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Stellaris Dev Diary #299 - Civics, Origins, and Traditions

Hello and welcome back to my little corner in the Arctic! It’s Marek again, and today I will showcase some of the new empire creation stuff we made for you. I bet you already suspected from the title that it will be about Civics, Origins (or, Origin to be precise) and traditions!

Watch the video Dev Diary:

Civics focused on leaders… but not always
Doing our design run on the potential civics, we had to take into account a few different things:
  • We should focus on civics, effects and modifiers targeting leaders in some way
  • We also want to add new ways for players to play their empire
  • We need to remember to strengthen the fantasy for certain playstyles, that are still not present in the game

So we decided to do everything - instead of being content with just going 1-2 civics per empire type. That’s why we ended up with… 8 unique civics (if you count copies of civics which are just an adjusted version for different empire types - then the number is 12), sprinkled around Standard Empires, Megacorps, Hive Minds and Machine Intelligence.

Vaults full of knowledge
For our most iconic civic, we picked the one which allows you to store the knowledge of your leaders, to enhance your future leaders. To sum it up a bit, every leader who manages to survive up to level 8, will give a bonus to the unique building provided by the civic - where the story, experience or knowledge of this leader will be stored for future generations.
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All this knowledge, just enter the vault and search for it

They will be like us… either they like it, or not
The next civic, we decided to make something which would showcase some of our more fancy traits as soon as possible. But I also wanted to play an empire which embarks on a holy war to turn everyone into a proper clone of my ethics. And to have some war civic, which would not be useful for expansionists, conquer everything empires.

The whole idea around this civic is not being religious (hence you don’t need to be spiritualist to take it), but more a fanatic towards proselytizing your ethos to others. After all, they were converting people to their moral values on their planet, why would they stop doing that when in space?

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Zealot trait is one of my favorite Veteran Traits, and it’s the only reason I made this civic, so I will get it on every Admiral - the above is just an excuse

But what about the profits?!
Let’s not forget about these players who like to play the MegaCorp, as we also have something fancy. Megacorp themes are usually centered around dystopian corporations running the country, either at the forefront, or from the shadows. Here we wanted to add a new brick to this player fantasy, which we felt was lacking.
And this is how Pharma State was made, giving a boost to Medical Workers and also unlocking a new Corporate Building for your fancy Branch offices! Be it an illicit place making people go bankrupt by providing aesthetic surgeries for credit or a company focused on making lives better (with a hefty profit margin, of course), the choice is yours to take.
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We just invented new ways of preventing coughing! Instead of standard 7 days treatment it will take only 1 week to get rid of it, so definitely worth the 50% increase in price!

Profits are not everything! (what?)
The efficiency of the processes is also critical for any MegaCorporation success.
Inefficient work can lead to serious mismanagement, loss of profits (well, so there is the profit part) and a potential loss of “worker of the month” status. After all, you are not just a cog in the machine. You are a very precise cog, which keeps the company afloat!

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The superb organization skills of this MegaCorp allows it to hire more cogs, er I mean leaders.

Something for Gestalts?
Gestalts are, in a way, the opposite of Galactic Paragons DLC - which is centered around individuals, their growth and path to glory / power / wealth / levels. So we came with these two civics, focused on making their leaders a bit more “individual” compared to other gestalts. Both Hive Minds and Machine Intelligences with these civics will give more freedom of thought to their leaders, allowing them to focus their consciousness on different matters - which should also help a bit with leader Unity upkeep, as the base change from 2 to 1 is effectively 50% leader upkeep reduction (which is then put into easier to get resources).
It’s almost like delegating by consuming more nutrients!

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There is clearly no modifier after the upkeep change.

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This one was easier to make then the previous one, the hidden modifier is less obvious.

But that’s not 8 civics!
Well, where is the fun of speculating or exploring the civics by yourself? Here are some teasers about the missing ones (but also let me tell you that Vaults are present for every type of empire, just adjusted a bit for them).

There is no reward for guessing the civic and its effects, but you can always brag about it if you put your prediction in post and then it turns out to be true.

Can you spot what is wrong with this planet? I’m not asking about the Aristocratic Elite civic buildings.

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Perfectly balanced building composition, as all things should be.

