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Well, we know Euro was truthful about Aedan, but others have done analysis on that and what a priest's apprentice entails. Wombat was incorrectly highly suspicious of Panzer which casts him under greater suspicion, so I shall have to look closer at his posts regarding that.
However, that shall have to be for another post as I think the most important thing is for Euro to give more details regarding the plot involving panzer and others. Whoever is part of that plot is significantly more suspicious to me, although the details of plot may clarify things greatly.
As a placeholder vote, I'll vote grimlock, as his continued silence is confusing me greatly.
vote grimlock
 
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liefwarrior said:
I think the suspicion I had about EURO has been mostly dissipated by the fact that he was right about aedan. Thus, I'm moving on to my second suspect Yakman. Let's take a look at their posts:

We start off with an attempt to switch onto HistoryDude. No explanation is offered as to why HistoryDude might be a more suitable candidate to be run up.


Then we have two days of tunneling on to Culann. The argument against Culann is not Yakman's own, they have contributed no analysis to it. Although I don't think this is in-of-itself a negative, people can be convinced by what others write, this is an argument without standing. It starts with johho saying the following:

After johho says this is when Yakman makes their vote, not long after it is debunked by Dedonus:

Yakman never switched off Culann, even after Dedonus's debunking. Yakman has only offered the most marginal analysis - noting that chilldude was likely a villager given their inactivity (an easy enough claim to make if you know who the wolves are). Yakman has failed to justify following johho's vote yesterday, Yakman has failed to justify their tunneling today. Hence:

vote Yakman
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ridiculous, openly wolf analysis

i'll vote for the wolf, as should everyone else

unvote @Culann
vote @liefwarrior
 
HistoryDude said:
Alright, who started the push on Panzer? It currently looks like Wombat was the first to suspect him. In the absence of further evidence, I'll go ahead and vote Wombat.
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Euro started the push by claiming that somebody had told him to have Panzer lynched with the below messages.
I'm honestly very curious about learning more about that thing, as it seems suspicious and could easily either be wolf Euro running around causing havoc, perhaps having infiltrted Panzer to learn about the gun, or a wolf playing Euro.
Or could be benign and just a confusion. But the outright order to have Euro kill Panzer seems weird.
Though, perhaps it's the case of the third person having revealed something to Panzer that a wolf woul want to kill said third person for. Who knows.

But in any case, then I'm curious, as this was essentially a semi outing, and Panzer had a gun.

As for Euro having scanned aedan, then his waffling initially about scan type as well as claiming priestly means he could be evil and aedan had been sorc scanned. Especially a priestly scan is pretty safe for baddies to claim, as there'll be relatively few people it wont' turn up villager for in a typical game, so for most people you'll be on the safe side to claim to have priestly scanned basically anybody. Well, it would reveal apprentice, but obviously you'd never reveal that in thread.

EUROO7 said:
I have instructions on what to do about Panzer if certain conditions are met.
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EUROO7 said:
That's really too vague to be helpful. I've been contacted by a personage intimating some plot involving panzer and them, and perhaps a third party. I am to reveal the message should any ill befall this personage, with the presumed intent of this leading the village to kill Panzer at that point.

This seems contrived, and I'd really be fine with just killing Panzer outright, but what do you think?
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Vote Count:


Yakman: 2
Liefwarrior (398)
the_hdk (399)

Randakar: 1
Culann (400)

Liefwarrior: 1
Yakman (Culann 389 -> 402)

Not Voted:
Lots of you
 
Wedding was fun, but I am pretty worn out, and still have a long drive to go home.
alxeu said:
Small note (I will have a more comprehensive post in the morning):

"Hunter" is the RP name for all villagers. Wherever you see hunter, that's a villager.
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I was too confused about this at first, having that hunter shot would have been really nice.

Wagonlitz said:
Euro started the push by claiming that somebody had told him to have Panzer lynched with the below messages.
I'm honestly very curious about learning more about that thing, as it seems suspicious and could easily either be wolf Euro running around causing havoc, perhaps having infiltrted Panzer to learn about the gun, or a wolf playing Euro.
Or could be benign and just a confusion. But the outright order to have Euro kill Panzer seems weird.
Though, perhaps it's the case of the third person having revealed something to Panzer that a wolf woul want to kill said third person for. Who knows.

