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Jedrek

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Blood of the Dragonslayer
Hello people!

It’s been quite a while since I tried writing an AAR (my last attempts were all the way back in CK2… When it had like 3 DLCs out. So yeah, ages ago. I guess it’s high time to give it a try again!

So, as an introductory note:​
  • I’ll be playing the tribe of Vistulans in 769 bookmark. Not entirely decided on format, but I feel most confident with history book style, with possible narrative fragments if I find the events really inspiring.​
  • As you can see by the Bookmarks+ start date, there are gonna be mods involved… lots of them, actually. Some QoL, lots of stuff like VIET and RICE. I can post a full list if anyone's interested.​
  • There’s not going to be any specific objective for the game; first, I suck at giving myself goals and second, CK3 has this nice thing where RNG throws all your plans into a shredder because your ruler decided to peek out from behind his shield during battle.. The only two rules I want to impose on myself are:
    • Not forming Poland (though if Poland gets formed by AI, I’d consider claiming/usurping the throne a fair game)​
    • Not reforming the Slavic faith, nor picking any “big” one (Catholic/Iconoclast*/Sunni) to adopt.​
  • I’ll be aiming for a weekly update (each weekend). Possibly more if I manage to write up enough chapters in advance.​
Without further ado – let’s start and I really hope you’ll enjoy it!

* – the 769 bookmark is in the middle of Iconoclast period within the Byzantine empire – it’s the “regular” orthodoxy that is pretty much on its way out.​


Rulers of Wiślica:

Siemowit
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760?-789 (as kniaź)
789-794 (as wielki kniaź)


Marsyn
794-???
 
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I: At the banks of Vistula


Lech and the eagle, plate by Walery Eljasz-Radzikowski (source: Wikimedia Commons)
A popular legend tells of three great brothers; Lech, Czech and Rus. Born somewhere in the steppe, they ventured west with their retunies, entering the dense forests between Vistula and Oder. Soon, their paths parted – Czech moved south, across the mountains, while Rus turned back to his home lands. Lech, however, persevered – until he encountered a magnificent sight; a white eagle sitting in its nest, against a blood-red backdrop of a setting sun. Inspired, the legendary hero decided to settle nearby, naming the place “Gniezdno” – which in ancient Slavic language meant “nest”.

In the coming centuries, Lech’s scions spread far and wide, settling in marshes along the Elbe, reaching the Baltic coast in the north, and claiming their domain at the foot of the Carpathians. They split into countless tribes – unified by their ancestral legend and language, but divided by petty struggles and strife.

One of those tribes found their place in the south, along the banks of the Vistula river and its tributaries. They settled among lush, rolling fields, quickly building up a network of grody – walled towns, often located in strategic positions. Several of them – such as Kraków, Wiślica, Sandomierz or Tarnów – quickly grew in prominence, becoming not just centres of population, but also nexus of craft, commerce and administration.

As another legend goes, their first książę was Krak the Dragonslayer. Little is known of his past; at some point, however, his gród has been attacked by a vicious dragon that made its lair in limestone caves underneath Kraków. Many attempts to vanquish the monster have been made, taking the lives of countless warriors. Be it might or cunning, the beast always managed to foil the attempt on its life. It wasn’t until Krak himself descended into the caves, presenting the beast with a gift; a beautiful, shapely sheep, bred and fed specifically to placate the monster. The dragon gobbled the sacrifice with glee – only to feel an infernal flame burn it from inside. Instead of an actual sheep, Krak brought a sack of sulphur, covered in fleece and soaked with fat to hide the smell. The dragon rushed outside of its cave to quench the flames – but not even Vistula itself contained enough water; it died in pain, its guts burst to bits like a bloated, tattered sack.

Though, obviously, the claim of slaying an actual dragon is a tall and doubtful one by modern standards, it was apparently more than enough for Krak to use as a base for his rise to power. At some point of early Mediaeval period he managed to, by one way or another, subjugate all the Vistulan tribes, incorporating some territories previously claimed by other tribes – Silesians, Lendians or Mazovians.

Little to nothing is known about this earliest period of Vistulan history – facts are enshrouded in legends, and while some names and deeds are confirmed in other sources, many claims sound downright fantastic – like the tale of an ex-Roman legionary Martin settling in Kraków with his fellow companions, or of a tribe of Vistulans departing alongside Genseric’s Vandal horde to ultimately settle in distant Africa. One thing is certain, however; as one of the most powerful Lechitic tribes, the Vistulans were bound for greatness.
Vistulan lands in 769

Vistulan lands in 769
 
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Sounds like fun!
 
