Reach For The Stars - a C# Aurora 2.1.0 Forum Game - Hosted by Blue Emu

[blue emu]

Sounds like a nice boom - we need an All Big Guns space battleship!

Since the time we built the Attitudes, we've gained one level each of Engine tech, Power Plant tech, Beam Fire Control tech, and Capacitor Recharge Rate tech; and two levels of Laser tech. The Capacitor Recharge Rate 6 tech was critical.

So I was planning to do a direct upgrade of the Attitudes (the same number of more modern engines, the same number and caliber of more modern Lasers, etc) which will leave their weight of fire unchanged but double their rate of fire from one broadside per ten seconds to one broadside per five seconds.

Then I would also design a Battleship (with 25 cm guns instead of the Attitude's 15 cm guns) and that Fast PD Escort with the humungous spinal-mounted Laser.

 

[Avernite]

Since the time we built the Attitudes, we've gained one level each of Engine tech, Power Plant tech, Beam Fire Control tech, and Capacitor Recharge Rate tech; and two levels of Laser tech. The Capacitor Recharge Rate 6 tech was critical.

So I was planning to do a direct upgrade of the Attitudes (the same number of more modern engines, the same number and caliber of more modern Lasers, etc) which will leave their weight of fire unchanged but double their rate of fire from one broadside per ten seconds to one broadside per five seconds.

Then I would also design a Battleship (with 25 cm guns instead of the Attitude's 15 cm guns) and that Fast PD Escort with the humungous spinal-mounted Laser.

Nice ideas, but the battleship should obviously be our TOP priority!

 

[blue emu]

Nice ideas, but the battleship should obviously be our TOP priority!

It's in the works.

Here's the Attitude upgrade.

The current model, which we used to fight the Jerx:

Attitude class Battlecruiser 18,750 tons 412 Crew 2,790.7 BP TCS 375 TH 2,250 EM 0
6000 km/s Armour 8-62 Shields 0-0 HTK 125 Sensors 6/11/0/0 DCR 12 PPV 74.32
Maint Life 1.62 Years MSP 1,162 AFR 225% IFR 3.1% 1YR 518 5YR 7,771 Max Repair 375 MSP
Captain Control Rating 2 BRG AUX
Intended Deployment Time: 15 months Morale Check Required

Ion Drive EP750.00 60 HS 1985 (3) Power 2250 Fuel Use 28.58% Signature 750 Explosion 10%
Fuel Capacity 1,445,000 Litres Range 48.5 billion km (93 days at full power)

Twin 15.0cm C3 A4 Visible Light Laser 1979 Turret (3x2) Range 120,000km TS: 10000 km/s Power 12-6 RM 20,000 km ROF 10
Triple Gauss Cannon R300-100 T20k 1981 Turret (1x9) Range 30,000km TS: 20000 km/s Power 0-0 RM 30,000 km ROF 5
Beam Fire Control R128-TS20000 1988 (1) Max Range: 128,000 km TS: 20,000 km/s 92 84 77 69 61 53 45 38 30 22
Beam Fire Control R256-TS10000 1988 (1) Max Range: 256,000 km TS: 10,000 km/s 96 92 88 84 80 77 73 69 65 61
Magnetic Mirror Fusion Reactor R6 (1) Total Power Output 6.2 Exp 5%
Magnetic Mirror Fusion Reactor R12 (1) Total Power Output 12.1 Exp 5%

Civ-PD Active Search Sensor AS11-R1 (1) GPS 28 Range 11.2m km MCR 1m km Resolution 1
CIV Active Search Sensor AS39-R100 1985 (1) GPS 2100 Range 39.8m km Resolution 100
EM Sensor EM1.0-11.0 (1) Sensitivity 11 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 26.2m km
Thermal Sensor TH1.0-6.0 (1) Sensitivity 6 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 19.4m km

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
This design is classed as a Warship for auto-assignment purposes

And the new, upgraded version:

Attitude II class Battlecruiser 18,750 tons 414 Crew 3,566.6 BP TCS 375 TH 2,880 EM 0
7680 km/s Armour 8-62 Shields 0-0 HTK 123 Sensors 6/11/0/0 DCR 12 PPV 71.53
Maint Life 1.60 Years MSP 1,486 AFR 225% IFR 3.1% 1YR 677 5YR 10,157 Max Repair 480 MSP
Captain Control Rating 2 BRG AUX
Intended Deployment Time: 15 months Morale Check Required

