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Oh... So I'm not dead because of an outing. Right, I'll need some time to try and analyze the situation. Note to self. Add low lying woodlands as a place to not get drunk in.

what about open farmland dotted with irrigation ditches? those are fun.
 
what about open farmland dotted with irrigation ditches? those are fun.

Hmm... Will try, but as history has proven, I have bad luck with irrigation ditches.
 
I still think Health is a good candidate.

Vote Health
 
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Uncle Nasse shows how to use his good senses, like drink sense and navel sense:


So pay attention you little shitpants and listen up.



Presuming, of course, the non-eliminated pack had a standing hunt order set up.

Well I kind of assumed no pack would leave standing orders unsent at this point. But I suppose that's (slim) possibility, too.


The PMs about the_hdk went out just after I voted him the first time in case someone wants to know exactly which votes were pre-outing and pre-anybody-else-knew.

Focusing on the red pack to see who had any interactions with them (voting wise, I don't have time to go through the thread).

Arkasas was a red wolf and I think (but we don't know for sure) alynkio was a red cultist

Claude LC [] - Important vote on Arkasas, unlikely Red
Cliges [] - Important vote on Arkasas, unlikely Red
johho888 [] - early vote on Arkasas so unlikely Red at that time at least. Could possibly have been turned last night assuming the GA didn't hear the call.
Audren [] - cast the deciding vote that lynched Arkasas. But in doing so he also saved himself so no goodie points there. OTOH Arkasas was on Audren for much of that day so maybe not a Red after all. Arkasas was on Audren also two days before - that doesn't really look like a packmate. Helped lynch alynkio. I'd say probably not Red.

Canadian_95_RTS [] - Arkasas seemed to push for him over alynkio as a candidate vs johho. But he was a zombie risking autolynch so might have been a sell-out.

Gen. Skobelev [] - First to vote alynkio and IIRC made the case for it. Since we don't know for sure alynkio's pack we can't rule him out but he wouldn't be my first pick for Red, partly because votings and partly because behaviour in the thread.
Eternaly_Lost [] - on Audren vs Arkasas, initially on johho but then changed to alynkio. Not my first pick for a Red but not impossible.

punkbob [] - Pushed Arkasas into lead but then sniped to get a Arkasas-Audren TIE. no vote on the alynkio day. Not sure what to make of that snipe. Tenatively goodie?
Sleepyhead [] - Late vote on alynkio (after he already had the lead), throw-away on the Arkasas day.

deathbywombat [] - abysmal voting records (throw-aways) on the days that matters regarding Reds. Could well be a Red.
Health [] - was on Canadian on the alynkio/johho day. Throw-away on Arkasas day. Could well be a Red. Not likely packmate of BlackCrown though.
Steed [] - on johho vs alynkio, on Audren vs Arkasas. Almost too bad to be a likely Red... Also we might need (fear) his gun.
BlackCrown [] - on johho vs alynkio, on johho vs Arkasas/Audren. Almost too bad to be a likely Red...
Beamed [] - on johho vs alynkio, on johho vs Arkasas/Audren. Almost too bad to be a likely Red...
Daleksbane [] - on johho vs alynkio, on johho vs Arkasas/Audren. Almost too bad to be a likely Red...

Just few nitpicks about those on top of your goodie list but I generally find it pretty decent synopsis.

Claude did have quite the bandwagonish vote on already-doomed alynkio which could be alibi vote. However I'll concur that his vote on Arkasas was pretty vital in getting him killed so unlikely red.

Cliges got fairly important vote on Arkasas but it's also noteworthy to see it was vote that tied Arkasas with Audren. Kind of "natural" vote in that moment (which of course turned out to be important) so I wouldn't consider it quite as important vote as what Claude put. But anti-red vote nonetheless.

Johho was himself target of bandwagon for the second day in a row when he voted Arkasas so it was self-defence. Important vote in getting Arkasas lynched nonetheless and of course Johho ain't dark red in case that pack ain't wiped out.

Audren's vote wasn't the killing vote since Audren & Arkasas were tied while Audren had his vote elsewhere. He simply saved himself the only way he could. Now, Arkasas on the other hand seemed to have bit of a fetish in voting Audren so I wouldn't consider them packmates because of that but if you judge by Audren's voting alone you can't say he killed Arkasas.

Yeah, you do have a point with "almost too bad voting record to be baddie" but I doubt every wolf would swarm over packmates to put alibi votes in. On some individual cases it's not a bad thing to keep in mind (like Johho earlier said about the_hdk liking alibi votes) but generally speaking I'd rather see someone with bad voting record be lynched than someone with decent voting record.

anyways, a lot of players haven't seen action nor have offered much opinions of their own.


Oh... So I'm not dead because of an outing. Right, I'll need some time to try and analyze the situation. Note to self. Add low lying woodlands as a place to not get drunk in.

You better do. Also, whatwhatwhat? Uncle Nasse doesn't understand how there could be a place to not get drunk in?


I'm going to go with Beamed again, for the same reasons as yesterday.