Looks interesting...

Will the Vistulans replace the Poles or form an empire of their own? And is that an actual ethnographic myth?
 
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Sounds very interesting already! :)
 
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As a Galician I don't remember the legend to goes like that, but I'm already bought ^^

One question tho: If you are not reforming Slavic faith and not adopting any of the large ones then what does it mean? Does it mean you will adopt one of the major heresies or different religion all together like Zorostrianism/Mazdanism?
 
Thank you all for comments! I was honestly not expecting this much feedback, I'm really honoured! :D

Looks interesting...

Will the Vistulans replace the Poles or form an empire of their own? And is that an actual ethnographic myth?
I took some liberties but yes, both the legend of Lech, Czech and Rus and the dragon of Kraków are actual legends :) And well... I definitely don't plan on replacing the Poles - my first (dropped) attempt was merging with White Croats and adopting orthodoxy, this game went in a kind of... unexpected direction XD

As a Galician I don't remember the legend to goes like that, but I'm already bought ^^

One question tho: If you are not reforming Slavic faith and not adopting any of the large ones then what does it mean? Does it mean you will adopt one of the major heresies or different religion all together like Zorostrianism/Mazdanism?
The plan was to adopt an eastern faith in an attempt to sort of recreate one faith I liked a lot in CK2's Lux Invicta... Let's just say that I'm halfway there ;) I don't really like playing too much in advance, so currently my game is paused at roughly 3rd generation of Krak dynasty and waits until I catch up with today's update. Then... We'll see. I just hope PDX won't drop some gamebreaking patch before I get to at least 1000...
 
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I definitely don't plan on replacing the Poles - my first (dropped) attempt was merging with White Croats and adopting orthodoxy, this game went in a kind of... unexpected direction XD
The plan was to adopt an eastern faith in an attempt to sort of recreate one faith I liked a lot in CK2's Lux Invicta...
Oh I know what you're talking about. I also tried White Croatian campaign, but in CK 2 I conquered Hungary and somehow converted to Hindu xd

P.S.: Do you know there is a new version of Lux Invicta in work rn? ;)
 

II: Siemowit's bloodthirst


The first historically attested ruler of Vistulans is Siemowit, who took over the tribal federation somewhere during the 760s. Compared to Krak, his seat of power moved north-east, relocating to the gród of Wiślica. His domain was smaller than the one claimed to belong to his legendary predecessor – yet still a pretty impressive one, ranging from Stężyca and Lublin in the north, to snowy peaks of Tatry mountains in the south. Rich in timber, honey and wax, this realm enjoyed relative prosperity, away from both zealous christians to the west and bloodthirsty nomads to the east.
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However, Siemowit himself was very much unlike the land he reigned in.

His character is mostly known from foreign sources; Polan, Silesian and Chrobatian* chronicles describe him as a rash and brutal person, quick to anger and hungry for gold. The first mention of him comes from year 769; a raider party under his command sacked and plundered the Silesian gród of Bytom, taking thousand slaves and bringing them to his land as serfs.
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Another mention comes from 773, when Siemowit’s warband crossed the low Beskid mountains in the south-east and entered the lands inhabited by White Croats. Their ruler, Tvdroslav, attempted to meet Siemowit in a pitched battle, with disastrous results; his forces were beaten completely, with the prince himself ending up in Vistulan custody. In a twisted display of cruelty, Siemowit mutilated and humiliated his opponent, only to release him in the middle of a cold, autumn night, covered only in tattered rags. Tvrdoslav found his way back to his forces and mounted a last ditch attempt to force the Vistulans out – only to be captured again. Gloating in triumph, Siemowit forced the Croatian prince to cede the border region of Spisz in exchange for freedom.
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Upon his return to Wiślica, Siemowit had to face an unexpected challenge; chieftess Scholastyka, leader of the group of highlander tribes centred around the gród of Sącz, arrived at his court, proposing a deal; the prince would recognize her as the supreme overlady of all lands south of Vistula – and in exchange, she would ensure her tribesmen loyalty and oversee tribute collection in Siemowit's stead.

Infuriated by her audacity, Siemowit challenged the chieftess to a duel – an offer which she recklessly accepted, only to sorely regret once the scion of the Dragonslayer had his way with her.

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The next few years of Siemowit’s rule followed a similar pattern; the prince would set out on a campaign, leaving the courtly matters in his advisors’ hands, to come back a few months later with plunder and fresh slaves. In fact, it seems that this particular approach benefited Vistula greatly; tales of conquest brought countless warriors under the dragon banner, free workforce made it easy to expand roads and fields, and the gold bought whatever Vistulan lands lacked in any way.

