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We haven't had as single real outing yet, and the village actually finds baddies through the voting cycle. This is just as it should be.
And I seriously doubt the wolves will keep doing us favors with their hunt choices.
This game is far from over.

Indeed, except for the wretched plague that seems to have filled the village with zombies.
 
We haven't had as single real outing yet, and the village actually finds baddies through the voting cycle. This is just as it should be.
And I seriously doubt the wolves will keep doing us favors with their hunt choices.
This game is far from over.

Not saying otherwise! In fact I'm pretty sure either agreeing OR disagreeing with this would be breaking ghost rules as I can't comment on why the wolves are dying in big numbers. I just think it's funny that they are.
 
Indeed, except for the wretched plague that seems to have filled the village with zombies.
Not sure we really have more zombies than we usually have.
 
Not sure we really have more zombies than we usually have.

*coughs hoarsely*

In my days... in my days it was too much when we had one zombie. Then it came a time where WW was considered to be dying, and we sometimes had two zombies! Naturally this was unacceptable and we rallied the hosts in the Almighty CAWZ and met the plague of zombies with fire and steel.

Now, you want to tell me that we should be happy about the present state of affairs? Must we call forth a mighty Coalition Against Werewolf Degeneracy as well?
 
Still interested in Caillean and Wagonlitz from the prior two days. Quick vote analysis didn't really stick out to me with anything that obvious.

One observation I have from the voting (I apologize if someone has noticed this already):

Day 3 -

I seriously doubt that Capibara, Sleepyhead, or possibly Wagonlitz are Team Nay as they were the votes that pushed Avernite into the lead just prior to the 'outing'. Could of course be Team Aye, but we have little on them right now besides Yvanoff.
 
I also noticed two in particular who didn't vote for the main candidates at all:

TheFatWombat voted for Wagonlitz both on Day 3 and on Day 4.
reis91 voted for johho888 both on Day 3 prior to the outing and on Day 4

It's very minimal to go on, but this is either lazy voting, trying to build an alibi, or trying to avoid voting for a packmate.

VOTE TheFatWombat
 
Well, I guess CAWZ voting works. Don't know why, but let's see if it keeps working.

Vote Dr. Livingstone

Another person who missed a bunch.
 
Vote johho888

Day 2 he voted the_hdk right as Jerman was facing some pressure.

Day 3 he was on the only non-red candidate in the top three before the outing.

Day 4 he voted Castor again right as BF was being voted up.
 
Under the weather and spending most of my time sleeping, so I don't have a completely BS reason for relative inactivity.

Well, I guess CAWZ voting works. Don't know why, but let's see if it keeps working.
I'm always surprised when wolves are acting like zombies. It's fun when you get yo be a baddie and it should inspire activity. If you're a boring villager you might not invest as much time (although it allows you to maybe take more risks).


I seriously doubt that Capibara, Sleepyhead, or possibly Wagonlitz are Team Nay as they were the votes that pushed Avernite into the lead just prior to the 'outing'. Could of course be Team Aye, but we have little on them right now besides Yvanoff.
Nice. I could buy this.

Edit: I'll also add that, based on yesterday, K59 is an unlikely Nay.
 
*coughs hoarsely*

In my days... in my days it was too much when we had one zombie. Then it came a time where WW was considered to be dying, and we sometimes had two zombies! Naturally this was unacceptable and we rallied the hosts in the Almighty CAWZ and met the plague of zombies with fire and steel.

Now, you want to tell me that we should be happy about the present state of affairs? Must we call forth a mighty Coalition Against Werewolf Degeneracy as well?
And then Reis proceeded to walk uphill both ways to work. In the snow.
 
We haven't had as single real outing yet, and the village actually finds baddies through the voting cycle. This is just as it should be.
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Votecount, 5 hours and 48 minutes to deadline

Health: 1
sleepyhead (673)

TheFatWombat: 1
humancalculator (687)

Dr.Livingstone: 1
randakar (688)

johoh888: 1
k-59 (689)


not-voted: aedan777v2.0, alxeu, Alynkio, Beartjah, Brovahkiin, Caillean, Capibara, Castor94, Claude LC, Cliges, Dedonus, Dr.Livingstone+, Eternaly_Lost+, EUROO7+, Health, jeray2000, johho888, LatinKaiser, Lemeard, Reis91, Sand3r205, Spockyt, THE_SPLIT, TheFatWombat, Wagonlitz

* missed one vote earlier
+ missed the previous vote
 
I also noticed two in particular who didn't vote for the main candidates at all:

TheFatWombat voted for Wagonlitz both on Day 3 and on Day 4.
reis91 voted for johho888 both on Day 3 prior to the outing and on Day 4

It's very minimal to go on, but this is either lazy voting, trying to build an alibi, or trying to avoid voting for a packmate.

