Meh, why put on the fifth proposer on your team? It just ensures we're having to put our trust in him. If we're going to have to trust Cody either way, may as well have him be the proposer.
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Neither team has me on it, and Cody's team would have two card holders so that'd provide more information.
Neither team has me on it, and Cody's team would have two card holders so that'd provide more information.
Because if the team is approved, we will know something more about Cody which will help us know whether to trust his team and (more importantly) the people he gives cards to.
Eh, I'm with aedan on this one. We have no choice on cody now, and we get information from everything that happens. At this point I trust aedan with the cards more than cody, so
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I don't really see having no choice on cody as a bad thing since it's round 1. You're going to base the cody choice on what, anyway? Everyone is equal at this point, in my mind. The only considerations are for how our choices will shape things in the future. I mean, you're doing exactly that - you're not choosing Cody's team because you trust DeChat more than me on this team, but because you trust Aedan more than Cody to get the cards later.
Although I don't really see why that is. What has cody done that is distrustful so far?
He hasn't done anything particularly distrustful, I just dislike that we have no choice whatsoever on him, which is somewhat suspicious on it's own. I'm not going to go around flinging accusations at your request, I just think aedan is slightly more trustworthy at this point. Sure, he could just as easily be a spy, but so could anybody.
Besides, ignoring suspicion, this is an awful lot of trust to put in cody without any real specific reason to trust him. Let's not put all out eggs in one basket, so to speak. This way he gets his team, as fated by your proposal, and aedan gets some cards (and we'll cross that bridge when we get there).
Actually, my putting Cody on this team doesn't in any way make him more likely to be a spy. Think about it: If I am a spy, then since I'm 4th and Cody is 5th in leader order there was gonna be a spy on this mission anyway. Putting a second one on does not help me in any way. If any thing, it would be bad because of the possibility of a double-sabotage. And if I am not a spy, then the whole point is moot since I have no way to know Cody's allegiance and I have already explained my reasons for choosing him.
Well, yeah, that's my point. We know nothing about anyone, but we're gonna have to trust 2 people in the end. What does it matter if Cody is one of them, unless you know something specific about him?
I could see one reasonable argument against this: The fact that if my team is approved, Cody both gets to be on a team and hand out cards. That is making him more important than some, but that has always been my goal in every resistance game I've ever played: You will never have enough info to clear everyone. You must concentrate your info on a handful of people to be almost certain of their allegiance and then use that to figure out the rest based on their relationships with others. Concentrated info is more useful than scattered info and has proven to be so in every single game of resistance that I've played here.
But "forcing" you to have cody on this team means nothing when we know nothing more or less about him than anyone else.
Did you miss that part of my post, or are you pretending that you thought of it first?
Did you miss that part of my post, or are you pretending that you thought of it first?
I had understood that to be more of the "forcing him on the team". Either way, I did procede to explain that that is sort of the whole point.
I disagree. Who gives people power is almost as important as what those people do with that power. I believe heaping power on people for the sake of information gathering poisions the well of information gathering.
Well then I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this. My strategy has worked well for me over the course of many games, but to be fair there is nothing solid, and it is all different philosophies. But I will not stop trying to gather as much info as possible on select people, I cannot stress enough the importance of knowing (almost) for certain that even one person is a spy or resistance in a game this small.
Fair enough. We always do seem to run into an argument about resistance strategy round 1. I guess it's because there is little else to discuss.
Yeah, makes sense. Sad that it seems to be costing me my spot on the team, but oh well.
Hrm... A few too many people seem keen on letting things go to the 5th proposal. I'll keep that in mind for next round.
But for now, I'll see where it leads us.
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But for now, I'll see where it leads us.
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There is no reason not to. Cody told us his team already so it's a direct comparison between Day 4 and Day 5, Day 5's is better. If Cody is lying then he will come off as a spy.
You have rejected every proposal this round, including not just proposals you were on but the proposal you made yourself. I don't think you have room to criticise us for pushing to 5 proposals.