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Stellaris Dev Diary #308 - Rock On! (Also an Announcement Regarding Species Pack Pricing)

Welcome back!

In this week’s dev diary, we’re going to explore some improvements the Custodian Team is making to the Lithoids Species Pack in the upcoming Stellaris 3.9 ‘Caelum’ Update, and then a few other new features.

Before that, I have an announcement to make regarding Species Pack Pricing.

Announcement Regarding Species Pack Pricing​

Stellaris Species Packs started as purely cosmetic add-ons, consisting of portraits, ship sets, city sets, and advisor voices. They’ve come a long way since them, now including a much greater variety of content. While the exact spread of features varies by pack, they now all include things such as origins, civics, traits, events, and new mechanics.

As Game Director, I’m especially pleased with how the Custodian Team has improved the quality of the older packs. They’ve added new playstyles and enabled many more sci-fi tropes to be explored during your games.

Species Pack Changes Since Release


With the changes coming in 3.9 ‘Caelum’, we believe that the older Species Packs will be on par with the newer ones, and we’re planning an increase in the base price of the Plantoids, Humanoids, Lithoids, and Necroids Species Packs from $7.99 to match the $9.99 base price of the more recent Aquatics and Toxoids Species Packs.

Per the promise made by Fredrik Wester several years ago, we are announcing this change ahead of time so anyone that wishes to purchase them at the current base prices will have an opportunity to do so. They will be available with the current base price for at least 30 days, and will be changing alongside the release of 3.9 ‘Caelum’.

Stellaris will be taking part in the Steam Strategy Fest. This will give you a chance to get the affected Species Packs at a discounted price before the price change goes into effect.

I’ll now detail the improvements made to the Lithoids Species Pack. Improvements to the other Species Packs will be a major focus of dev diaries over the next few weeks.

Tired of reading? Watch the video dev diary on YouTube!

Things That Rock​

My very first Stellaris Dev Diary was #157 - Things That Rock.

The Lithoids Species Pack was the first one that wasn’t exclusively an art pack. The Lithoid trait added interesting game mechanics to the phenotype, we had a few Lithoid specific traits, some event changes, and the Terravore variant of the Devouring Swarm.

The purely cosmetic Species Packs were updated in subsequent releases, but while it did get an Origin in Federations and more traits in 3.5 ‘Fornax’, Lithoids hadn’t gotten quite as much of an update from the Custodian Team as the packs. Of quartz I thought that we should dig up some improvements.

I’ll turn things over to Iggy now to talk about some of the changes.



Greetings all, Iggy here!

Since the release of Galactic Paragons, the Custodian Team has been working on improving the value and quality of older DLC’s. Today I will be talking about what we have done for the Lithoid Species Pack.

Buffing the Old​


As previously shown in DD#305 we returned to Calamitous Birth to give it some love. This includes removing the habitability loss from Lithoid Craters for Lithoid pops as well as increasing the effectiveness of lithoid exclusive traits such as Gaseous Byproducts on the Massive Crater world.

Calamitous Birth Tooltip
Massive Crater Tooltip
Lithoid Crater Tooltip

We also talked about how terravores have gotten a glow up. No longer will you need to sit and click a decision every 6 months as you consume your world! Now it’s all handled in a handy compact situation. The output should still be exactly the same as before thanks to clever script math so don’t worry about this being a nerf to acquired pops or resources.

Consume World Tooltip

Crunch crunch!

In With the New!​


Not satisfied with only buffing these two old pieces of content we also felt like the species pack could do with a bit of a polish to stack up to current species packs.

First up: Void Hive
Void Hive Civic Icon

I love this icon so much

As you can see it’s a Hive Civic with quite a unique effect and if the habitat changes discussed in DD#306 go through it would be a powerful addition to your Void Dweller Hiveminds.

Void Hive civic, now with more clarifications!

Iggy making potentially game breaking hive content? SHOCKER!

