The Bonaparte Legacy – New Patch

[izvinite_ovo_je_mesara]

There is bug with italy surrender event. I was playing german empire and i was didnt annex Austria. When war started i defeated poles in 2 weeks and capturned paris march of 1940. Throught austria i capturned northen italy and got italy to surrender too in late march. But it didnt. Event fired but only governet changed. War didnt stop nor did france annex most of it like it does normaly. Prehaps it is issue with austria owning land and not me directly. It is under my mil controll btw. It is democratic austria in the allies

 

[Grand Historian]

I just want to pop in and say thank you for keeping this mod alive and still putting out updates. I really admire those who stick with really old games out of a passion for making the best possible experience with them possible.

 

[KOUDOUHAYOKOYAMA]

I played in Japan and the match against China was very interesting. I'm excited that these fictional mods are still being updated!

 

[64VII]

Is there a way to put Philippe Petain as leader of france (or prime minister)?

 

[ImperatorEclipse63]

Are you guys okay with a Hoi4 version of this mod being made? I wanted to get the devs permission before starting anything.

 

[rehtys]

Has anyone won with the Soviets? some tips would be appreciated. It feels near impossible to win as them and not fair or realistic, you get down to literally zero organization for every division, you get like 10 dissent for mobilizing after being attacked, oh and you get 32 revolt risk everywhere for some reason. By the time you get the red army reorg events you won't have anything left.

 

[Nesic8693]

Hello to everybody and Happy New Year!

You might noticed that I was absent from forum for six months and that development of mod have stopped.
So, here what happened:
In June my PC got broken. I managed to save WiP-files for new version, but, replacement PC was too weak for work and testing, so development stopped.
Now that problem is solved and I am back in action.
I think that, if everything goes as planned, by the end of this month new dev.diaries might be posted.

 

[Nesic8693]

Here are some late answers:

There is bug with italy surrender event. I was playing german empire and i was didnt annex Austria. When war started i defeated poles in 2 weeks and capturned paris march of 1940. Throught austria i capturned northen italy and got italy to surrender too in late march. But it didnt. Event fired but only governet changed. War didnt stop nor did france annex most of it like it does normaly. Prehaps it is issue with austria owning land and not me directly. It is under my mil controll btw. It is democratic austria in the allies

Has anyone won with the Soviets? some tips would be appreciated. It feels near impossible to win as them and not fair or realistic, you get down to literally zero organization for every division, you get like 10 dissent for mobilizing after being attacked, oh and you get 32 revolt risk everywhere for some reason. By the time you get the red army reorg events you won't have anything left.

I see to solve/improve this in for the next version. Thanks for info.

Is there a way to put Philippe Petain as leader of france (or prime minister)?

No.
P. Petain died in 1934. In TBL-timeline he is equivalent of P. Hindenburg.

I just want to pop in and say thank you for keeping this mod alive and still putting out updates. I really admire those who stick with really old games out of a passion for making the best possible experience with them possible.

I'm excited that these fictional mods are still being updated!

Thank you for your support.

 

[Nesic8693]

And after more than half year of unexpected pause here it is: The new dev.diary which will cover the whole new event-chain about Civil War in USSR in late 1940s.
There are two cases when this event-chain can start. Both include that two of more extreme factions sieze power in USSR in 1937 - Trotskists or the 'Fourth Way'.
In both cases there is event about 18th Congress of the VKP(B). And in both cases so called 'United Opposition' have opportunity to sieze power.
I they manage to do this, both supporters Trotsky/Zhdanov start preparing to retake power by force. In next couple of month player gets a series of events about planned rebellion in different cities (35 to be precise). Player can chose to initiate crackdown (raises dissent) or to ignore conspirators (lovers dissent):

When the series of event is finished then the Civil War starts:

Trotsky proclaims United Soviet Socialist Federation, while Zhdanov proclaims Union of Soviet People's Republics:

Depending on how player reacted in series of events about organizing of supporters impact will be different. If crackdown is initiated there will be only one division of rebel-militia in that province, while if conspirators are ignored there will be four rebel-militia division. This practically makes each playthrough different:

With the start of Civil War Comintern collapses and each member have opportunity to chose new path in foreign policy. Those who decide to remain followers of Soviets will join alliance with USSR after the Civil War is over:

Set of event is almost identical to those in 'Commonwealth of Soviet Socialist Republic' event-chain, except there are lower AI chance for countries to remain Soviet allies and there are Mao doesn't take power in China.
Side which wins the Civil War reunites the country and starts new path into the Socialist future:

Note: Like in previous dev.diaries this is WiP, could be further improved before release.