But in any case, then I'm curious, as this was essentially a semi outing, and Panzer had a gun.

As for Euro having scanned aedan, then his waffling initially about scan type as well as claiming priestly means he could be evil and aedan had been sorc scanned. Especially a priestly scan is pretty safe for baddies to claim, as there'll be relatively few people it wont' turn up villager for in a typical game, so for most people you'll be on the safe side to claim to have priestly scanned basically anybody. Well, it would reveal apprentice, but obviously you'd never reveal that in thread.
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Yeah, it was EURO who pushed for the change to Panzer, and he seems as good a case as any for today. How complicit are those who followed him though, if as you say it was kind of an outing?

Vote EUROO7
 
Ironhide G1 said:
Yeah, it was EURO who pushed for the change to Panzer, and he seems as good a case as any for today. How complicit are those who followed him though, if as you say it was kind of an outing?
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Honestly not sure he's that good a case.
I can see just as many ways Goodie Euro acted the way he did as baddie Euro.
Hence why I primarily want further explanation, if that's possible without jeopardising anybody.
 
Wagonlitz said:
Honestly not sure he's that good a case.
I can see just as many ways Goodie Euro acted the way he did as baddie Euro.
Hence why I primarily want further explanation, if that's possible without jeopardising anybody.
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his explanation will be "i had a scan, i used a scan, he's a villager"

vote for the obvious wolf before you out yourself.
 
Yakman said:
his explanation will be "i had a scan, i used a scan, he's a villager"

vote for the obvious wolf before you out yourself.
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Scan?
He clearly talked about having been reached out to last night. Nothing about a scan, or are you talking about the aedan thing?
I'm honestly confused about what you mean.
 
Alright, decision time.
Today’s candidates are Yakman, lief, Randy, and Euro. (And me, but I’m not voting for myself, obviousl)
I don’t want to run up Euro again. He was a candidate yesterday, and given what we now know about aedan I’m inclined t think he’s either the priest or some other goodie with a priestly scan. Either way, he’s cleared enough in my eyes.
If memory serves, Yakman’s always kind of suspicious, even as a goodie, so I’ll keep an eye on him, but I’m passing off judgement for now.
Nothing Lief or Randy have said so far have really stood out to me one way or the other.
With this in mind, placeholder Vote Randakar
 
No time today (will be with family and no access to Internet), so will not be on at any point before deadline.

Vote the_hdk

Dislike lief's case on yakman which he jumped on
 
Team Wombat said:
No time today (will be with family and no access to Internet), so will not be on at any point before deadline.

Vote the_hdk

Dislike lief's case on yakman which he jumped on
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HE IS A WOLF
 
Colored Vote Count
Vote Count:

chilldude74: 5
CaptainGrimlock (EUROO7 #147 -> 174)
alxeu (CaptainGrimlock #158 -> #177)
Randakar (the_hdk #159 -> #184)
Caillean (the_hdk #175 -> captaingrimlock #175 -> #258)
yvanoff (#267)

Yvanoff: 5
Marty99 (Arkasas #125 -> #187)
Culann (Dedonus #144 -> #203)
Aedan (Euro #120 -> PanzerCorps #154 -> 243)
Wagonlitz (the_hdk #165 -> E_L #166 -> PanzerCorps #195 -> liefwarrior #214 -> #245)
Team Wombat (Dedonus #132 -> johho #205 -> chilldude74 #240 -> 265)

Dedonus: 3
liefwarrior (#135)
chilldude74 (#194)
the_hdk (Randakar #157 -> #196)

the_hdk: 3
Nepechri (#146)
MAWofDoom (#167)
PanzerCorps (#234)

EUROO7: 3
Ironhide (#128)
Arkasas (#171)
EUROO7 (Arkasas #121 -> Grimlock #149 -> PanzerCorp #179 -> chilldude74 #242 -> Yvanoff #259 -> #271)

Arkasas: 2
Historydude (#142)
Eteranly_Lost (#164)

