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In one of my playthroughs vassals make me to get elective monarchy
and I must end game because them. AI of vassals is crazy, childish and robotic
and I must end game because them. AI of vassals is crazy, childish and robotic
OK - help required: this is the first time I'd loaded the game in about three weeks - ie since the latest patch went in. Even though I didn't deliberately load it and avoided getting the new Holy Fury DLC, it has largely wrecked the game. You will see below that it has imposed the new county boundaries and it seems (half randomly) left a large number of them as 'unassigned'. Including two of those I was building up as part of the core demesne.
Because this is an Ironman game (I mistake I wouldn't have made at the start if I'd known what I was doing), I don't want to un-pause to see what happens. This is irritating in the extreme and I'm heartily pissed off that Paradox would impose such a game-breaking change without choice. Is there some simple enough way to revert to the previous version? Or is this a coup de gras?
To have half the kingdom suddenly disappear (and probably a whole bunch of other changes I haven't delved into yet) even before the expected elective gavelkind succession is pretty random and not very easy to explain in any credible narrative way. Any thoughts or suggestions?
PS: I'm currently googling patch roll back info but would still appreciate any comments. If I fix this (and the save works) I'll post here.
PPS: Did the roll back in Steam to v2.8.3.4 (the only previous one available on the drop down box), tried to reload and it said the load had failed (broken or corrupted). Am guessing that's because it was Ironman and I opened it in the new patch and it has now changed the save to render it incompatible backwards. Had I known there was going to be this problem, I would have rolled back before opening it. Paradox = f&*$#!g $%@^holes!
PPPS: I do have an older save (I kept them just in case of emergency on a spare drive) that I can scum by renaming the file and pasting it into the save folder. But I (foolishly) didn't do one for the last session and this one dates back to 28 March 888 (the game had got up to May 889, so a year and a bit would be lost). But it looks like it is functional under the previous patch roll back.
Question: what do people think?
1. Should I call it quits on the learning experience, end the AAR here and just get the new DLC and do something else?
2. Or should I keep plugging away under the old patch version, play the next year and a bit to mirror recent events as closely as possible, tweak the story as necessary, and keep going?
3. Or, as a bit of a compromise, just play things through to Rurik's death and succession (whenever that might be), because that was going to be a big milestone and learning point, then write that up as an epilogue chapter?
Each option has its drawbacks and attractions. Thoughts?
Is there some simple enough way to revert to the previous version? Or is this a coup de gras?To have half the kingdom suddenly disappear (and probably a whole bunch of other changes I haven't delved into yet) even before the expected elective gavelkind succession is pretty random and not very easy to explain in any credible narrative way. Any thoughts or suggestions?
PS: I'm currently googling patch roll back info but would still appreciate any comments. If I fix this (and the save works) I'll post here.
PPS: Did the roll back in Steam to v2.8.3.4 (the only previous one available on the drop down box), tried to reload and it said the load had failed (broken or corrupted).
Am guessing that's because it was Ironman and I opened it in the new patch and it has now changed the save to render it incompatible backwards. Had I known there was going to be this problem, I would have rolled back before opening it. Paradox = f&*$#!g $%@^holes! PPPS: I do have an older save (I kept them just in case of emergency on a spare drive) that I can scum by renaming the file and pasting it into the save folder. But I (foolishly) didn't do one for the last session and this one dates back to 28 March 888 (the game had got up to May 889, so a year and a bit would be lost). But it looks like it is functional under the previous patch roll back.
Question: what do people think?
1. Should I call it quits on the learning experience, end the AAR here and just get the new DLC and do something else?
2. Or should I keep plugging away under the old patch version, play the next year and a bit to mirror recent events as closely as possible, tweak the story as necessary, and keep going?
3. Or, as a bit of a compromise, just play things through to Rurik's death and succession (whenever that might be), because that was going to be a big milestone and learning point, then write that up as an epilogue chapter?
Each option has its drawbacks and attractions. Thoughts?
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NOOOOOO!!!!! Get the new DLC anyway (I think reforming pagan faiths with the new DLC can be fun) but it's supposed to be backwards compatible, right? Regardless of you getting the new DLC, the game SHOULD work and if you end the AAR it should be on YOUR terms, not some idiotic bug. This is like bending the knee to the incompetency of a Paradox engineer. Rurik would have never done that. Option 3 as well.