 

[J_Master]

Whilst I find it nice that this mod will continue devellopment, and the loss of files is always a sad occurance, I can't help but feel a little dissapointed that the Soviet union is recieving more attention when it basically has recieved so much allready. Not complaining on what you've presented just now, but attention may just be better focussed elsewhere. Anyways, I loaded up a quick Austrian game and here is what I have to note.

Spoiler: Spanish dominions

When Spain releases its dominions, there is this "unknown string wanted" in the log, is this Spain supposed to be puppeting these countries by any chance? Also, maybe include that one province in Northern Borneo as a core of the Phillipines.

Spoiler: Croat oil fields

Croatia suffered from a revolution by the ballot, leading to the Italian invasion. I doubt that in this scenario German devellopment of the Croat oil fields would continue

Spoiler: Mobilization

This event that the "enact partial mobilization" triggers lacks localisation, at least for its title. Whilst enacting partial mobilization the event that adds 65+ strength to all my units also made all my (very limited 40) manpower dissapear, which is the opposite reason why I used that event, since I wanted more mp to continue constructing units. I've also been fighting a whole lot of extremely understrength units, especially in the war with Germany. The AI seems to be still generally really bad in deciding to mobilize.

Spoiler: Soviet-American treaty

Despite the USSA not wanting it, the treaty was still signed, leading to a couple of unknown strings wanted too

Spoiler: British guarantee of CSA independence

Another unknown string wanted spotted at the British guarantee of Confederate independence.

Spoiler: On the wrong side of the war

Immediately after war broke out over Belgium, Italy joined France and manually declared war on me (as far as I can deduce from the series of events and the log. In case of a non-Hitlerist Austria, this would be perfectly acceptable behaviour, but I've taken each pro-France and pro-Italy choice I could have, even getting their backing during the Sudeten Crisis. Maybe have the AI not behave in this way if Austria has not joined the Axis just yet in their war against the Allies.

Spoiler: Sudentenland connectivity

My units that were in the Sudetenland after the German capitulation can't move back to Austria propper as there are a couple of non-crossable province borders there. These are Prachatice to Karlovy Vary and Liberec to Opava. Maybe have the armistace with Germany give Austria military access to access her Sudeten provinces.

Spoiler: German guarantees

It may be a good idea to remove any guarantee Germany has outstanding, as Germany isn't really in the position to guarantee anybody after losing to France.

Spoiler: The end of Czechia

Minor nitpick, but make this decision available in the Austrian decision list after the Sudeten Crisis. I knew of its existance, but another Austrian first timer may not, which would make him manually declare war leading to him missing out on the cores on Czechia.

Spoiler: Tesin

IRL the province of Tesin was a major point of contention between Poland and Czechoslovakia, so much so that when Czechoslovakia was carved up by Nazi Germany that Poland took the territory for herself. Now, it would be no less contentious between Austria and Poland for the same reason. This could make for a nice arbitration event for France, much like Nazi Germany had to arbitrate issue's between her Balkan allies; Slovakia, Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria. Have something akin to the Vienna Award (perhaps the Nancy Award) where France assigns the province to either Poland or Austria.

Spoiler: Free Germany

Spoiler: Free Germany

The establishment of Free Germany was always somewhat awkward to me, as the territory it's assigned at start cuts off the rest of German Equatorial African from coastal acces. Either limit Free Germany to Congo-Gabon at start to leave "Vichy" Germany with access to her colony via Cameroon or assign the whole to Free Germany. I prefer the first option, as it somewhat limits warfare in Africa by virtue of a neutral country in the middle seperating the Sudanese and Sahelese fronts.