PanzerCorps: 1
johho888 (#170)

Historydude: 1
Yakman (Caillean #176 -> chilldude74 #180 -> Ironhide #190 -> #198)

liefwarrior: 1
Dedonus (Randakar #156 -> yvanoff #181 -> #239)

Not Voted: 1
crn7000

Unofficial Vote Count:

PanzerCorp: 6
Team Wombat [Randakar 322 -> 366]
Eternaly_Lost [wombat 348 ->368]
Arkasas [CaptainGrimlock 337 -> 369]
Culann [E_L 285 -> wombat 346 ->373]
Dedonus [CaptainGrimlock 310 -> 375]
MAWofDoom [Euro 307 -> CaptainGrimlock 354 -> 376]

EUROO7: 4
CaptainGrimlock [290]
liefwarrior [293]
HistoryDude [294]
Caillean [335]

Team Wombat: 3
Aedan [314]
Randakar [Wagonlitz 302 -> 333]
nepechri [359]

CaptainGrimlock: 2
PanzerCorps [MAWofDoom 329 ->343]
Euro [Wombat 313 -> 360]

Culann: 2
Yakman [284]
Wagonlitz [305]

MAWofDoom: 1
Alxeu [308]

Johho: 1
Marty99 [300]

crn7000: 1
Ironhide G1 [304]

Not Voted: 3 :mad:
johho888 [Culann 282 > no vote 297]
crn7000
the_hdk
 
Vote Count:


Yakman: 2
Liefwarrior (398)
the_hdk (399)

Randakar: 1
Culann (400)

Liefwarrior: 1
Yakman (Culann 389 -> 402)

the_hdk: 1
Team Wombat (410)

EUROO7: 1
Ironhide G1 (405)

Wagonlitz: 1
johho888 (384)

Not Voted:
Arkasas
Nepechri
Euro
Marty
Randakar
Dedonus
Alxeu
Grimlock
Caillean
Historydude
MAWofdoom
MarshmallowMarshall
 
What's with all these placeholder votes? If you are going to vote, vote with conviction!

After looking over the vote history, I noticed that Caillean hasn't received much pressure yet. Yakman's initial vote on Day 1 has been the only vote to go her way. She jumped onto the Chilldude bandwagon on Day 1 and remained on EURO on Day 2 during the switch to Panzer (however, I understand the deadline isn't ideal for our European players and she might have just not been able to be online at that time).

Also, I'm not going to hold the following post against her, but it would be hilarious if it was a slip of the tongue (emboldened words are my emphasis).

Caillean said:
@randakar you don't have to protect me, I'm your girlfriend, not your packmate, so no protection needed.

Although i must admit, most of you know much more about each other than I know about you, so a day 1 that's out of character suspicion is not what you can expect from me. Later in the game I hope I can analyse a lot more and say much more useful stuff. So some time would be nice.

And on my vote, the tie-snipe really didn't make sense to me, they were both to easy targets to be a pack member so the tie was really only killing an extra villager and try to get away with it. I know it's not original and he already has lots of votes, but for me Euro feels like an obvious baddie. And I prefer to lynch the one I suspect most, even if it feels like a little bandwagon.

Vote Euro
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vote Caillean
 
Deadline is in 5 hours and 17 minutes.
 
Village gotta wake up
 
I don't like Wombat voting hdk without expressed reason and then saying he dislikes lief's case on Yakman, unrelated to his vote.

Vote Team Wombat
 
Vote Count:


Yakman: 2
Liefwarrior (398)
the_hdk (399)

Randakar: 2
Culann (400)
marty99 (418)

Liefwarrior: 1
Yakman (Culann 389 -> 402)

the_hdk: 1
Team Wombat (410)

EUROO7: 1
Ironhide G1 (405)

Wagonlitz: 1
johho888 (384)

Caillean: 1
Dedonus (414)

Team Wombat: 1
Alxeu (419)

Captain Grimlock: 1
MAWofDoom (401)

Not Voted:
Arkasas
Nepechri
Euro
Randakar
Grimlock
Caillean
Historydude
MarshmallowMarshall
Eternaly_Lost
 
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