must start a new PM with every scan? Well that makes fake JLs much easier.
Well I would guess the seer can start a new convo and include all the previous people plus the new one.

Not crazy about the PM thing in general, but meh

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I fully agree with disallowing PM quoting in other PM conversations. Interesting that Mulish Wag went absolutely cray-cray when I introduced that rule in my game, but now doesn't mind it too much. I guess he is more afraid of EURO than of me :/
 
Well I would guess the seer can start a new convo and include all the previous people plus the new one.
That won't help much if all the rest are dead as they aren't allowed to say anything, but can just watch as the fake JL evolves.
I fully agree with disallowing PM quoting in other PM conversations. Interesting that Mulish Wag went absolutely cray-cray when I introduced that rule in my game, but now doesn't mind it too much. I guess he is more afraid of EURO than of me :/
Oh I still don't like it. But there is a crucial difference: EURO doesn't allow quoting PMs in thread. (Plus you were about PM numbers in PMS; not quoting PMs at all.)
 
That won't help much if all the rest are dead as they aren't allowed to say anything, but can just watch as the fake JL evolves.
I'm okay with that. I like being able to quote PMs but using convos themselves as proof of a claim is too meta.
 
I'm okay with that. I like being able to quote PMs but using convos themselves as proof of a claim is too meta.
But you can't quote PMs to the new person, since he wasn't part of the original JL PM and can't be added. Adding the dead people does nothing except possibly giving some meta proof to people not thinking too hard about it. (And I too find it good that you can't proof a JL claim through such meta. That is the one thing I am most annoyed about in the new forum PM system that you can't feign some dead mouthpiece was part of the JL; which you could in the old. This not being allowed to add new scans to existing JL PMs goes around that problem.
 
I'm okay with that. I like being able to quote PMs but using convos themselves as proof of a claim is too meta.

Absolutely agree. Scanners should always receive results in their role PM.
 
Absolutely agree. Scanners should always receive results in their role PM.
Duh.

I meant in the case of where is a dead goodie who outed a baddie and someone contacts you claiming to be the seer by adding you to convo where they discuss the outing with said dead goodie. It's pretty hard to say the person contacting you isn't the seer in that case, and that's the problem.
 
What of paraphrasing private messages?

Allowed. Paraphrasing has always been allowed, directly copying is the bone of contention here.-
 
Duh.

I meant in the case of where is a dead goodie who outed a baddie and someone contacts you claiming to be the seer by adding you to convo where they discuss the outing with said dead goodie. It's pretty hard to say the person contacting you isn't the seer in that case, and that's the problem.
And if you don't add the scan to such a PM the scan might very well out you for fake JLing.

Hence why not allowing people to add people to such PMs is a good thing.