Chronicles describing that period take notice of two particular events; one happening in 783, the other in 785.

In 783, grand prince Przemysł of Pomerania led a raid south, into lands inhabited by the Polans. Just like Silesians, the Polans were not members of Vistulan federation – in fact, they led their own faction, roughly equal to Vistulans in power and prestige – but enjoyed cordial relations with the Kraks, leading to several intermarriages. between the families When Przemysł's warriors broke the gates of Gniezdno, among their spoils were fruits of one such marriage – children of Polan warlord Sambor and Siemowit’s unnamed daughter.

When news of their abduction reached Wiślica, Siemowit wasted no time mounting an expedition. He arrived in Gniezdno as soon as his warriors assembled, craving blood. Joined by Sambor and other Polans, he proceeded north, laying waste to Pomeranian lands. Each gród he conquered got burned to the ground, its population sold to slavery or slain. The only exception was the central gród of Kołobrzeg, where Przemysł resided; Siemowit promised to spare it, should his grandchildren be released from custody. Unfortunately, this was not bound to happen; the kids had already been sold to slavery, taken across the sea into the unknown by Norsemen merchants.
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Infuriated, Siemowit went for Przemysł’s own children. Fortunately for them, they all managed to flee their residences and seek shelter within the safe confines of ships headed for Bornholm, Rugia and Sambia. Przemysł’s eldest son and heir, Juliusz, was the closest to meet his demise; his retinue has only barely managed to evacuate him, the last few men chopped to shreds on the ship’s plank just in time for the vessel to set sail. Ultimately, Siemowit came back home with hands soaked in blood – but with his grandchildren lost and vengeance unfulfilled.
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Year 785 brought another blow to the dragon’s pride – Siemowit’s second son, Gierolt, was slain in combat during a skirmish on eastern borderland. While he died a warrior’s death, surrounded by slain Lendian warriors, it seems that his demise shook Siemowit to the core. Some sources suggest that he was, in fact, the prince’s favourite son and designated heir. Others imply that Siemowit and Gierolt merely shared a common interest in matters of warfare and combat – a connection the ruler apparently lacked in his relation with his firstborn son, Marsyn**.
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Whatever the exact case was, one thing is certain – Gierolt’s death pushed Siemowit in an unexpected direction, changing the fate of Wiślica forever...

* - I ran into a small issue when writing about White Croats; I wanted to avoid mistaking them with "actual" Croats, living in the south. Luckily, their land was called Chrobatia in OTL, which is going to be the name used in this AAR. Similarly, all duchies bearing Hungarian names (such as Ungvár) are going to be referred to with their Slavic names.

** - The game generated a son named Marcin - a name of Latin origin (Martinus), pretty common in Polish, but kinda unlikely to happen in pre-christian Slavic society. I decided to take another liberty, invented a legend about a Roman legionnaire settling in Vistulan land and bastardized his name to Marsyn - "son of Mars". I do plan to convert other names this way as the game progresses - just to warn you all ;)
 
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Why did Scholastyka think she could create a vast empire?

Take whatever liberties with the game that you need to for the story.
 
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III: Forging the realm

Contemporary sources consistently portray Siemowit as a beast in human skin. While both Gierolt’s death and his grandchildren being sold to slavery could be seen as personal tragedies, the Vistulan kniaź did a lot to get back at life. Any sign of defiance of dissent towards his rule was met with steel and fire – and those unlucky enough to survive were sure to meet their fates either as goods on slave market, or locked up in a cages for Siemowit’s amusement.

Curiously enough, the seemingly personal interest Siemowit took in slavery and selling out plundered goods resulted in Vistulan merchants gaining contacts in several exotic places, from Arabia to India. While Slavic lands were far from the Silk Road or other prominent trade routes of the 8th century, word of their reaches gradually spread, resulting in quite a few caravans taking a northern detour through Crimea and the steppe, hoping to reach Siemowit’s court.

Interestingly enough, the exchange seemed to be more than just purely material – sources from the mid-780s mention several foreigners settling permanently in Vistulan lands.

One of them was Supayagalay (usually transcribed as Supjaga in Slavic sources); a Myanma noble woman who became bethroted to Siemowit’s third son, Bezprym. Another was Narazeya (Narziej or Naraziej), also hailing from distant Myanma, who became a champion on Siemowit’s court and his personal bodyguard. Apparently the foreigner's wit equaled his prowess, as at some point he managed to be nominated as Siemowit’s representative in the gród of Lublin, at the eastern outskirts of Vistulan domain.

