CK2 Dev Diary #104 - Forging a Bloodline

[synergetic]

If you already have a bloodline, can it be improved or combined with other bloodlines? E.g. if I complete the ambition to forge a bloodline, am I stuck with that single result for the rest of the playthrough?

 

[kampofelice]

Any News concerning the Updates to the Byzantine Empire ?

 

[Mauer]

Seems a bit easy to get those forged bloodlines, but if you can only get one normally I guess it's okay.

 

[Silfae]

If you already have a bloodline, can it be improved or combined with other bloodlines? E.g. if I complete the ambition to forge a bloodline, am I stuck with that single result for the rest of the playthrough?

Merging bloodlines is not something supported (they can be stacked though); if you forge a bloodline, you cannot forge another bloodline during that playthrough unless you lose it in inheritance (in which case your next ruler can try to forge another one), but owning a forged bloodline still doesn't stop you to gain more (either historical or forged by the AI) by marrying into them.

 

[Maal]

Seduction comes to mind, seduce a ruler as a female and hope they don't legitimise any bastard your character gives them. Then you can legitimise them for your own dynasty.

That seem to be a way. Assuming that the "seducer" isn't counted as the "dominant" partner... how does that even work in the end since there is no marriage? It is getting confusing!

Also it would force people to play as female rulers, which will cause its own issues, which is fine.

 

[Enriador]

Will there be a bloodline for Prophet Muhammad?

 

[Scotch93]

The AI can pursue this ambition, but it has been taught not to do it if it belongs to a player-controlled dynasty, to avoid spoiling the player's fun.

But if, let's say, your brother would create a bloodline, that bloodline would pass down to his children, so would never effect you, right?

This mechanism may also be used to finally give people the cadet branches they so desire. If some far away landed cousin would start a bloodline, let him also start his own cadet branche.

 

[sejemaset]

Will there be a bloodline for Prophet Muhammad?

In a way there already is.

 

[Basileus Basil]

Could we please have a look at the bloodline created by the reformer of a religion or the one for the reformer of rome? will they be different based upon the different natures, doctrines and rulership or they will be a generic "reformer of x religion"?

 

[Patriarch of Bub]

When saying that persuing multiple goals for a bloodline gives you a hybrid bloodline, does that mean:

Building 10 castles gives you X
Building 10 cities gives you Y
Building 10 temples gives you Z

The hybrid will result in:
1. X+Y+Z
Or
2. A bit of X + a bit of Y + a bit of Z

I hope it makes sense.
Is it better to straight focus on a single goal or much more profitable to achieve as many as you can?

Thanks in advance.

 

[repent]

Can I please see the De Hauteville bloodline?

 

[Sam_Stone]

Greetings.

Before we jump into the dev diary proper we have an exciting announcement. Pagan Fury the official band of Crusader Kings have released their first single that can be found below! Have a listen, let us know what you think and make sure to follow the band on spotify to find out what is coming next.

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We have already covered the topic of Bloodlines, and more specifically historical Bloodlines, in a past Dev Diary, yet marrying into a famous family is not the only way to gain a Bloodline in Holy Fury.

There are quite a few custom Bloodlines that you can found with your own ruler by several different means. Some can be gained through special actions, such as by building a Legend as a Warrior Lodge Hero, others can be unlocked by performing impressive feats, such as being an extraordinarily dedicated Viking raider or restoring Israel.

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Finally, if your ruler has very high Prestige (5000 points or higher) and is Duke-tier or above, you will have access to the new Forge Bloodline ambition.

By picking this ambition you will be provided with several paths to create your own custom Bloodline, tailoring it to whichever kind of ruler you wish to be remembered as.

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Each path will lead you to unlock a different bloodline, each coming in different variants (for example pursuing the Murder path will lead you to gain one of four different Murder-related Bloodlines). Additionally, if you pursue more than a single path at the same time, you have a chance of unlocking a hybridized Bloodline, with its own unique perks.

And finally, if you take too long to complete any of the initial paths, having the ambition will trigger a special event chain that will allow you to invest resources and select from yet another pool of potential bloodlines, whose pick will be determined by the choices that you make during the event chain itself.

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Some of these Bloodlines grant a static bonus, decreasing the chance of vassals joining factions against you, increasing your plot power, or unlocking special buildings for your realms, others grant more dynamic perks, such as special events to facilitate murder or decisions to meddle in your relatives’ private affairs.

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This is it for now, though there's still going to be some news coming today. Do not forget to tune in for our very special stream at 17:00 CEST (https://www.twitch.tv/paradoxinteractive).

All this looks good, release date announcement when? :^)

 

[CalmPavement]

will the ai be able to forge a dynasty too?

 

[Silfae]

Could we please have a look at the bloodline created by the reformer of a religion or the one for the reformer of rome? will they be different based upon the different natures, doctrines and rulership or they will be a generic "reformer of x religion"?

There are no bloodlines for reforming a pagan faith; it was considered, but discarded. Reformation gives already a considerable amount of perks and, as you say, unless one where to give just a bland generic bloodline for it, one would need to invest an absurd amount of time to create variants to apply on the various possible combinations of Natures/Doctrines/Leadership.

When saying that persuing multiple goals for a bloodline gives you a hybrid bloodline, does that mean:

Building 10 castles gives you X
Building 10 cities gives you Y
Building 10 temples gives you Z

The hybrid will result in:
1. X+Y+Z
Or
2. A bit of X + a bit of Y + a bit of Z

I hope it makes sense.
Is it better to straight focus on a single goal or much more profitable to achieve as many as you can?

Thanks in advance.

Hybrid Bloodlines have their own special effects, they are not better or worse than the pure versions.

 

[Mackus]

I think I speak for everyone, when I ask: can we found a bloodline that enables divine marriage or/and polygamy?

 

[neutrondecay]

will the ai be able to forge a dynasty too?

Try reading the answers the devs have already given:

The AI can pursue this ambition, but it has been taught not to do it if it belongs to a player-controlled dynasty, to avoid spoiling the player's fun.

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[crowdemon]

Can we create our own bloodline through dynasty designer?

 

[Silfae]

Can we create our own bloodline through dynasty designer?

No, they can only be earned in game.

 

[Basileus Basil]

How will legendary bloodlines work in random worlds?

 

[Keizer Harm]

How often does the AI manage to create their own bloodlines? Such as that @Snow Crystal said, that there would be roughly 20 saints per playthrough - is the number of AI-built bloodlines roughly the same?