Personally I'd make one final reccomendation. The general buildup to war in Europe is some of the oldest stuff in the mod. The central appeal of the mod is a reversal of the WW2 roles of France and Britain after all. It would be nice if these events had a redo. Just so that everything is wholly up to speed with eachother. The stuff regarding the whole Sudeten Crisis feels a bit off, as I as Germany also ended up with the Sudetenland post-Anschluss once. A Unternehmen Tannenbaum equivalent for France would be nice too. And just some stuff regarding the workings of the coup in Spain, as the 2nd Peninsular War scenario reminded me of. Anyways, keep up the good work!

 

[Nesic8693]

Whilst I find it nice that this mod will continue devellopment, and the loss of files is always a sad occurance, I can't help but feel a little dissapointed that the Soviet union is recieving more attention when it basically has recieved so much allready. Not complaining on what you've presented just now, but attention may just be better focussed elsewhere. Anyways, I loaded up a quick Austrian game and here is what I have to note.

Spoiler: Spanish dominions

View attachment 941633
When Spain releases its dominions, there is this "unknown string wanted" in the log, is this Spain supposed to be puppeting these countries by any chance? Also, maybe include that one province in Northern Borneo as a core of the Phillipines.

Spoiler: Croat oil fields

View attachment 941639
Croatia suffered from a revolution by the ballot, leading to the Italian invasion. I doubt that in this scenario German devellopment of the Croat oil fields would continue

Spoiler: Mobilization

View attachment 941641
This event that the "enact partial mobilization" triggers lacks localisation, at least for its title. Whilst enacting partial mobilization the event that adds 65+ strength to all my units also made all my (very limited 40) manpower dissapear, which is the opposite reason why I used that event, since I wanted more mp to continue constructing units. I've also been fighting a whole lot of extremely understrength units, especially in the war with Germany. The AI seems to be still generally really bad in deciding to mobilize.

Spoiler: Soviet-American treaty

View attachment 941642
Despite the USSA not wanting it, the treaty was still signed, leading to a couple of unknown strings wanted too

Spoiler: British guarantee of CSA independence

View attachment 941643
Another unknown string wanted spotted at the British guarantee of Confederate independence.

Spoiler: On the wrong side of the war

View attachment 941644
Immediately after war broke out over Belgium, Italy joined France and manually declared war on me (as far as I can deduce from the series of events and the log. In case of a non-Hitlerist Austria, this would be perfectly acceptable behaviour, but I've taken each pro-France and pro-Italy choice I could have, even getting their backing during the Sudeten Crisis. Maybe have the AI not behave in this way if Austria has not joined the Axis just yet in their war against the Allies.

Spoiler: Sudentenland connectivity

View attachment 941645
My units that were in the Sudetenland after the German capitulation can't move back to Austria propper as there are a couple of non-crossable province borders there. These are Prachatice to Karlovy Vary and Liberec to Opava. Maybe have the armistace with Germany give Austria military access to access her Sudeten provinces.

Spoiler: German guarantees

View attachment 941649
It may be a good idea to remove any guarantee Germany has outstanding, as Germany isn't really in the position to guarantee anybody after losing to France.

Spoiler: The end of Czechia

View attachment 941651
Minor nitpick, but make this decision available in the Austrian decision list after the Sudeten Crisis. I knew of its existance, but another Austrian first timer may not, which would make him manually declare war leading to him missing out on the cores on Czechia.

Spoiler: Tesin

View attachment 941652
IRL the province of Tesin was a major point of contention between Poland and Czechoslovakia, so much so that when Czechoslovakia was carved up by Nazi Germany that Poland took the territory for herself. Now, it would be no less contentious between Austria and Poland for the same reason. This could make for a nice arbitration event for France, much like Nazi Germany had to arbitrate issue's between her Balkan allies; Slovakia, Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria. Have something akin to the Vienna Award (perhaps the Nancy Award) where France assigns the province to either Poland or Austria.

Spoiler: Free Germany

Spoiler: Free Germany

View attachment 941656
The establishment of Free Germany was always somewhat awkward to me, as the territory it's assigned at start cuts off the rest of German Equatorial African from coastal acces. Either limit Free Germany to Congo-Gabon at start to leave "Vichy" Germany with access to her colony via Cameroon or assign the whole to Free Germany. I prefer the first option, as it somewhat limits warfare in Africa by virtue of a neutral country in the middle seperating the Sudanese and Sahelese fronts.