Vote Beamed

Hmm. Any thoughts on any other players/candidates?


Since I'm still uncertain about both for reds and whether another will compete for votes:
Vote beamed

I don't get the "whether another will compete for votes". If you have a case against somebody, please make it.


I still think Health is a good candidate.

Vote Health

Could you also give some opinion on some players? You are practically unknown to all since Black_Griffin was zombieing around so speaking up would be most appreciated.
 
Beamed: 3
Gen. Skobelev [633]
Sleepyhead [642]
Daleksbane [644]

Health: 3
Audren [609]
BlackCrown [612]
Canadian_95_RTS [645]


not voted: 9
Health []
deathbywombat []
Steed []
johho888 []
punkbob []
Beamed []
Cliges []
Claude LC []
Eternaly_Lost []
 
Uncle Nasse is equal parts terrifying and ridiculous.

He wouldn't be out of place on The League Of Gentlemen.
 
A reminder on the Cursed trait as yet another no hunt appears. We shouldn't continue to trust early votes, as their owners may well have changed.

Going to simply ignore all the earlier voting isn't the best way since original wolves have obviously been baddies from the start and their voting pattern could be detected. But yeah, keeping in mind the possibility of turning isn't bad idea. So let's say the weight of early votes has been lessened but obviously we have to work with something.


Uncle Nasse is equal parts terrifying and ridiculous.

He wouldn't be out of place on The League Of Gentlemen.

Welcome to having a glimpse at 80's Finland!
 
You better do. Also, whatwhatwhat? Uncle Nasse doesn't understand how there could be a place to not get drunk in?

I just prefer not to wake up in places where water has appeared over night.
 
Alright, as far as other reads go, I would say I have a general goodie vibe from Audren and DeathbyWombat, slight baddie coming from BlackCrown. I get almost nothing from Beamed though, I can't really explain it. Other than that, I don't have strong reads on anyone at the moment.
 
Right onto analysis. Yesterday we had an outing and so whilst there is not much to gain from it, we still have something to do. Besides finding the quite sky high run up that I had a bit odd, largely due to the full on reliance of trust in Audren, I've been finding E_L quite suspicious to be honest.

What do I mean by that, well let us turn to the vote counts.
On D0 E_L voted for none of the major candidates, though this appears to largely be a moot point due to the fact that none of the wolves seemingly voted in unison to get the trait for one of their own. Their spread has been quite wide and the only significant thing seems to be k-59 and alynkio voting together. There might be something more to Arky's so called sycophantic ways for voting Beamed, but currently I doubt it.

On D1 E_L once again avoided the major candidates, lacking any sort of rhyme or reason for such action and citing the need for time to pass before analyzing votes became useful.

On D2 E_L once again avoided major candidates and I'm starting to recognize a pattern here. Quite a throwaway vote that similarly to the day before that led to nothing.

On D3 E_L participated in the run-ups of johho and alynkio, one of which netted us a cultist. His reasons for going onto johho and then off of him to head onto alynkio were light at best and bandwagony at worst.

On D4 E_L jumped on the bandwagon that formed on Aud and never came off it. Lack of rhyme and reason for yet another vote.

On D5 E_L went avoided a major candidate until the outing, at which point he went along with it.

In combination with the general quietness, this twitchiness on bandwagoning or generally avoiding the main candidates E_L looks more and more like a Wolf to me. As such...

VOTE E_L
 
happy fathers day!

if i get a count at deadline, you can expect short update on time. otherwise will be late.
 
Health: 4
Audren [609]
BlackCrown [612]
Canadian_95_RTS [645]
Beamed [653]

Beamed: 3
Gen. Skobelev [633]
Sleepyhead [642]
Daleksbane [644]

Eternaly_Lost: 1
Health [656]


not voted: 7
deathbywombat []
Steed []
johho888 []
punkbob []
Cliges []
Claude LC []
Eternaly_Lost []
 
I have developed disdainful distrust dealing directly with Audren this game.

Will review. Not sure how much I like any of these candidates.
 
I'm going to go with Beamed again, for the same reasons as yesterday.

Vote Beamed
That being:

Vote Beamed

We had a staff party at Veridian Dynamics yesterday, hence my inactivity. Not enjoying this pile of voters, and beam me up Scotty is the worst offender.
which I think referred to Beamed piling on Health.

In a way I can sympathize with that since we've had quite a few bandwagons (and counter-wagins) this game and Beamed has been in on a few but so have for instance Daleksbane and BlackCrown, not to mention yourself. OTOH I'd really like to see Health allignment because so many have had interactions with him.

Johho was himself target of bandwagon for the second day in a row when he voted Arkasas so it was self-defence.
I guess. I could have picked easier targets though. But if you want to be the devil's advocate, sure as a baddie about to get lynched I might have built a case against a packmate to give him a better chance later on.

(like Johho earlier said about the_hdk liking alibi votes)
I actually don't think @the_hdk was much into alibi votes back in the days, I just said that to try to convince all of you to vote him since I knew he was a wolf. That said, you should always consider if a vote on/by a baddie could have been an alibi vote.