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At roughly the same period, Siemowit left his lands and ventured east, to the sacred groves of Kiev. Unfortunately, very little is known about Slavic pilgrimages and the exact character of rites associated with them; what we know, however, is that shortly after his return, Siemowit embarked on an ambitious effort – one that would outlive him by many centuries.

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In 789, Siemowit called upon all tribal lords and ladies recognizing his suzerainty, summoning them to Wiślica. Such meetings were not an uncommon event in Slavic tribal practice; what made that particular congress unprecedented was its scale. For the first time in Vistulan history, White Croatians from Chrobatia also sent their representatives. Lendian chieftans from gróds of Chełm and Przemyśl have also been present, sitting together with their western and southern bretheren. There, Siemowit demanded that all his subjects renewed their oaths of fealty, recognizing him as wielki kniaź – the supreme overlord of all the tribes.*

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The next few years saw Siemowit’s realm expand rapidly in several directions – by 791, the majority of Chrobatia had been brought under the Vistulan heel. The last independent ruler of those lands – Dragomir, commanding the tribes of Transcarpathia – bent his knee in 793, making Siemowit the undispited hegemon.

On the other side of Slavic lands, the conflict with Pomeranians still simmered throughout the 780s and early 790s; people on both sides were taken captive and sold to slavery, armies clashed and villages got torched. During one such skirmish Siemowit managed to capture prince Przemysł’s war banner.

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Repeated defeats and humiliations finally broke the Pomeranian ruler; according to the later Latopis Perski (Persian Chronicle), Przemysł died in 794, drinking himself to death. Siemowit's response to this news was allegedly as enthusiastic, as eccentric; according to the chronicler, he ordered an effigy of Przemysł to be made out of cloth and hay, filled up with wine and then beheaded - all that as he drank himself into stupor, proving his health was no match to his late rival's.

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Finally, the conquest of Chrobatian lands opened a new frontier for Siemowit and the Vistulans; beyond the Carpathian mountains lied the vast Pannonian basin, inhabited by nomadic Avars, ruling over vestigial Slavic tribes. Unfortunately, we have no first-hand source that would describe the first contact between those two peoples. What we do know, however, is that Siemowit was most eager to organise expeditions into Avar lands, leading two incursions in 793 and 794.

Both attacks coincided with a period of young khagan Rastate’s illness and thus encountered little resistance. Apparently, among the plunder acquired was one item of particular significance; a supposed morsel of saint David, most likely acquired when ransacking a caravan or some from the saddlebags of some unfortunate catholic missionary. Once again, Siemowit’s contacts proved most useful in making the most out of this gain; upon his return to Wiślica, the relic was sold to Arabian merchants, most likely mistaken for a remnant of Israeli king David.

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Compared to that, the second incursion was rather uneventful; according to sources, Siemowit's most prized trophy was a certain Güdeş, a diviner and Tengri “wise woman”, taken into custody in one of many villages dotting the steppe. According to the Persian Chronicle, Siemowit developed a deep interest in Güdeş, hoping to use her skills in ruling his newfound state.

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All this was in naught, however; during his return to Vistulan lands, somewhere between the lands of Spisz and Sącz, Siemowit suddenly fell ill and died in pain. Many theories exist regarding the exact circumstances of his demise; natural death due to age or illness is definitely possible, as is assassination by fearful retainers, worried that the rash and ruthless ruler would blame them for the meager plunder they carried. Finally, it cannot be excluded that it was Güdeş herself who killed the kniaź in an attempt to regain her freedom.

Regardless of the exact reason, just five years after his proclamation, Siemowit left the throne vacant. His fearsome reputation of a dragon incarnate protected the Vistulan realm from foreign incursions and internal strife as long as he lived – but what lied beyond remained to be seen.

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* – funnily enough, without Charlemagne (whose reign was very uneventful in this game, to the point of him being outlived by Karloman), no Slavic language would have the OTL word for king; be it Polish król, Czech král or Croatian krȃlj, they all are derived from Old Slavonic korľь, which is in turn a distorted version of Karl. For the time being, I decided to settle for wielki kniaź (grand duke) – which is the title used in Polish historiography for OTL rulers of Kievan Rus’.
 
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Oh I know what you're talking about. I also tried White Croatian campaign, but in CK 2 I conquered Hungary and somehow converted to Hindu xd

P.S.: Do you know there is a new version of Lux Invicta in work rn? ;)
Wait, Lux Invicta for CK3?! Holy snap, where is the thread/Discord/GitHub/ANYTHING?! :eek:

Why did Scholastyka think she could create a vast empire?