Here are some more, which we won’t go over super tiny details.
[EFFECT.RandomizeNamesOrder] Letters of Marque, Neural Vaults and Heroic Past.
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Other civics, should be easy to connect them to the names below

To give them some descriptions:
Heroic Past
puts the empire into something like legendary / heroic figure worship, which is focused on creating better leaders faster than other empires. Taking this civic, the empire shows that it’s dedicated to growing their citizens into exceptional individuals who will lead it to a great future! (or to die when entering the system with Ether Drake by accident - we do not promise that your leaders will actually survive to become true legends)

Letters of Marque is our take on the fantasy around pirates working for big MegaCorp, helping them in dealing with anything which requires firepower. Why spend money on fighting piracy, where you can spend money on hiring pirates to do your bidding? Be it raiding your neighbors or… keeping other pirates in check.

The Neural Vaults are an adjusted version of Vaults of Knowledge, so you can extract memories from efficient drones and then use these memories in creating more powerful leaders.

Yes, I thought that giving 1 screenshot per civic would bloat the DD with too many pictures. And yes, I know that you can guess the MegaCorp civic by its color.

One to Rule Them All - Galactic Paragon ruler origin
Under One Rule is a semi-story origin, with a lot of different outcomes based on the empire composition and in-game choices. If someone asked me what was the inspiration, I would say a certain person from the Invincible series (his name starts with O) - and some historical characters, like Charlemagne.

But the main theme is about an empire interconnected with an exceptional individual who, instead of unifying peacefully, unified the planet by… other means. Imagine the New World Order First Contact event, but at a later date, with a ruler who actually succeeded in staying in power. This exceptional leader is the Luminary of the empire, the one who brought the new age, and promised the glory of the stars to his or her people (or it). I guess you get it by now ;)

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Beware of your actions!

As we had time to do only one Origin, we decided to follow the more story-like approach BUT! We tried to not go the way of the story-story only. It’s more of a road of the Luminary leader to fulfill his destiny, which is in the player's hands. There are 4 (or more, depending on how you count it) different outcomes based on the player choices, with a special route which I used to call “I don’t care about the story that much”, which bypasses a lot of story content by also bypassing a lot of potential power gains.

For those who will see the Dictatorial requirement and are baffled why they can’t be imperial with this Origin - as every story goes its own path, there are possibilities in game to pursue different goals than staying true to the Founding Myth (yes, this means that there are events which allows to change the Authority Type, and I’m not afraid to spoil them as they happen fairly quickly).

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This isn't even my final form.

But let’s talk about more mechanical aspects - the main feature of the Origin is to give the player a strong starting ruler, with a unique set of powerful starting council traits (all can be tiered up to tier III, so there is room to grow the leader). These traits, in opposition to standard council traits, are not based on Leader Class, but instead on Empire Ethics. To say it short - there are 14 traits to choose from.

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There are also unique negative traits which might put some “bad mojo” into your Luminary - and they are tied to Empire Ethics as well.

And remember to not be overly tyrannical to your people… or maybe there is a hidden power in being the evil ruler? Or maybe that’s just a trick from me so you will use colossus on your capital planet (but seriously, don’t do that)?

We are close to the finish line now, so as tradition would make us do, let’s talk about our last feature in this Dev Diary.

Tradition Trees, Aptitude and StateCraft
Our choice for themes of the tradition trees was quite easy, and let’s be honest with that. We have leader rework and new Council features. I bet you already see where it is going.

Let’s start with the Leader Tradition Tree, our Aptitude
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This was supposed to be a funny Aptitude-Altitude pun, but I deleted it and forgot how it went.

With the new Aptitude, your empires will focus themselves on leaders, giving them bigger and smaller buffs, with the EXP rate being the most obvious one. It's a solid tree if one wants to focus on leaders, but if it’s not your thing, then the tree is possible best to stay away from.

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Starting Traits make up for a potential stronger leader at the end, as they will be able to get 1 more trait compared to leaders without this bonus.

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Champions of the Empire is the fanciest one you can unlock from the tree.

Next one is the Statecraft tree!
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I see 5 pictures, and in 4 of them someone is doing something with their hands. I petition the 5th picture to also include at least one hand.