Magneto-plasma Drive EP960.00 1992 (3) Power 2880 Fuel Use 24.49% Signature 960 Explosion 10%
Fuel Capacity 1,527,000 Litres Range 59.8 billion km (90 days at full power)

Twin 15.0cm C6 Far Ultraviolet Laser 1996 Turret (3x2) Range 300,000km TS: 10000 km/s Power 12-12 RM 50,000 km ROF 5
Triple Gauss Cannon R300-100 T20k 1981 Turret (1x9) Range 30,000km TS: 20000 km/s Power 0-0 RM 30,000 km ROF 5
Beam PD Fire Control R160-TS20000 1996 (1) Max Range: 160,000 km TS: 20,000 km/s 94 88 81 75 69 62 56 50 44 38
Beam Fire Control R320-TS10000 1996 (1) Max Range: 320,000 km TS: 10,000 km/s 97 94 91 88 84 81 78 75 72 69
Stellarator Fusion Reactor R18 1996 (2) Total Power Output 36.2 Exp 5%

Civ-PD Active Search Sensor AS11-R1 (1) GPS 28 Range 11.2m km MCR 1m km Resolution 1
CIV Active Search Sensor AS39-R100 1985 (1) GPS 2100 Range 39.8m km Resolution 100
EM Sensor EM1.0-11.0 (1) Sensitivity 11 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 26.2m km
Thermal Sensor TH1.0-6.0 (1) Sensitivity 6 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 19.4m km

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
This design is classed as a Warship for auto-assignment purposes

Same armor, same sensors, same number and caliber of guns, but 1,680 kps faster, 11 billion km longer cruising range, with guns that fire twice as often and with their firing range more than doubled.

 

[blue emu]

The current Light Cruiser PD Escort:

Animal II class Escort Cruiser 18,750 tons 365 Crew 2,728.7 BP TCS 375 TH 2,250 EM 0
6000 km/s Armour 8-62 Shields 0-0 HTK 118 Sensors 6/11/0/0 DCR 12 PPV 89.58
Maint Life 1.42 Years MSP 1,091 AFR 234% IFR 3.3% 1YR 596 5YR 8,940 Max Repair 375 MSP
Captain Control Rating 2 BRG AUX
Intended Deployment Time: 14 months Morale Check Required

Ion Drive EP750.00 60 HS 1985 (3) Power 2250 Fuel Use 28.58% Signature 750 Explosion 10%
Fuel Capacity 1,245,000 Litres Range 41.8 billion km (80 days at full power)

Triple Gauss Cannon R300-100 T20k 1981 Turret (3x9) Range 30,000km TS: 20000 km/s Power 0-0 RM 30,000 km ROF 5
Beam Fire Control R128-TS20000 1988 (1) Max Range: 128,000 km TS: 20,000 km/s 92 84 77 69 61 53 45 38 30 22

Civ-PD Active Search Sensor AS11-R1 (1) GPS 28 Range 11.2m km MCR 1m km Resolution 1
EM Sensor EM1.0-11.0 (1) Sensitivity 11 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 26.2m km
Thermal Sensor TH1.0-6.0 (1) Sensitivity 6 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 19.4m km

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
This design is classed as a Warship for auto-assignment purposes

And the new upgraded version:

Animal III class Escort Cruiser 18,750 tons 388 Crew 3,269.1 BP TCS 375 TH 2,880 EM 0
7680 km/s Armour 8-62 Shields 0-0 HTK 109 Sensors 6/11/0/0 DCR 12 PPV 71.72
Maint Life 1.42 Years MSP 1,307 AFR 234% IFR 3.3% 1YR 708 5YR 10,614 Max Repair 480 MSP
Captain Control Rating 2 BRG AUX
Intended Deployment Time: 14 months Morale Check Required

Magneto-plasma Drive EP960.00 1992 (3) Power 2880 Fuel Use 24.49% Signature 960 Explosion 10%
Fuel Capacity 1,828,000 Litres Range 71.6 billion km (107 days at full power)

37.50cm C6 Far Ultraviolet Laser 1996 (1) Range 320,000km TS: 7,680 km/s Power 37-6 RM 50,000 km ROF 35
Triple Gauss Cannon R300-100 T20k 1981 Turret (2x9) Range 30,000km TS: 20000 km/s Power 0-0 RM 30,000 km ROF 5
Beam PD Fire Control R160-TS20000 1996 (1) Max Range: 160,000 km TS: 20,000 km/s 94 88 81 75 69 62 56 50 44 38
Beam Fire Control R320-TS10000 1996 (1) Max Range: 320,000 km TS: 10,000 km/s 97 94 91 88 84 81 78 75 72 69
Stellarator Fusion Reactor R6 (1) Total Power Output 6.4 Exp 5%