Personally I'd make one final reccomendation. The general buildup to war in Europe is some of the oldest stuff in the mod. The central appeal of the mod is a reversal of the WW2 roles of France and Britain after all. It would be nice if these events had a redo. Just so that everything is wholly up to speed with eachother. The stuff regarding the whole Sudeten Crisis feels a bit off, as I as Germany also ended up with the Sudetenland post-Anschluss once. A Unternehmen Tannenbaum equivalent for France would be nice too. And just some stuff regarding the workings of the coup in Spain, as the 2nd Peninsular War scenario reminded me of. Anyways, keep up the good work!

Thanks for the detailed report.
In short, everything you listed is very useful and will be fixed, improved, implemented.
About ''Unknown String Wanted', that is usually associated with Mobilization system and as you also mentioned there are problems about it.
About focus on Soviets. Well it is always easier to make event-chains where plans are already made and these plains were on waiting list for the long time.

 

[Nesic8693]

This dev.diary will cover the situation in Europe after the Axis victory in WW2, with focus on new event-chain about Austrian expansionist plans.
In TBL-timeline, Hitler is chancellor of Austria, and after the victory he has opportunity to proclaim restoration of Austrian Empire.

As we all know Hitler in our timeline had very megalomaniac plans, and this will most likely be the case in TBL-timeline.
He starts different programs for economic and military expansion.
The Economic expansion:

The Army expansion:

Air Force expansion:

The Nuclear program:

Ottoman Empire and Balkan countries are chosen to be the first target. Hitler meets with Deloncle which agrees with Austrian plans.
Ottomans and Balkan countries are no longer member of Axis block (if they didn't already left the block earlier).

Then Austrians launch 'Operation Prinz Eugen'.

Spoiler: IF AUSTRIANS LOST AUSTRO-OTTOMAN WAR

Ottomans use the opportunity to issue ultimatum and annex weakened Balkan countries (Serbia, Greece, Bulgaria, Albania and Croatia) - by their peaceful surrender or war.

If Reformists control whole Balkan peninsula then Sultanate of Rumelia can be proclaimed - although it gets big revolt risk in provinces without Muslim majority.

In Austria, Hitler is deposed by the coup.

Spoiler: IF AUSTRIANS WON AUSTRO-OTTOMAN WAR

Serbia, Croatia (if it is not Italian puppet), Albania (if it is Ottoman puppet), Northern Greece, Ploesti oil fields and some strategic border area in Romania are all annexed by the Austrian Empire.
Romania, Bulgaria and rest of Greece become Austrian client states.

In the Bosphorus are the Reichprotectorate of the Straits is formed which is practically Austrian military administration, and in Caucasus independet states emerge:

After the the victory Austrian Empire gets opportunity to start expansion of Navy:

After the Austrian victory France is not pleased with growing of Austrian might so they can fund a coup in Vienna to topple Hitler from power.

If coup is successful then Austria-Hungary as Dual-monarchy is restored - Coup will also happen if Austrians are defeated in war against Ottomans.

If it fails relations between Austria and France are ruined and few years late Hitler responds by funding a coup in Germany.

If coup is successful a pro-Austrian Nazis take power.

Hitler then starts a diplomatic offensive to form a pact with Germans and Russians.

After the formation of 'Pact of Will' Austrians then can decide to fund coup in Scandinavia (United Scandinavia or separate countries).

If coup is successful a pro-Austrian Nazis take power.

Then Vlassov decides to fund takeovers in Ukraine, Cossack Federation, Belarus and Baltic Kingdom (If those states exist) or pro-Russian revolts against Poland (if those states doesn't exit).

Vlassov proclaims restoration of Russian Empire while Poland declare war on Russia.

The Great European War starts between Axis block and 'Pact of Will'.

GREAT EUROPEAN WAR
English use the opportunity to reunite the Isles (if Isles are partitioned by French) and chose which side to support or stay neutral.

If USSR still exists in Asia it has opportunity to strike the Russian Empire from the East.

