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In a work of fiction I recently read (the last Kate Daniels novel) the author mentioned the supposedly factual disapperance of 600 people from the village of Hoer Verde in Brazil 1923. Apparently everyone vanished and the only clue at the scene was a gun and ”There is no salvation" written on a school blackboard.

In trying to look it up on the internet I only found questionable sources repeating this same account:
http://www.unexplainable.net/info-theories/the-village-that-vanished.php

https://coolinterestingstuff.com/hoer-verde-the-town-with-600-inhabitants-that-vanished

There isn’t even a wikipedia article to take references from.

Is this a complete myth only repeated on fringe internet sites or is there some truth to it?
 
It has all the classic symptoms of an urban myth - undocumented witnesses, mysterious statements, single left object and a story repeated with no references. Villages do get abandoned all the time, particularly during times of ongoing civil strife, but not the 'mysterious abandonment' thing. There are a number of sites where people have posted asking for any evidence, but no one could find any actual evidence other than repeats of the same story, sometimes with embellishments.
 
I am from Brazil and I’ve never heard about it. The first time I saw it being mentioned was on the game Control. Verde means green in Portuguese, while Hoer doesn’t mean anything that I’m aware off. This there is no salvation probably alludes to the Latin proverb that there is no salvation outside the church. The texts you reference doesn’t even give a hint of the State where this Hoer Verde should be located. In the 1920s Brazil was already a republic for quite some time and there were no major revolts (I can only remember one in the south and a small one in Rio). So I find it quite hard to believe that it has any element of truth.
 
Velho e Bom Joe said:
No, never heard of it.
As Rvanzo said, Hoer doesn't mean anything in Portuguese, so it's a pretty weird name for a village supposedly in Brazil.
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To be fair, there are plenty of place names in Brazil that have little to do with Portuguese, e.g. Joinville.
 
Andrelvis said:
To be fair, there are plenty of place names in Brazil that have little to do with Portuguese, e.g. Joinville.
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Ah yes, I forgot to mention that I did take a look at "hoer" in wiktionary, and it would require some germanic speaking immigrants (danish, dutch, english) . Also, seeing that it would mean "Green who.. Hm, prostitute" on those languages (except English) , that makes it even more dubious.:D
 
rvanzo said:
I am from Brazil and I’ve never heard about it. The first time I saw it being mentioned was on the game Control. Verde means green in Portuguese, while Hoer doesn’t mean anything that I’m aware off. This there is no salvation probably alludes to the Latin proverb that there is no salvation outside the church. The texts you reference doesn’t even give a hint of the State where this Hoer Verde should be located. In the 1920s Brazil was already a republic for quite some time and there were no major revolts (I can only remember one in the south and a small one in Rio). So I find it quite hard to believe that it has any element of truth.
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Same here, I had never heard of this story either, nor of Hoer Verde, Hoer is not even a Portuguese language word, it sounds like a Dutch word.
 
Andrelvis said:
To be fair, there are plenty of place names in Brazil that have little to do with Portuguese, e.g. Joinville.
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Places that received heavy non-Portuguese immigration though, which is not the case of Central Brazil (where Hoer Verde was supposedly located). Back in the 1920s a place like this would be in the middle of nowhere.

Here (http://mundotentacular.blogspot.com/2016/11/o-enigma-de-hoer-verde-cidade-que.html) there are some interesting comments about this story, like that Hoer is a translation made by some Russian source and not the actual name. Maybe it could be 'Ouro Verde', but the story is still 99.99999999999% likely to be false.
 
Apparently the story may have originated here (or being propagated from): https://www.barnesandnoble.com/readouts/magic-triumphs/

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Velho e Bom Joe said:
Ah yes, I forgot to mention that I did take a look at "hoer" in wiktionary, and it would require some germanic speaking immigrants (danish, dutch, english) . Also, seeing that it would mean "Green who.. Hm, prostitute" on those languages (except English) , that makes it even more dubious.:D
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Us Dutchies did take over parts of Brazil at one time but not this area and I'm pretty sure we wouldn't have named a place after this particular profession, at least not this openly.
 
Barsoom said:
Us Dutchies did take over parts of Brazil at one time but not this area and I'm pretty sure we wouldn't have named a place after this particular profession, at least not this openly.
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You're Dutch? For some reason I thought you were American...
 
So Hoer Verde was a settlement of Dutch prostitutes in Brazil. After the government wiped them out they covered the whole thing up and erased records of the place ever existing!

Or maybe it is all an urban legend.:D

I was surprised to see this thread revived after a year.
 
Geriander said:
As I mentioned in the first post, that is where I heard of it. As the other mentioned disapperances were real I wanted to find out if this one was as well. Apparently not.
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In any case this is unlikely to be real as all mentions are on random mostly foreign sites about paranormal stuff.
 
Geriander said:
As I mentioned in the first post, that is where I heard of it. As the other mentioned disapperances were real I wanted to find out if this one was as well. Apparently not.
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You could try writing to the author and asking, since no other sources have appeared.
 
Andrelvis said:
You could try writing to the author and asking, since no other sources have appeared.
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Older sources have been found (and quoted in the OP). They seem to be bogus though so it appears that the author bought into an existing urban legend on the internet and repeated it as fact.
 
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