This civic plays around with the flavor of a Hive Mind that is capable of surviving out in space and the dangers of vacuum. While you still can build gathering stations it goes against your nature to instruct specific drones to do so and will cost you some Unity. They also excel at creating structures in space, whether they be habitats, dyson spheres, or hyper relays, so get out into the dark void already!

The other new civic added to the Lithoid Species Pack is Selective Kinship.

This civic is not for the xenophiles so please, avert your ocular organs.

Selective Kinship Civic Tooltip

Meat. They’re made out of meat!

This civic also comes with the lithoid species pack and lets you create an empire consisting only of your primary phenotype such as Lithoids, Aquatic, Mammalian, etc. Though don’t think it will be smooth sailing because you won’t like anyone not conforming to your standards and they will really not like your bigoted thinking. However if you really want to have some friends the Hegemon and Common Ground origin will ensure that your member nations are your phenotype if you choose to start with this civic.

Shine Bright!​


Thanks, Iggy.

We’ve been having a lot of questionnaires and feedback sessions with players, and one of the things that is often requested is some more relatable characters in the various phenotypes. While we’ll of course continue creating horrific alien monstrosities, the art team took this opportunity to add a few new portraits to Lithoids, Plantoids, and Humanoids.

Concept Art for new Lithoid Humanoids

For Lithoids, the Federated Theian Preserves will be a new prescripted empire that begins on the Desert World of Theia, in the Titawin system.

Billions of years ago, two planets formed from the primordial material in orbit of Sol - ancient Earth, and Theia.

Rudimentary life evolved on both worlds, biological in the case of Earth, and lithoid on Theia. For eons, these sister planets maintained a peaceful revolution around their star. Then came the cataclysm.

The planets collided, and in the moment of impact, microbial life was exchanged. Earth survived, and Luna was formed. What remained of Theia was jettisoned from the system.

On this rocky colony ship, life from ancient Theia traversed the void before it was caught in the gravity well of the star Titawin. Crashing into one of the system's worlds, a new species was introduced to the local biosphere. A few short millenia later, the Theian's took to the stars, seeking to understand the universe as well as their own heritage.


The Federated Theian Preservers

Work is still being done on the lava shader.

May they find their way home!

On to some other 3.9 changes…

Ascension Path Agendas​

Some players have commented that they often find themselves saving an Ascension Perk slot for an indeterminate amount of time, waiting for the required research for their desired Ascension Path to appear.

The Ascension Perks that unlock the four Ascension Paths have had their requirements changed so that they now be taken as your third AP at the earliest instead of as your second AP. We have removed the Technology requirements and moved those to progressing down the Tradition Tree associated with that Ascension Path.

Engineered Evolution Tooltip

Psionics Tradition Tooltip

Each Ascension Path now has an Agenda that grants 25% progress in technologies associated with that Ascension Path, which should ensure that you are no longer reliant on random chance to acquire these technologies. These Agendas have a reduced cost and cooldown compared to normal Agendas, though some have modifiers based on Empire Ethics compatibility with the Ascension Path.

Mind over Matter Agenda, granting Psionic Theory progress

The random number generator will not keep us out of the Shroud!

Engineered Evolution Agenda Tooltip, Granting Genome Mapping

These agendas advance to the next relevant technology if you finish some research while the agenda is ongoing.

rm -rf /nodes/regulatory​

One of the complaints we’ve had with Gestalt Councils is that Nodes cannot be replaced unlike the Councilors for regular empires. This means that you are no longer locked forever to traits that might be useful for your Nodes in the early-game but fall off in the mid- to late-game.

To solve this, we’ve added three new Society technologies to Machine Intelligences (and Hive Minds) which unlock a set of new Council Agendas that replace the existing Nodes, after a bit of reformatting (or vivisection).

Reformatting Technologies

TODO: Icons

Reformatting Agendas


The first technology will unlock the Agendas themselves, while the following technologies will unlock modifiers that improve both the Agendas and your Council.