Spoiler: IF AXIS BLOCK WINS THE WAR

If the Axis block wins the war, then Austrian Empire is dismembered, Germany is divided into Northern and Southern state, Vlassov is executed and Bronislav Kaminski takes power. Colossal Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth is created.

Spoiler: IF 'PACT OF WILL' WINS THE WAR

If 'Pact of Will' wins the war, then both France and Italy are dismembered.
Brittany and Burgundy can get separated from France (Higher AI Chance).

Benelux is united as Reichprotectorate.

Austria annex Northeast and central Italy while the rest is divided into three states.

Iberian peninsula could be united, partialy or totally dismembered.

In case of Spain still existing, Hitler can arrange with Habsburgs to sign agreement by which they renounce claims to the Austrian throne and instead get to rule Spain (this is player only option).

A few years after the victory Hitler can organize unification of all Germanic lands (Austrian Empire, Germany, Benelux, Burgundy and Scandinavia) into the Greater Germanic Reich (Also, player-only option).

Note: Like in previous dev.diaries this is WiP, could be further improved before release.

 

[Nesic8693]

This dev.diary will cover the new events about situation in the Middle East after the Axis block won the WW2.
Situation in the Middle East is usually that the Ottomans have secured Iraq, while Egypt switched sides during the war and secured independence.
First of the new events triggers in early 1947. when the Italians can decide to expand their colonies by occuping Egypt.
Italians sponsor a coup which they take as and excusse to send troops into Egypt to 'restore order' and then annex it.

Annexed territory of Egypt and Sudan is then united with Italian East Africa, Tunisia and Lybia to form Italian North-East Africa.

Ottomans are not pleased by this action and they leave the Axis block as sign of protest.

Alternative outcome is that Italian coup in Egypt is crushed. In that case both Ottoman Empire and Egypt leave Axis block and form their own alliance with Egypt becoming khedivate once again and recognise Ottoman Sultan as suppreme ruler.

The course of future events is then decided by the outcome of Austro-Ottoman War.
In the first days of war, Saudis use an opportunity to attack Ottomans with goal of siezing their Arab provinces.

Spoiler: IF OTTOMANS LOST AUSTRO-OTTOMAN WAR

When Ottomans are defeated their Empire collapse.
In Asia, Saudis sieze Arab provinces, while independent Kurdistan is proclaimed.
If Ottomans control Caucassus, Cossacks take some land, while independent states of Armenia, Georgia and Caucassus Emirate are proclaimed.

Kurds can then chose to ally with Republic of China.

Armenians and Georgians can chose to ally with Austrians.

While, natural ally of Caucassus Emirate is now expanded Saudi Arabia.

After that Saudis can attack Oman and Yemen.

Later, if/when Great European War starts Saudis have an opportunity to attack Italian and French colonies in North Africa in order to liberate and unite all Arabs.
Saudi goal is to sieze the land before France and Italy capitulate, because if they don't manage to achive victory before that than all the colonies are sieze by Austrian Empire.

With Italy being busy in Europe, Revolution starts in Ethiopia. Country proclaims independence and can chose to ally with Republic of China.

Spoiler: IF OTTOMANS WON AUSTRO-OTTOMAN WAR

First, Oman and Yemen can be attacked (both by Ottoman Empire or Sultanate of Levant).

Then, Ottomans can take different paths depending of which group is in power in Istambul:
If Conservatives are in power, than Ottaman Empire choses to ally with Republic of China.

If Nationalists are in power, than plans for further expansion are made.

An incident at Suez cannal is used as excuse to start to start the war with Axis block.

If Reformists are in power, than Ottomans can chose to start funding the Arab revolt in Northern Africa.

As revolt starts Khedivate of Egypt and Sultanate of Maghreb are proclaimed and they ally with Ottomans.

Also, Revolution starts in Ethiopia. Country proclaims independence and can chose to ally with Republic of China.

France, then, of course, declare war on Turkish Empire.

If Axis block defeat Ottomans, Empire collapses and then Kurds get independence and ally with Republic of China. Armenians and Georgians ally with France, while Caucassus Emirate ally with Saudies (if they are still independent).