VOTE TheFatWombat

I had no reason to vote either of the candidates and I explained why I wanted to prosecute Johho, something which was still possible at the time. The reasons are those k-59 mentions, his voting record has consistently supported wolves.

Now, today, I would actually want to start looking at the Aye pack. From Yvanoff's votes, I cannot gleam much, it's usually a problem when analyzing new players. But I would like to consider the possibility that Castor was an Aye wolf. Mere hypothesis, without anything tangible behind it- but, if we consider this premise, then it makes Day 4 a very interesting day.

Now, why do I bother with this, with nothing to support this? Well, for a start, Castor showed up very late into the day to vote - someone may have tagged him in wolf conversation - or he might have banked on Blackcrown being absent to have his appearance suddenly make someone break the tie and get the zombie lynched instead of him - which allows all manner of alibi votes to be cast with no real danger. Given that Yvanoff voted BC, I'd expect that at least one wolf (but maybe more) would vote on the other side - probably more towards the end (because alibi-votes are more effective there) - this would mean Sleepyhead, Spockyt and Sand3r - and I'd say this would be a good place to start looking to test this hypothesis.

vote Spockyt
 
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Time to reread the previous day. Will vote in a couple of hours.
 
Here is a list for everyone who voted for Black_Griffin:

Randakar (548)
THE_SPLIT (561)
Health (582)
beartjah (601)
Yvanoff (623)
Claude LC (624)
cliges (629)
k-59 (616 Sleepy -> 631)
Castor94 (640)

I would guess that there is one more "Yay" wolf in this list that voted with Yvanoff. Here are some comments on each player's voting history.

Randakar: voted with Yvanoff against Health on Day 2 (although I would find it hard to believe that two wolves did something this obvious), voted TheFatWombat on Day 3 (was voted by Eternity_Lost - these two don't give us much information as of yet), was the first to vote for Black_Griffin on Day 4. No real good evidence here (unless you think that Yvanoff would vote with Randy on a player who wasn't a lynching candidate).

THE_SPLIT: voted Reis91 on Day 2, Jeray200 on Day 3 (didn't switch to Avernite), 2nd to vote B_G on Day 4. Hasn't been voted up yet. No good evidence here because we don't have anything on the players he voted for beside B_G.

Health: voted BlackCrown voted by Alynkio, randy, and Yvanoff on Day 2 (along with k-59 and cliges, who area also on this list), voted Aedan 2.0 on Day 3 (the EURO, johho, alynkio trio that Reis91 mentioned yesterday also voted for Aedan 2.0), voted B_G on Day 4 (was voted by johho and spockyt). The Yvanoff vote on Health on Day 2 could be an alibi vote, but we cannot be sure.

beartjah: hdk and beartjah voted for each other on Day 2, voted JermanTK on Day 3 before the switch. Voted B_G on Day 4. Hasn't been voted since Day 2. He has been lynching the nay wolves almost too well.

Claude LC: voted Brovahkiin on Day 2, no vote on Day 3, B_G on Day 4. On Day 4, he was voted by a few people because of his no vote status on Day 3. Seems a little fishy (his no vote status, not people voting for him).

cliges: voted BlackCrown on Day 2, JermanTK on Day 3 before the switch. Voted B_G on Day 4. Like bearjah, appears to have a too good to be true record. I also didn't see any votes on him, although I could have missed them.

k-59: voted Jerman than BlackCorwn on Day 2 (was voted by Lemeard), stayed on Wagonlitz on Day 3 despite the (fake-ish) outing, switched from Sleepy to B_G on Day 4.

Castor94: voted Brovahkiin on Day 2, JermanTK on Day 3, and sniped B_G to save himself. Like beartjah and cliges, his voting record is filled with red. Also, the vote snipe would have looked fishy had JermanTK not turned out to be a wolf.

I'm going to have to contemplate on these choices for a little bit before I vote. I am tempted to vote Health because of the Day 2 vote by Yvanoff, but the Euro/johho/alynkio trio on Aedan 2.0 on Day 3 makes things complicated. Although I feel there is a wolf or two among those who voted for Aedan 2.0 on Day 3 because Aedan 2.0 was the only non-nay-pack candidate that day and a prime target to get some pressure off of their pack mates, I'm looking for someone from the yay pack. Although it is not out of the realm of possibility that a yay pack member also voted for Aedan 2.0, it is more likely that if there are wolves there, they are part of the nay pack.
 
Vote Spokyt

so that he will vote me
 
Looking at Yvanoff's voting record what stands out to me is that he was part of the strong Black-Griffin drive yesterday. The ones that benefitted from that was Castor and even more so Claude. It can of course be just a coincidence but I think that is the best lead we have for finding Yay members (unless we want to go for silent players like k-59 or humancalculator and hope silent but reliable means 'have something to hide').

vote ClaudeLC

@k-59: I am well aware I am a perfect match for the bloody Nay sayers but we should really be focusing on the Yay sayers.