It is not a 100% thing that the save file is corrupt already, I'd say take a backup of the current one as well, uninstall the entire thing, do a fresh install to the old version, load and pray. In fact, even a fresh install to the latest version might solve the issue.
In addition, raise a ticket to Paradox support. Even if the save file is somehow corrupt, maybe they're keeping some backups somewhere.
Even if the latest savefile is unsalvageable, return to the safe save file under a fresh install, write a paragraph about the past year being a very lucid dream of Rurik and him being obsessively trying to recreate the events from his dream, succeeding some and failing others in which some of the failed ones are better outcomes and some worse.
I hope the best for this AAR, I've been immensely enjoying this.
I suggest remove save file and reinstall to pre-patch version. The latest patch, from what I understand, messed up pre-patch games.
Avoid launching CK2, and double-check there aren't backup saves. If there aren't, I say go for option one or three, depending on your level of frustration.
Yeah i got the same issue with Albion to be honest.
...not sure what to say. Basically, the save file backup should work but the game seems busted in terms of older games right now. So...i think you should probably end it with rurik dying or sooner.
Not only because the game is shafted but because whilst there is more to learn pagan wise, theres several other ways of governance and cultures and basically ways of playing the game. You can always shift over to another or use the random dice to give you a completly new start.
...not sure what to say. Basically, the save file backup should work but the game seems busted in terms of older games right now. So...i think you should probably end it with rurik dying or sooner.
Not only because the game is shafted but because whilst there is more to learn pagan wise, theres several other ways of governance and cultures and basically ways of playing the game. You can always shift over to another or use the random dice to give you a completly new start.
So, the old save (which I've reinstituted and can use again if anything goes wrong) loaded up OK in the rolled-back version. I might play it through for a bit to see how it goes. Is there some way of stopping automatic patches, in case something like this happens again?
PS: at least my HOI3 and EU Rome games are OK and safe from unplanned updates!
PS: at least my HOI3 and EU Rome games are OK and safe from unplanned updates!
Once you've rolled the game back, you can copy all of the files into a completely new directory which will be "invisible" to Steam. These instructions presume you're using a Windows OS; I don't know enough about Macs or any of the more exotic options to advise on those.
These instructions are from a while back, but I believe they should still apply. You've technically already done Step 2, so you can skip that one.
Let me know if this helps, or if there are any issues!
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Very comprehensive, though knowing me I might stuff some small but important aspect up!
Otherwise, I might now just do the copy of the Ironman save at the end of every session as a fallback and just play on the rolled back version. If the same thing happens again, I’ll do something more ‘stringent’ as you’ve kindy highlighted here.
This is, alas, the reality of current PDS games. Not the first person to be burned. The real problem is map changes for CK2, and in Holy Fury map changes were extensive. That said, in due course I recommend the DLC.
I have gotten into the habit, if I am doing a campaign on a game that is about to have a major update to either (a) turning off steam updates before the patch hits, then enter the rollback as soon as, or more often (b) copy the current version of the game directory to a new location and keep playing with that whilst the steam location updates to the new version.
Hope you are able to work it out.
I have gotten into the habit, if I am doing a campaign on a game that is about to have a major update to either (a) turning off steam updates before the patch hits, then enter the rollback as soon as, or more often (b) copy the current version of the game directory to a new location and keep playing with that whilst the steam location updates to the new version.
Hope you are able to work it out.
You should never play these games from the original Steam directory but from a copy so that NO updates happen.
I numpty enough at such things to not fully understand that!
I’d need someone to walk me through how to do that and would probably still mess it up. 
I just finished reading your AAR from the start and enjoyed it very much. Learned quite a bit too, since i haven‘t played for a long time.
I hope this mess can be cleared up, but either way thx for a good time with Rurik
I hope this mess can be cleared up, but either way thx for a good time with Rurik
Breaking save-games is common due to DLCs and patches which were not save-compatible, also Steam updating game version. Is frustrating to have game session ended due to silly tehnical problems
. Is frustrating to have game session ended due to silly tehnical problems
Thank you very much, and for making your first comment on my AAR! I’m pretty sure I can fix the problem and keep going, it will just take few days to bring things up to date as closely as I can.
With help from commenters and some private assistance (thanks to all who have helped) I think it should be fine. If it works, I’ll keep going as originally planned.Breaking save-games is common due to DLCs and patches which were not save-compatible, also Steam updating game version
and does that mean the newest DLC is not backwards compatible in terms of save games?