Note: Like in previous dev.diaries this is WiP, could be further improved before release.

 

[Night_147]

Any way this could be ported to the E3 Map?

 

[Pasha]

Look amazing and I love the flags! You've put a lot of work into this mod!

 

[64VII]

Is there a date for the update's release?

 

[Nesic8693]

Any way this could be ported to the E3 Map?

Nope

Look amazing and I love the flags! You've put a lot of work into this mod!

Thanks

Is there a date for the update's release?

Let's say, very soon.

 

[64VII]

 

[Conquerer1234]

View attachment 947128
This dev.diary will cover the new events about situation in the Middle East after the Axis block won the WW2.
Situation in the Middle East is usually that the Ottomans have secured Iraq, while Egypt switched sides during the war and secured independence.
First of the new events triggers in early 1947. when the Italians can decide to expand their colonies by occuping Egypt.
Italians sponsor a coup which they take as and excusse to send troops into Egypt to 'restore order' and then annex it.
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Annexed territory of Egypt and Sudan is then united with Italian East Africa, Tunisia and Lybia to form Italian North-East Africa.
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Ottomans are not pleased by this action and they leave the Axis block as sign of protest.
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Alternative outcome is that Italian coup in Egypt is crushed. In that case both Ottoman Empire and Egypt leave Axis block and form their own alliance with Egypt becoming khedivate once again and recognise Ottoman Sultan as suppreme ruler.
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The course of future events is then decided by the outcome of Austro-Ottoman War.
In the first days of war, Saudis use an opportunity to attack Ottomans with goal of siezing their Arab provinces.
View attachment 947137

Spoiler: IF OTTOMANS LOST AUSTRO-OTTOMAN WAR

When Ottomans are defeated their Empire collapse.
In Asia, Saudis sieze Arab provinces, while independent Kurdistan is proclaimed.
If Ottomans control Caucassus, Cossacks take some land, while independent states of Armenia, Georgia and Caucassus Emirate are proclaimed.
View attachment 947138
Kurds can then chose to ally with Republic of China.
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Armenians and Georgians can chose to ally with Austrians.
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While, natural ally of Caucassus Emirate is now expanded Saudi Arabia.
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After that Saudis can attack Oman and Yemen.
View attachment 947142
Later, if/when Great European War starts Saudis have an opportunity to attack Italian and French colonies in North Africa in order to liberate and unite all Arabs.
Saudi goal is to sieze the land before France and Italy capitulate, because if they don't manage to achive victory before that than all the colonies are sieze by Austrian Empire.
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With Italy being busy in Europe, Revolution starts in Ethiopia. Country proclaims independence and can chose to ally with Republic of China.
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Spoiler: IF OTTOMANS WON AUSTRO-OTTOMAN WAR

First, Oman and Yemen can be attacked (both by Ottoman Empire or Sultanate of Levant).
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Then, Ottomans can take different paths depending of which group is in power in Istambul:
If Conservatives are in power, than Ottaman Empire choses to ally with Republic of China.
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If Nationalists are in power, than plans for further expansion are made.
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An incident at Suez cannal is used as excuse to start to start the war with Axis block.
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If Reformists are in power, than Ottomans can chose to start funding the Arab revolt in Northern Africa.
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As revolt starts Khedivate of Egypt and Sultanate of Maghreb are proclaimed and they ally with Ottomans.
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Also, Revolution starts in Ethiopia. Country proclaims independence and can chose to ally with Republic of China.
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France, then, of course, declare war on Turkish Empire.
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If Axis block defeat Ottomans, Empire collapses and then Kurds get independence and ally with Republic of China. Armenians and Georgians ally with France, while Caucassus Emirate ally with Saudies (if they are still independent).
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Note: Like in previous dev.diaries this is WiP, could be further improved before release.

some fourth shore stuff seems nice, but to be honest the Ottoman Provinces could be called Vilayets (the Ottoman term for Provinces rather than Sultanates, as that denotes independence from the Sublime Porte) or you could revive the old Elayet system used by the Ottomans pre-1867.

 

[erica]

The picture of Otto Schöbel is wrong, that's Rendulic.

The correct picture↓