Take whatever liberties with the game that you need to for the story.
Let's just say Scholastyka is not done yet with her shenanigans... ;)
 
It seems as if the king did well for himself, but we shall see if his realm lasts...
 
Sorry for the lack of update this weekend - I was out on vacation and coming back didn't really give me time to write up... ^^' Plus, welp, with the DLC announced I guess I should kinda pick up the pace, lest I get screwed by the update (I know I can revert on Steam, but AFAIK you can't prevent mods from updating...)
No it's still for CK 2, but they are integrating Umbra Spherae, which means more Africa, Far East, Australia maybe even Americas.
I can still give you link if you are interested ;)
Here you are: https://discord.gg/j4sBf5tG
Joined! Guess I'll reinstall CK2 and see how far did my fav mod go in those past few years... :D
 
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Apologies for double post - but I just ran into an actual goddamit moment.

I boot up the game after coming back from vacations, hoping to play as much as possible before the patch drops... And I am greeted with this glorious image:

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From what I can make out, all hybrid cultures created after game start, as well as Lechitic cultures from Culture Expanded, lack any clothes and/or hairstyles. From what I click around the map, it seems that the Avars, Polish and some Turkic/Mongolian cultures are the ones affected.

What is worse, there seems to be no rhyme or reason to that - all cultures with Polish military equipment aesthetic are affected, but those with Turkic or Mongol ones seem to be picked at random - some have full clothing, others not.

What's even stranger, starting up a new game with the exact same set of mods results in no issues - all is fine, cutures that are now naked in my mod are fully and correctly clothed.

I also just noticed the duplicated Known Languages icon visible in the screenshot - but while it all broken characters have it, I also see some perfectly fine characters also having it...

I guess some mod update that dropped in the past two weeks must've screwed the save up. I checked the autosave and it's affected as well.

So uhm... Looks like the game's kinda borked... and unless I find a workaround, so is the AAR. And honestly - even if I manage to do it, with the new patch dropping in two days, the save's gonna be borked anyway. And then the mods. So I guess my best bet is just letting go, waiting for the patch drop and mods like EPE getting updated... and then starting a new game. Kind of a damn shame, since I've been planning this for a while and actually made a couple of restarts before I managed to get it done properly.

For those intrigued - I adopted Manichean as my new faith and hoped to use it as a base for a hybrid dualist/Slavic faith. Guess that has to wait for another time, though...

Sorry for the failed hype, guys... And thanks for all the kind words, reactions and following. I'll be back soon after the update, I still have a couple of campaign ideas I wanted to make!
 
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Apologies for double post - but I just ran into an actual goddamit moment.

I boot up the game after coming back from vacations, hoping to play as much as possible before the patch drops... And I am greeted with this glorious image:


From what I can make out, all hybrid cultures created after game start, as well as Lechitic cultures from Culture Expanded, lack any clothes and/or hairstyles. From what I click around the map, it seems that the Avars, Polish and some Turkic/Mongolian cultures are the ones affected.

What is worse, there seems to be no rhyme or reason to that - all cultures with Polish military equipment aesthetic are affected, but those with Turkic or Mongol ones seem to be picked at random - some have full clothing, others not.

What's even stranger, starting up a new game with the exact same set of mods results in no issues - all is fine, cutures that are now naked in my mod are fully and correctly clothed.

I also just noticed the duplicated Known Languages icon visible in the screenshot - but while it all broken characters have it, I also see some perfectly fine characters also having it...

I guess some mod update that dropped in the past two weeks must've screwed the save up. I checked the autosave and it's affected as well.

So uhm... Looks like the game's kinda borked... and unless I find a workaround, so is the AAR. And honestly - even if I manage to do it, with the new patch dropping in two days, the save's gonna be borked anyway. And then the mods. So I guess my best bet is just letting go, waiting for the patch drop and mods like EPE getting updated... and then starting a new game. Kind of a damn shame, since I've been planning this for a while and actually made a couple of restarts before I managed to get it done properly.

For those intrigued - I adopted Manichean as my new faith and hoped to use it as a base for a hybrid dualist/Slavic faith. Guess that has to wait for another time, though...

Sorry for the failed hype, guys... And thanks for all the kind words, reactions and following. I'll be back soon after the update, I still have a couple of campaign ideas I wanted to make!
That's a great idea. Slavic faith was also dualistic in nature so that would make perfect sense ^^