It’s easy to pinpoint it to Council feature, having stronger councilors and, somewhat, also boosting leaders. Although, if your empire is not focused on leaders, it might still profit from the non-leader oriented effects and modifiers to build up a strong government to run the show. So, to sum it up, it’s about… leading a state. Fitting name, is it not?

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Effective Councilor Skill is my favorite modifier in the whole DLC. I want to thank Karl who fought for this modifier.


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This bonus is pretty nice when you have a lot of leaders and play around with Agendas.

So! We are at the end of the road for this Dev Diary. And we are pretty close to the release date, there are a few things I would like to say to you: Speculate! Write posts on forums! Play Stellaris! And have fun doing so! :D

By the way, a gentle reminder to Wishlist Galactic Paragons on Steam!
 
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Can you spot what is wrong with this planet? I’m not asking about the Aristocratic Elite civic buildings.

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Perfectly balanced building composition, as all things should be.
It doesn't use the new "Forge/Foundry Capital" designation, which would apparently boost alloys output by +20% instead of +10%. And it isn't fully ascended, for an even better alloy bonus.
And no military academy to boost all those defensive armies, I guess.
 
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They probably used the console to terraform it for the screenshot. I've noticed from messing around for modding that (usually) when you terraform with the console, the background does not also update and will stay the original planet class until you reload the game.
In my games, this happens without any console commands. The background updates only after few month.
 
As an idle observation I wonder if the dev's lack of response in this diary and the last is a sign of how much work they're doing ahead of the patch. Looking forward to seeing the size of the patch notes for 3.8. Especially as things like the vassal trust rework have been pushed to 3.9.
 
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As an idle observation I wonder if the dev's lack of response in this diary and the last is a sign of how much work they're doing ahead of the patch. Looking forward to seeing the size of the patch notes for 3.8. Especially as things like the vassal trust rework have been pushed to 3.9.
It is currently 5:26PM in Stockholm. I suspect they just went home for the day, and don't feel like working after hours to answer forum comments. We'll get some answers in ~16 hours.
 
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It is currently 5:26PM in Stockholm. I suspect they just went home for the day, and don't feel like working after hours to answer forum comments. We'll get some answers in ~16 hours.

Currently yes, though typically in dev diaries there's a good amount of interaction in the hours following the release
 
I mean this in a loving way, because I'm very happy to get megacorp content that isn't just a clone of normal civics, but:
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The name "Pharma State" and the description here just... they don't seem to be in the same style/voice as other megacorp civics. This reads closer to modded content.

Really I think it's just "Pharma State" being too on the nose, especially the word Pharma.
If we use other megacorp civics as a guide, one might expect "Monetized Medicines" or the like.

I just felt I had to say it; I accept my downvotes.
 
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1. Will new Leaders interact with Federations/Dependencies system? If one Empire in the Federation has good leaders / Paragons will other members benefit?

2. Or if I subjugate an Empire with great leaders / Paragons can I make them work for me?

3. Can Paragons leave if my ethics change?

4. Can Paragons / Leaders be captured?

5. What will happen with Researchers / Governors that were available for hire from Keepers/Traders enclaves?

6. What will happen with nano-entity governor that you sometimes get from L-Cluster?
 
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Watch how I add venerable to my species, go psionic and save scum until I get the Chosen One trait so I have a single uber ruler through the entire game.
 
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Watch how I add venerable to my species, go psionic and save scum until I get the Chosen One trait so I have a single uber ruler through the entire game.
This could be seen as another buff for Psionics, which arguably produces the best leaders. I wonder if they'll give leadership bonuses to the other Ascension paths?
 
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I guarantee that everything about leaders will be horribly unbalanced on release, because the Stellaris dev team has no game designers who actually do the math in advance. So it will be up to us players to provide feedback on that. Hopefully there won't be too many bugs this time around, so that the post-launch cleanup can focus more on balance.

I mean this in a loving way, because I'm very happy to get megacorp content that isn't just a clone of normal civics, but:
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The name "Pharma State" and the description here just... they don't seem to be in the same style/voice as other megacorp civics. This reads closer to modded content.

Really I think it's just "Pharma State" being too on the nose, especially the word Pharma.
If we use other megacorp civics as a guide, one might expect "Monetized Medicines" or the like.

I just felt I had to say it; I accept my downvotes.

