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BunglingLummox said:
No you can't. This thread is for bickering, not true argument, which involves an attempt to persuade. BattleWords only, please.
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Your so bad at being a MechWarrior I could beat you and your whole directorate with just anti-aircraft weapons.
 
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TaurianMerc said:
pfft, only one pom-pom?

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Or would the import tax be too much for you antipodeans to afford all 8?
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I don't need the extra barrels, Mine's the ++++++++ model with money I saved on not paying import taxes I purchased extra Handwavium coated ammo. :)
 
Colonel Flamestalker said:
I don't need the extra barrels, Mine's the ++++++++ model with money I saved on not paying import taxes I purchased extra Handwavium coated ammo. :)
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It's the money you saved selling all your other weapons for the pure perfection that is a battery of small autocannons :D.
 
Edmon said:
No-one is about to mod the game to make the AC/2 worse than it already is. Can you please stop asking this question, I know it's meant to provoke me and no I won't bite. But I am going to call you out on it if you keep doing it.

If we exclude multiplayer which this suggestion was meant to help balance and if it were possible for the A.I. to get 10/10/10/10 pilots with ++ weapons, then you would be correct that a Jagermech with 2 AC2's would get 2 chances to hit the head with it's precision shot, if it had totally ideal conditions at 18% per shot and if it aimed for the head, which is typically does not unless the head is a potental one shot.

And under those same conditions, a mech would have more chance to remove the head entirely (this is the goal right?), with 2 ++damage one shot weapons such as PPC's or large lasers, or even AC'10 or 20's without using called shot at all. Which should be more than capable of 1 shotting a head region with ++ damage modifiers. Rather than needing the 3 shots the AC2 requires.

In those impractical and frankly impossible conditions, outside of 1400+ day postgame, then you are correct.

And this is the problem with reading the stats on a website and arranging tests like yours. The situation you describe has never occured for me in over 3000+ in game days of playing. The highest skill I've ever seen on an A.I. pilot before post game (and honestly, I frankly didn't see one after) is 8.

And you totally ignore the fact that you are going to more consistantly and more rapidly get kills if you just fire at the CT and ignore the head entirely. 10/10/10/10 AI with ++ accuracy weapons are going to pile into the CT. This is where the awful DPS of the AC2 is going to let you down.

Basically, your case makes no sense, because in the situation where it makes sense you are better off loading other weapons and focusing the CT. Which is what the A.I. actually likes to do, when you are knocked down, unless you've lost a leg and then it likes to go for the other leg.
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Fine. Then you're wrong. Plain and simple. If you were playing with a mod, then that would have given you an opportunity to save face. But since you are so vehement about it, then you just have to accept that you're dead wrong. Then again, I'm not sure where you think modding the game to lower called shot chances or lowering the gunnery bonuses is somehow nerfing the AC/2. I think you're just so obsessed and/or angry that you simply won't let go of the fact that you've been definitively proven wrong. I've posted the screen shots of both, so there's nothing more to say about this.

This is the first time you've mentioned multiplayer (previous posts have discussed the AI and being outnumbered at length, which are part of the single-player experience). Okay, so you're moving the goalposts. Fine. I can still do the same thing in multiplayer. Even a stock Jagermech has the same advantages. Hang back near the edge of the map while you engage the other player with your remaining mechs. Jagermech(s) gain line of sight, and free head shots until your heart's content.

Pilots can't get 18% head shots in multiplayer, you say? Oh, what's this? I clicked on Multiplayer, and this was the first configuration that popped up! Do you see that tactics score for my random pilot?
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Now you're really irritating me. I'm getting sick of these stupid accusations of "reading on a website" and all that nonsense. It's time for you to swallow your pride, stop acting like an ***, and admit that you're wrong. End of story.
 

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Dayman107 said:
Fine. Then you're wrong. Plain and simple. If you were playing with a mod, then that would have given you an opportunity to save face. But since you are so vehement about it, then you just have to accept that you're dead wrong. Then again, I'm not sure where you think modding the game to lower called shot chances or lowering the gunnery bonuses is somehow nerfing the AC/2. I think you're just so obsessed and/or angry that you simply won't let go of the fact that you've been definitively proven wrong. I've posted the screen shots of both, so there's nothing more to say about this.

This is the first time you've mentioned multiplayer (previous posts have discussed the AI and being outnumbered at length, which are part of the single-player experience). Okay, so you're moving the goalposts. Fine. I can still do the same thing in multiplayer. Even a stock Jagermech has the same advantages. Hang back near the edge of the map while you engage the other player with your remaining mechs. Jagermech(s) gain line of sight, and free head shots until your heart's content.

Pilots can't get 18% head shots in multiplayer, you say? Oh, what's this? I clicked on Multiplayer, and this was the first configuration that popped up! Do you see that tactics score for my random pilot?
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Now you're really irritating me. I'm getting sick of these stupid accusations of "reading on a website" and all that nonsense. It's time for you to swallow your pride, stop acting like an ***, and admit that you're wrong. End of story.
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I'm sorry, can you read to me what point three on the original post says?

Also, you need a tactics of 9 for master called shot (and a gunney of 3 is not going to help you land it).

Ugh.

I'm not in this to "save face". You are arguing that the worst weapon in the game shouldn't get what is a moderate buff that will help it still be less effective than most/all other weapons.

And using incredibly unlikely (or in multiplayer, impossible) edge cases to try and prove it.

And why is beyond me.
 
Why I tried putting off playing this new game is because I knew my addictive personality would get the better of me...37 hours since Monday night. I have a job and kids and a house...we've eaten out a lot this week and personal grooming standard has dropped somewhat and haven't done any art at all...

I gotta quit cold-turkey...or at least give me a location of a safe injection site.
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Hatchy said:
Why I tried putting off playing this new game is because I knew my addictive personality would get the better of me...37 hours since Monday night. I have a job and kids and a house...we've eaten out a lot this week and personal grooming standard has dropped somewhat and haven't done any art at all...

I gotta quit cold-turkey...or at least give me a location of a safe injection site.
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You think they'll let you go, now that they have their claws in you? :p
 
No preset drop weights.

If you want people to use lighter mechs, then create more high-end missions that give them reasons to want to use those mechs, and at the same time don't punish them for using those mechs by dropping multiple OpFor assault lances right where they must be fought to have any chance of completing the objective.

Don't fall into the trap of forcing other players to do what you personally would like to do, or what you think they "should" do.
 
Max_Killjoy said:
Don't fall into the trap of forcing other players to do what you personally would like to do, or what you think they "should" do.
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Then we will ignore your suggestion, because it is not what I would like to do and you may not force me into doing it. :)
 
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