Civ-PD Active Search Sensor AS11-R1 (1) GPS 28 Range 11.2m km MCR 1m km Resolution 1
EM Sensor EM1.0-11.0 (1) Sensitivity 11 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 26.2m km
Thermal Sensor TH1.0-6.0 (1) Sensitivity 6 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 19.4m km

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
This design is classed as a Warship for auto-assignment purposes

Again the speed increases by 1,680 kps. Cruising range nearly doubles from 40 to 70 billion km. This version of the Animal class Light Cruiser trades one of its three Gauss PD turrets for a spinal mounted Laser that hits like a truck and has a range of 320,000 km (with a Fire Control to back that up).

 

[blue emu]

I'll think about the new Battleship, and post a tentative design tomorrow.

 

[nuclearslurpee]

Scientist Nuclearslurpee is now working on designs for the largest and nastiest Laser we can currently construct:

View attachment 889583

37 points of damage per hit, and its maximum range is actually so high that it gets clipped... the game imposes an absolute maximum of 1.5 million km on all Beam combat, and if it were legal to do so this puppy could hit things more than a light-second BEYOND that range.

This extra 350,000 km range at which it isn't permitted to shoot is actually useful, since the damage-per-hit is calculated based on the current range vs theoretical maximum range.

I'm thinking of using this monster laser as a spinal mount for our fast PD escorts.

It's funny how you think I'm developing this laser for you to put on your ships, and not for me to hoard all to myself and achieve world dominance.

 

[blue emu]

Here's a tentative design for a new Battle-class Battlecruiser:

Battle class Battlecruiser 30,000 tons 658 Crew 5,785.7 BP TCS 600 TH 4,800 EM 0
8000 km/s Armour 10-86 Shields 0-0 HTK 170 Sensors 6/11/0/0 DCR 14 PPV 111.1
Maint Life 1.08 Years MSP 1,808 AFR 480% IFR 6.7% 1YR 1,572 5YR 23,580 Max Repair 480 MSP
Captain Control Rating 2 BRG AUX
Intended Deployment Time: 15 months Morale Check Required

Magneto-plasma Drive EP960.00 1992 (5) Power 4800 Fuel Use 24.49% Signature 960 Explosion 10%
Fuel Capacity 2,286,000 Litres Range 56 billion km (81 days at full power)

Twin 25.0cm C6 Far Ultraviolet Laser 1996 Turret (4x2) Range 320,000km TS: 10000 km/s Power 32-12 RM 50,000 km ROF 15
Triple Gauss Cannon R300-100 T20k 1981 Turret (1x9) Range 30,000km TS: 20000 km/s Power 0-0 RM 30,000 km ROF 5
Beam PD Fire Control R160-TS20000 1996 (1) Max Range: 160,000 km TS: 20,000 km/s 94 88 81 75 69 62 56 50 44 38
Beam Fire Control R320-TS10000 1996 (2) Max Range: 320,000 km TS: 10,000 km/s 97 94 91 88 84 81 78 75 72 69
Stellarator Fusion Reactor R18 1996 (2) Total Power Output 36.2 Exp 5%
Stellarator Fusion Reactor R6 (2) Total Power Output 12.8 Exp 5%

Civ-PD Active Search Sensor AS11-R1 (1) GPS 28 Range 11.2m km MCR 1m km Resolution 1
CIV Active Search Sensor AS39-R100 1985 (1) GPS 2100 Range 39.8m km Resolution 100
EM Sensor EM1.0-11.0 (1) Sensitivity 11 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 26.2m km
Thermal Sensor TH1.0-6.0 (1) Sensitivity 6 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 19.4m km

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
This design is classed as a Warship for auto-assignment purposes

We would be re-branding our Attitudes (formerly Battlecruisers) as Heavy Cruisers, and adopting this design as our Battlecruiser.

8,000 kps speed, 56 billion km cruising range, 320,000 km firing range, ten layers of armor, eight 25 cm Lasers in four twin turrets under two long-range Fire Controls, one Gauss PD turret with its own Fire Control, the usual sensor suite.

Comments?

 

[nuclearslurpee]

Seems like a strong evolution of our ship design philosophy. Personally, I don't see why we would mount 10000 km/s tracking turrets on an 8000 km/s hull and pay for all that extra tonnage, but other than that it is a reasonably solid design.

