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People please don't argue each other here. Respect each other's opinions.

My choice is Neville Chamberlain. Clearly no one made nearly as much effort to avoid the war as he did. I think it absolutely wasn't up to him that he failed.
 
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The annual New Year's Day speech - the Finnish president, Kyösti Kallio speaks over the radio for the Finnish people in 1940.

Graduated only the elementary school and known as an abstainer Kallio upset his hosts during a visit in the Hungarian parliament and ordering milk for a food beverage on a gala dinner. Kallio led Finland through the difficult times, authorizing the Finnish Council to accept Moscow Peace Terms in 1940 he said: -Let my hand, which must sign such a paper, dry up!

Kallio took the Winter War very hard. His health was wavering seriously due to the war effort. He resigned the presidency after the Winter War completely exhausted. When leaving Helsinki Railway Station for his home, Nivala Kallio had a sudden heart attack dying on Mannerheim's arms.
 
Stalin of course. He achieved the most.
 
Kovax said:
Yes, judging by body count....
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In fairness, Stalin took the USSR from the crumbling fragmented wreck of imperial Russia and turned it into the world's second super power. Not bad for a street urchin with a gammy arm!
 
I have three:

1. Churchill: He was drunk most of the time, he failed at Gallipolli, you can say whatever you want about one of the best characters of Dr Who, but he was the right man for, i think, the darkest and final period of my favorite empire.

2. Philippe Pétain, one of the major heroes of the Great War....then, as an old man, he saw his country overran, his army destroyed, his people defeated, and made a difficult choice. I understand why.... but i want to ask anyways, why? He is the quintessential tragic hero. I also like De Gaulle, but i cannot have two french guys on my top 3.

3. Stalin. He was a villain defeating another villain, but his struggle against fascism its one of the biggest epics of universal history, hes not my #1 just because he betrayed the project of Lenin and was, well, crazy.
 
Charles de Gaulle
 
Jack Reed, for successfully leading the revolution and then winning the American civil war.

Oh wait, wrong timeline.

Eh, no one really. Maybe Gandhi, if we consider him a statesman.
 
Gandhi, Clement Attlee and Léon Blum.

- Gandhi for his nonviolent resistance securing India's independence
- Clement Attlee for establishing the British post-war consensus of a welfare state with the nationalisations
- Léon Blum for his resistance against Vichy during the occupation and his trial
 
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Kazanov said:
2. Philippe Pétain, one of the major heroes of the Great War....then, as an old man, he saw his country overran, his army destroyed, his people defeated, and made a difficult choice. I understand why.... but i want to ask anyways, why? He is the quintessential tragic hero. I also like De Gaulle, but i cannot have two french guys on my top 3.
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Pétain was barely a hero during WW1, and betrayed his country as well as being an antisemite racist. He capitulated despite the country still having the possibility of resisting. It was he who overran his country, destroyed its army and defeated his people by capitulating and betraying France to its enemy.
 
I can agree with Gandhi. Absolutely.

Churchill. Well, for the WW2 indeed, but his earlier antics

Blum or Attllee? Well, there were plenty as good, or even better, statesmen all over the world.

I don't even want to discuss about Petain.

Stalin still wins though.
 
Adolf Hitler of course. Without him we propably wouldnt have all those awesome ww2 games in the first place.
Imagine a world without Panzer General or Hearts of Iron.
 
Graf Zeppelin said:
Adolf Hitler of course. Without him we propably wouldnt have all those awesome ww2 games in the first place.
Imagine a world without Panzer General or Hearts of Iron.
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I know you are mostly being flippant, but that is a little insensitive. I am sure the vast majority of people involved in ww2 would prefer to have neither ww2 nor the games.
 
Easy-Kill said:
I know you are mostly being flippant, but that is a little insensitive. I am sure the vast majority of people involved in ww2 would prefer to have neither ww2 nor the games.
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Sorry for being political incorrect. :p Not to mention I doubt many people involved into ww2 played ww2 games at all.
 
Graf Zeppelin said:
Adolf Hitler of course. Without him we propably wouldnt have all those awesome ww2 games in the first place.
Imagine a world without Panzer General or Hearts of Iron.
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Oh, we would just focus on Victoria and To End All Wars. Also, Kaiser General would be genre's basic game instead of PG :)
 
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