Provide the option to deport homeless citizens to Earth

[Timjames]

Currently in the game the only way to control the growth of your colony's population is by banning births in some of your domes. I do this because my population grows faster than I can build domes, but I'm not comfortable with it because I feel like I'm violating the human rights of my people by preventing some of them from starting families.

I wish there was a more humane alternative for handling population growth. One idea I had is that there'd be an option for your spaceships to load up unemployed or homeless citizens so you can ship them back to Earth or to colonies elsewhere in the solar system (such as Luna, the moons of Jupiter, the moons of Saturn, the Asteroid belt, and the Oort cloud). I imagine the people would be citizens of whichever country sponsored the colony (or in the case of corporate colonies, whichever country the sponsor corporation is based in).

It could be a milestone ("send 1000 martianborn citizens back to Earth"), and it could even have a related mystery (some disaster ends life on Earth, and you need to send citizens and supplies back in order to repopulate).

 

[VATROU]

There are mods like Incubator that limit growth to open Nursery slots. Me I just manage which domes I want births in.

 

[Timjames]

There are mods like Incubator that limit growth to open Nursery slots. Me I just manage which domes I want births in.

I know I can set some domes to No Births, I'm asking for an alternative option because I don't like it. Did you even read my post?

 

[mammothhunter]

There is more to it, past certain and not very high comfort sol 50-70 your population exploxes. Passenger rockets are not needed, tourism is impossible because you always have more pops than jobs and housing, and technologies increasing birth rate like clone vats and holographic scanner are utterly useless. If these technologies are there its not supposed to be that way, its game balance screwed.

 

[Timjames]

There is more to it, past certain and not very high comfort sol 50-70 your population exploxes. Passenger rockets are not needed, tourism is impossible because you always have more pops than jobs and housing, and technologies increasing birth rate like clone vats and holographic scanner are utterly useless. If these technologies are there its not supposed to be that way, its game balance screwed.

An option to deport excess colonists to Earth, or to other space colonies, would solve these problems.

 

[mammothhunter]

I get it what you want but it would make any population tech look even more silly than it is now. I'd rather expect dev to try to adress it in a more elegant way.

 

[sortulv]

Martianborn humans would have serious health issues on Earth - simply due to the gravity difference. In addition, Earth kinda has enough people today - there isn't really room for the people already here (see refugee crisis). So, while not importing any further people to Mars makes sense, sending anyone born on Mars to Earth does not.

 

[Timjames]

I get it what you want but it would make any population tech look even more silly than it is now. I'd rather expect dev to try to adress it in a more elegant way.

How would it make it "look silly"? Sending the excess population elsewhere is a tried-and-true method for dealing with over population, and it makes sense that in the age of renewed space colonization people would want to leave to found new colonies.

Martianborn humans would have serious health issues on Earth - simply due to the gravity difference. In addition, Earth kinda has enough people today - there isn't really room for the people already here (see refugee crisis). So, while not importing any further people to Mars makes sense, sending anyone born on Mars to Earth does not.

On your first point, Martianborn immigrants to Earth could adjust to the new gravity with exercise regimens and gene-editing, the latter being a technology available for research in the game.

Your second point is just flat-out wrong. Earth is still well below it's carrying capacity. Famine and refugees are due more to war and environmental mismanagement than to over-population, and poverty in developing nations is due to income inequality and poor distribution. Malthus was wrong, there's nothing else too it.

 

[sortulv]

On your first point, Martianborn immigrants to Earth could adjust to the new gravity with exercise regimens and gene-editing, the latter being a technology available for research in the game.

Your second point is just flat-out wrong. Earth is still well below it's carrying capacity. Famine and refugees are due more to war and environmental mismanagement than to over-population, and poverty in developing nations is due to income inequality and poor distribution. Malthus was wrong, there's nothing else too it.

Mars is also below any carrying capacity, you still want to export the people to earth at great expense (the gravity adjustments would be fairly expensive, no? )
Wouldn't it be far more sensible to export them to other places on Mars? Where they actually are adapted to?

 

[mammothhunter]

How would it make it "look silly"? Sending the excess population elsewhere is a tried-and-true method for dealing with over population, and it makes sense that in the age of renewed space colonization people would want to leave to found new colonies.

Exactly you would be researching tech for population growth to send all the excess people you get from it away.