@Wiz , What about machine end-game crisis and synthetic ascension?
Will the synthetic ascended race immune to it?
Will the synthetic ascended race immune to it?
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Well, that's my question. Gonna have to stop enslaving Synths... OR I keep enslaving Synths, and then give into the demands of my angry slave faction right before ascension.
Empires that reached the AI Accord are already immune to the spreading of the AI Rebellion (but not to infiltrationor invasion).
Technological Acension is the AI Accord Tier 2.
I am more worried of the AI Rebellion will consider your single robot species (not default Synths) a friend or not.
I would guess your organic Materialist Faction will already be pissed before ascension for enslaving Robots. Robots propably have the same effect on Materialist/Spiritualist that Xenos have on Xeno-Axis and Slavery on Authoritarian/Egalitarian Axis.
Unless maybe you are Collectivist/Materialist.
Xenophobic Fanatic Materialist. They love robots, but as soon as those robots put on airs by claiming sentience, then they're surprisingly okay with enslaving them which doubles their already significant industrial bonus immediately and allows them to be affected by slave production increases like the neural processing plant and specialized diet. Also, surprisingly easy to institute as I can just invade and supplant an existing pre-warp society and just start building robots, even before I get droid technology.
This whole turning my population into synthetics is really going to cut down on my mineral production late game.
This whole turning my population into synthetics is really going to cut down on my mineral production late game.
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Xenomorphs beat Psi Warriors
Psi Warriors beat Gene Warriors
Gene Warriors beat Xenomorphs
something like this?
And yes, army attachments should set on global policy or something.
Psi Warriors beat Gene Warriors
Gene Warriors beat Xenomorphs
something like this?
And yes, army attachments should set on global policy or something.
Thus far Robots never were considered Xenos for the Purposes of Enslavement, Happines and the like. If anything they are uniquely "Neutral" for Xenophobic tendencies.
Spiritualist/Materialsit Axis is like Xenophobe/Xenophile for Organics. The one hates them (unless enslaved). The other loves them and them having full rights.
If you are Materialsit, that is kind of the same as if you were Xenophile.
Meh, it is art assets and a UI to choose it. The Artists will get there eventually.Too bad about the generic only portraits, though.
Sounds like you are trying to make awakened fallen empire a sorta of end-game threat aka crisis for Synth empires.
Not quite what I had in mind for them but OK.
probably kept in case you get immigrants since it might take time to convert them to synths, this is assuming it works something like gene moding in converting pops time table ish…
But yeah if you don’t want to hold on to it and have no intention of allowing meat bags into your mechanical mecha then you could probably just trade it to an ally, or perhaps sell it to one of those independent trader satellites (forget what they're calleD).
But yeah if you don’t want to hold on to it and have no intention of allowing meat bags into your mechanical mecha then you could probably just trade it to an ally, or perhaps sell it to one of those independent trader satellites (forget what they're calleD).
Huh, to be 100% honest here, I don´t think the Keepers of Knowledge should be as antagonistic towards as a Ascended Synth Empire as they are towards A.I research in general, because
1- The KK are all about preventing dangerous/forbidden Knowledge from falling in the hands of those who can´t handle it, right? If your species has mastered AI and robotics tech to the point that you can freely convert flesh sentience into machine sentience, then you have more than proved that you CAN handle such knowledge, and won´t let a galaxy wide virus like the Machine Consciuosness to run amok.
2- I would be Materialists antagonizing Materialists, which is kinda odd.
In fact, I think it would make more sense for the KK to antagonize the Psionic Ascension Path, because
1- The Psionic Ascension involves dealing with the Shroud, which seens to be similar/inspired/modeled after the Warp from Warhammer 40k, and if I know a thing or 2 about 40k, the Warp *IS* Forbidden Knowledge (Seriously, you really, really, really, really REALLY don´t want to know)
2- Having Materialists opposing Spiritualists seems more "natural", so to speak.
Thoughts?
As long as the spiritualist FE's and AE's despise the heathens forfeiting their biological bodies for soulless tin cans, I'm in.
I dunno, it's going to seem weird switching antagonists mid-stream like that. The Keepers of Knowledge having been on openly hostile since I first researched artificial intelligence, but all of a sudden they're cool with me and I need to worry about the religious nuts who'd only ever shown me indifferent scorn for not sharing their ideology?
Well there is a pretty big difference in attitude between their reaction to synth ascension (Only declare war once awakened, don't care otherwise) and synth research (immediately demand cease research, declare war if you don't, whether they're awakened or not). Keep in mind that once awakened, their agenda shifts to more "Galactic Monopoly on Technology" than "Keep dangerous research from happening".
IMHO, it would make perfect sense, as your people would be willingly casting aside their divine flame/spirits/souls in order to become abominations/playing God.
AS I said, Don´t you think that, if you managed to progress THAT far in the Synth Ascension Path, then haven´t you PROVED, beyond doubt, that you can handle the knowledge?
IMHO I always got the feeling that, once awakened, their agenda didn´t change at all, it just becomes proactive.
To expand on your example, it would be "Keep dangerous research from happening THROUGH Galactic Monopoly on Technology".
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