The writing and language consistency in Stellaris has been on a bit of a downward trend for a long time, probably because a lot of different people are working on it, and most of them don't have English as their first language. It's something that bothers me too. Like how some of the names of tradition trees that were added more recently are adjectives instead of nouns. It looks a bit amateurish to grammar nazis like myself, but to most people it won't matter.
 
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Currently yes, though typically in dev diaries there's a good amount of interaction in the hours following the release
My guess would be that it's because this DLC is Arctic's baby, and the Arctic folk simply don't read the forum, unlike the Stockholm dudes.
 
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This could be seen as another buff for Psionics, which arguably produces the best leaders. I wonder if they'll give leadership bonuses to the other Ascension paths?
you can also do the same and go synthetic ascension to get immortality

alternatively you can simply stack modifiers to get your leader to be effectively immortal
venerable lithoids for example start with a +130 years, plus the 40 the ruler gets anyways, for a total of +170 years lifespan as start value

then you can add +40 from being cyborgs or +50 from exotic metabolism (genetic ascension), +20 from Capacity Boosters, +15 total from two regular Society techs and +20 from Harmony
meaning you reach a total of +275 (or +265) years lifespan, which should allow your leader to live way into the late game
(btw Robust and Lithoid have the same bonus of 50 and are mutually exclusive)

also keep in mind that it's not even guaranteed that your leader will live long enough to become the chosen one
and even then they may not be selected as a suitable candidate for either of the two Chosen Ones you can get per game and even worse the generic Chosen One selection may fail and the ruler may get killed by it
 
Wondering if we'll have to wait for patch notes to see what the tweaks were to all the stuff that impacted leaders, that is being changed.

Kind of figure the leader exp and lifespan stuff will be untouched, anyone's guess on whether those will be worth it in certain builds or not. I think there was some leader upkeep and hiring costs stuff, so I could see that either staying the same or being changed. What I'm more interested in is the stuff the increases leader pools and level caps.
 
I mean this in a loving way, because I'm very happy to get megacorp content that isn't just a clone of normal civics, but:
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The name "Pharma State" and the description here just... they don't seem to be in the same style/voice as other megacorp civics. This reads closer to modded content.

Really I think it's just "Pharma State" being too on the nose, especially the word Pharma.
If we use other megacorp civics as a guide, one might expect "Monetized Medicines" or the like.

I just felt I had to say it; I accept my downvotes.
I'd say it's the lack of fancy buzzwords. It feels more matter-of-fact like a regular civic description, where a megacorp civic would usually have their business euphemisms and corporate lingo. The slogan feels too not-corporate as well, especially the use of "nation" since these slogans usually focus on the individual (e.g. "Advancing Medicine, Saving Lives." or "Healthcare that Cares." or some nonsense like that).
 
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One to Rule Them All - Galactic Paragon ruler origin
Under One Rule is a semi-story origin, with a lot of different outcomes based on the empire composition and in-game choices. If someone asked me what was the inspiration, I would say a certain person from the Invincible series (his name starts with O) - and some historical characters, like Charlemagne.

But the main theme is about an empire interconnected with an exceptional individual who, instead of unifying peacefully, unified the planet by… other means. Imagine the New World Order First Contact event, but at a later date, with a ruler who actually succeeded in staying in power. This exceptional leader is the Luminary of the empire, the one who brought the new age, and promised the glory of the stars to his or her people (or it). I guess you get it by now ;)

Just curious, will the God-Emperor um Luminary be able to fight the chaos gods um shroud entities?
 
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You should totally make this for Gestalts:
Instead of leaders heaving individual destiny traits, your ruler (core/hive mind) should have the destiny trait, which would be stronger, than regular empire leaders' destiny traits.
As Gestalt empire, you are basically a single system, an individual of collective, so it would make a fair trade off. Instead of individual leaders (parts of the system/organs), your whole empire can choose it's destiny.

Also, I think that Progenitor Hive, should maybe have normal Destiny traits, as it's unique in a way that it's centered around leaders with more independence, but ruler can maybe lack the Destiny trait, since it delegates it to leaders.
The absurd idea of Gestalts leaders being "an individual of collective" only works in Star Trek (the Borg Queen). A real gestalt is the hive mind itself, not some "individual of the collective". Unfortunately, the leader system in use in Stellaris don't permit such thing (a real hive mind).
 
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