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I don't like the change to Closer Combat at all... You could at least have mentioned it when the update was announced, so those of us who play ranked would have had a chance to voice our opinions.
 
I don't like the change to Closer Combat at all... You could at least have mentioned it when the update was announced, so those of us who play ranked would have had a chance to voice our opinions.

hahaha.. dude, ther was a full closed beta tester team, comprised of almost all the top competetive players that voiced ther opinions about patches and this new game mode... guess what, Eugen moved away and made public beta test for the last patch cause... They dont give a single fuck about opinions and idears unless u tell them what an awsom job they did.
 
hahaha.. dude, ther was a full closed beta tester team, comprised of almost all the top competetive players that voiced ther opinions about patches and this new game mode... guess what, Eugen moved away and made public beta test for the last patch cause... They dont give a single fuck about opinions and idears unless u tell them what an awsom job they did.

There are ways to show you're disappointed without speaking that way. I was disappointed when they limited 10vs10 games to 30min, they did delete this change.
Plus it's a bit dishonest if you ask me, they made a survey and did back up on some changes due to survey results, overall they are open to their community.
 
There are ways to show you're disappointed without speaking that way. I was disappointed when they limited 10vs10 games to 30min, they did delete this change.
Plus it's a bit dishonest if you ask me, they made a survey and did back up on some changes due to survey results, overall they are open to their community.

Uhh, did my words hurt ur feefees? Dont rly care u know.. So back to the point.
Are u part of the closed beta testers? If not pls dont tell me they listend to us at all. They didnt..

The point is that over a month ago this game mode was alredy showen as massivly unbalanced and a blank removel of softskill, guess what, nothing changed and implemented as the new ranked~
They push out patch notes.. It takes us 10 minuts of brainstorming on the CBT discord to find flaws in 2/3 of the points.. nothing happens at all and then maybe 1 of the flaws gets removed after the damage is done , while the rest stays..
 
Uhh, did my words hurt ur feefees? Dont rly care u know.. So back to the point.
Are u part of the closed beta testers? If not pls dont tell me they listend to us at all. They didnt..

The point is that over a month ago this game mode was alredy showen as massivly unbalanced and a blank removel of softskill, guess what, nothing changed and implemented as the new ranked~
They push out patch notes.. It takes us 10 minuts of brainstorming on the CBT discord to find flaws in 2/3 of the points.. nothing happens at all and then maybe 1 of the flaws gets removed after the damage is done , while the rest stays..

I'm not hurt by your words, i'm just wondering what you really expect from Eugen devs if you speak to them like that, imo you're hurting what i'd call a legitimate complaint i've seen from ranked players, in few words i'm just saying you could do more wrong than good being such a dick.

Honestly, it's just Eugen devs are not the worst i've seen in matter of taking into account community ideas. Of course everything is not fixed nor perfect and everything is not going your way nor mine. I was pissed when they made such change about 10vs10 30min and i understand very well how ranked players may be pissed right now, we did complain and they heard us.
 
They dont give a single fuck about opinions and idears unless u tell them what an awsom job they did.

Yeah... Remember Wargame....

Plus it's a bit dishonest if you ask me, they made a survey and did back up on some changes due to survey results, overall they are open to their community.

Who cares about their surveys when they make a SIGNIFICANT and unexpected change to the one of the main modes in game?

Honestly, it's just Eugen devs are not the worst i've seen in matter of taking into account community ideas. Of course everything is not fixed nor perfect and everything is not going your way nor mine. I was pissed when they made such change about 10vs10 30min and i understand very well how ranked players may be pissed right now, we did complain and they heard us.

How fast they can revert this? Not at this year I can say.
 
I would be a dev reading you right now, i would definitely go for "stfu" "gfy" and "gtfo" :)

I would give you a famous soprano line, you paid a game in its final state and you're entitled to shit

I hope and think the devs are more mature than that. They ruined 10v10 for a while by reducing the timelimit to 30 minutes, but changed it back pretty fast. Hopefully they will do the same here.
 
I would be a dev reading you right now, i would definitely go for "stfu" "gfy" and "gtfo" :)

Well do they anything else to the people pointing out problems? Nop.. and look how well the game runs in the meantime~
In the end numbers dont lie and we all can open the steam stats... http://steamcharts.com/app/572410#7d
This is what happens if u just ignore the competetive players in balance questions, refuse to even talk about fundamental problems
within the gamemecanics and take months for simple bug fixes on units..
 
Well do they anything else to the people pointing out problems? Nop.. and look how well the game runs in the meantime~
In the end numbers dont lie and we all can open the steam stats... http://steamcharts.com/app/572410#7d
This is what happens if u just ignore the competetive players in balance questions, refuse to even talk about fundamental problems
within the gamemecanics and take months for simple bug fixes on units..