 

[blue emu]

Seems like a strong evolution of our ship design philosophy. Personally, I don't see why we would mount 10000 km/s tracking turrets on an 8000 km/s hull and pay for all that extra tonnage, but other than that it is a reasonably solid design.

I can make an alternative design with casemated (instead of Turreted) Lasers, for comparison.

 

[blue emu]

How about this?

Battle class Battlecruiser 30,000 tons 716 Crew 5,891.7 BP TCS 600 TH 4,800 EM 0
8000 km/s Armour 10-86 Shields 0-0 HTK 166 Sensors 6/11/0/0 DCR 14 PPV 105.86
Maint Life 1.13 Years MSP 1,841 AFR 480% IFR 6.7% 1YR 1,467 5YR 21,998 Max Repair 480 MSP
Captain Control Rating 2 BRG AUX
Intended Deployment Time: 15 months Morale Check Required

Magneto-plasma Drive EP960.00 1992 (5) Power 4800 Fuel Use 24.49% Signature 960 Explosion 10%
Fuel Capacity 2,353,000 Litres Range 57.6 billion km (83 days at full power)

37.50cm C6 Far Ultraviolet Laser 1996 (1) Range 320,000km TS: 8,000 km/s Power 37-6 RM 50,000 km ROF 35
25.0cm C6 Far Ultraviolet Laser 1996 (8) Range 320,000km TS: 8,000 km/s Power 16-6 RM 50,000 km ROF 15
Triple Gauss Cannon R300-100 T20k 1981 Turret (1x9) Range 30,000km TS: 20000 km/s Power 0-0 RM 30,000 km ROF 5
Beam PD Fire Control R160-TS20000 1996 (1) Max Range: 160,000 km TS: 20,000 km/s 94 88 81 75 69 62 56 50 44 38
Beam Fire Control R320-TS10000 1996 (2) Max Range: 320,000 km TS: 10,000 km/s 97 94 91 88 84 81 78 75 72 69
Stellarator Fusion Reactor R18 1996 (2) Total Power Output 36.2 Exp 5%
Stellarator Fusion Reactor R6 (3) Total Power Output 19.2 Exp 5%

Civ-PD Active Search Sensor AS11-R1 (1) GPS 28 Range 11.2m km MCR 1m km Resolution 1
CIV Active Search Sensor AS39-R100 1985 (1) GPS 2100 Range 39.8m km Resolution 100
EM Sensor EM1.0-11.0 (1) Sensitivity 11 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 26.2m km
Thermal Sensor TH1.0-6.0 (1) Sensitivity 6 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 19.4m km

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
This design is classed as a Warship for auto-assignment purposes

Instead of eight turreted Lasers (16 damage each), it has eight casemated Lasers (16 damage each) plus that huge 37-damage spinal mount Laser.

 

[Avernite]

How about this?



Instead of eight turreted Lasers (16 damage each), it has eight casemated Lasers (16 damage each) plus that huge 37-damage spinal mount Laser.

Awesome! 37-boom!

 

[blue emu]

Awesome! 37-boom!

Since it's a spinal mount, each ship is only able to carry one (plus eight more 25 cm Lasers).

This design is sort of like a 30,000-ton version of the A-10 Warthog.

 

[Iche_Bins]

Big boom, I love it.

 

[nuclearslurpee]

Spinal lasers are always good to have, even though you can only mount one of them the added armor penetration means you get an outsized amount of extra internal damage relative to the weight of numbers. Plus a bit more long-range capability is nice to have.

 

[El Pip]

Plus a bit more long-range capability is nice to have.

Cries in Carrier Commander.

 

[nuclearslurpee]

Cries in Coward.

FTFY, either drive closer so Blue Emu can hit them with his space buster sword or hide out in the lab with me.

 

[El Pip]

FTFY, either drive closer so Blue Emu can hit them with his space buster sword or hide out in the lab with me.

Using the carriers as slow, expensive and vulnerable gauss PD ships? It's a bold strategy I grant you that.

However it does sound better than just floating around doing nothing and that appears to be the only other option, so on that basis I vigorously support this plan. Better to burn out than to fade away and all that.

 

[blue emu]

One of our yards is now retooling for Battle class Battlecruisers. Another yard is retooling for the Attitude => Attitude II Heavy Cruiser conversion.

 

[Iche_Bins]

Can I transfer to one of these new and fancy toys?

 

[blue emu]

The Battles? As soon as they are built, sure.

So can El Pip, if he wants to transfer to the shootin' Navy.