I was like you 10 years ago, maybe i'm a bit older now (shit!) and see things differently.
As i said in the other post, the main argument is probly there was a ranked conquest gamemode people used to play without close combat rules with direct engagement on start, and they canno't play it anymore. It is the historical mode since the beginning when close combat is relatively new and it just disappeared.
So they feel cheated and some people will stop playing.
But devs are entitled to do whatever they want with their own game, you're entitled to shit. It's just in this case they are deleting something, which probly isn't their way of feeling things cause they consider close combat is pretty much the same and even an improvement of conquest to avoid starting deployment fuck ups. And this deletion is probly not a good idea. But they're entitled to improve their game the way they want.
 
I was like you 10 years ago, maybe i'm a bit older now (shit!) and see things differently.

Well and 10 years later ur still not in a position u have to work with costumers under ur owen responsebilety obviusly..

As i said in the other post, the main argument is probly there was a ranked conquest gamemode people used to play without close combat rules with direct engagement on start, and they canno't play it anymore. It is the historical mode since the beginning when close combat is relatively new and it just disappeared.
So they feel cheated and some people will stop playing.

As stated, its not about this mode comming into the game, it was in the game alredy and it was in the CBT way longer.. the problem is that the CBT told them this mode is extremly unbalanced and a nulled down version of the normal game. Even pushing the problem of 'Face Unloading' to the max. Evryone was ok with it being in the game but noone was happy about its state to the point it could never be a competetiv mode. Cause its even more unbalanced and nulled down. And so they desieded they make it the new ranked ofcurse.. Its simply a stupid decission, with a lot of people telling the that its stupid, showing directly how mutch they listen.

But devs are entitled to do whatever they want with their own game, you're entitled to shit. It's just in this case they are deleting something, which probly isn't their way of feeling things cause they consider close combat is pretty much the same and even an improvement of conquest to avoid starting deployment fuck ups. And this deletion is probly not a good idea. But they're entitled to improve their game the way they want.

If u ever have to work ur owen projekt to a custumer u will learn that yes, the cutsemer that pays ur bills is entiteld to u doing a good job. If u dont do this ur projekts will not sell and noone will pay ur bills. And well.. we cant rly say that the last 2 games of Eugen doing rly well cant we? Maybe even the last 3 tbh.. Its a matter of respect towards ur costumers and a matter of workspirit. Its a question of why u do ur job. Do it cause u wanne see the projekt having sucsess, u dont have any problem accepting failers and work on them. In Eugens case it looks more they do it for the personal glory, so evrything they do is perfekt by default and evryone that tells them its not working has to STFU.. Well and then the game is dead after 4 months.
 
If u ever have to work ur owen projekt to a custumer u will learn that yes, the cutsemer that pays ur bills is entiteld to u doing a good job. If u dont do this ur projekts will not sell and noone will pay ur bills. And well.. we cant rly say that the last 2 games of Eugen doing rly well cant we? Maybe even the last 3 tbh.. Its a matter of respect towards ur costumers and a matter of workspirit. Its a question of why u do ur job. Do it cause u wanne see the projekt having sucsess, u dont have any problem accepting failers and work on them. In Eugens case it looks more they do it for the personal glory, so evrything they do is perfekt by default and evryone that tells them its not working has to STFU.. Well and then the game is dead after 4 months.

My point entirely. You're an old customer, you do not pay a month fee nor have a guarantee, you're entitled to shit, and especially not entitled to lack of respect making scenes and trials of intent. You speak about respect, show some.
 
we cant rly say that the last 2 games of Eugen doing rly well cant we? Maybe even the last 3 tbh.. .

Ah Gondie,pls ceep it cool,at least for Xmass,share that Weichnatchts feeling with us,dont be so pissed of..

Just out of curiousity,by the last 2 games and maybe 3rd you mean SD 44 and Act of Agwhatever and Wargame or AoA,WRD and WAB?1000 players that still play WRD on everyday basis dont agree with you the same as me,maybe its a shitty and "not done well" game for your camping style of play but the numbers dont lie as you say in previous post about for me still not that bad 400 players online of SD 44.

You are not doing anything good with your rants,take it as it is and dont take it personally,its Eugen,thats how they roll.I remember the first Marshals days and the french guy Darricks who remind me a bit of you,was invited into the Marshals and left the Marshals after few days because he didnt wanna have rents like you do now after every patch,he realised early how the game is played by U*Gen.

Enjoy Xmass and they will change the ranked game mode for sure for you and the 10-20 others that still play,dont worry...
 
Really? Maybe then they would actually go back to releasing FINISHED games, not that half backed crap that most of the games nowadays are on release day!?!

Without Kickstarter alpha builds and early releases you wouldn't have seen games like Elite Dangerous, Divinity Original Sin, The Long Dark, Subnautica, Rimworld, Banished...