The newly created Nodes will initially start at level 1, though this can be improved to a maximum starting level equal to the level of the reformatted/culled Node depending on Technologies, Traditions and Civics.

Next Week​

Next week we’ll be going over improvements to the Plantoids Species Pack and some more other changes coming in 3.9 ‘Caelum’. Humanoids and Necroids will be the following week.

A Heart Full of Birds

These are not plantoids. But you’ll get to meet them in the plantoids dev diary.
Updated Teaser Image

Edit: Updated Void Hive civic tooltip.
 
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If I was doing a Necrophage with humanoid prepatents, the humanoid Lithoid portrait might be worth using -- it's like "petrified humans" instead of a species which evolved like that.

But as a random species portrait, it's not going to add to my games.
 
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With the changes coming in 3.9 ‘Caelum’, we believe that the older Species Packs will be on par with the newer ones, and we’re planning an increase in the base price of the Plantoids, Humanoids, Lithoids, and Necroids Species Packs from $7.99 to match the $9.99 base price of the more recent Aquatics and Toxoids Species Packs.
Someone call the CK3 team, that's how you do price increases
 
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Given that we're polishing old Origins, any chance that Syncretic Evolution could get a look-see, with Necrophage effectively having superseded them, doing it better?
 
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If I was doing a Necrophage with humanoid prepatents, the humanoid Lithoid portrait might be worth using -- it's like "petrified humans" instead of a species which evolved like that.

But as a random species portrait, it's not going to add to my games.
How about the opposite, we grow babies from stone and when they are mature enough, the stone molts away and you have beautiful long-living people :)
 
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How about the opposite, we grow babies from stone and when they are mature enough, the stone molts away and you have beautiful long-living people :)

Sounds interesting, maybe a new mechanic for that?

Doesn't sound like a Necrophage which is supposed to be more like something "undead" rather than being more-alive.
 
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Sounds interesting, maybe a new mechanic for that?

Doesn't sound like a Necrophage which is supposed to be more like something "undead" rather than being more-alive.
Necrophages are totally misleading. They are parasites. One can imagine they are wearing "essentialy" braindead biomass or use it to undergo a transformation. Exactly as some kind of insect.
 
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Sounds interesting, maybe a new mechanic for that?

Doesn't sound like a Necrophage which is supposed to be more like something "undead" rather than being more-alive.

Yeah but they made the Ascension Chamber kind of enigmatic (even through diplomacy dialogues) so that you could roleplay any transformation you felt like, that is how I remember the Devs saying as their intention in one of their dev diaries.
 
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A small, itty bitty ask:
Can Cordyceps Drones give a guaranteed spawnpoint of Amoebas in Civ's homeworld?

Consequently, speaking about space fauna, can Tiyanki Treaty apply to all Galactic Senate civs, like Amoeba Treaty does?
 
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Given that we're polishing old Origins, any chance that Syncretic Evolution could get a look-see, with Necrophage effectively having superseded them, doing it better?

Oh yeah, I would really like to see a Syncretic Evolution Hive Mind, with both your primary and servile species being Hive-Minded.
Especially since with First Contact Necrophage HMs can acquire a second Hive-Minded species almost immediately.
 
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Sounds interesting, maybe a new mechanic for that?

Doesn't sound like a Necrophage which is supposed to be more like something "undead" rather than being more-alive.
Rock necrophages were meta for a while, though. The habitability made them strong, and you didn't care about the growth speed penalties because your necrophages wouldn't grow anyway. And your leaders lived practically forever even if you turned up tech costs. The best of both worlds.

Which is also why the inverse (rock prepatent and fleshy necrophage) is the worst of both worlds.

But the necrophage concept covers everything from fungoid parasites/brain slugs/Alien chestbursters/same species metamorphosis/petrification into a lithoid to vampires/mummies/(cosmetic) cyberification.
 
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How do you know?

Asking because the species design screen already uses "phenotype" to mean something else.
I read the Dev Diary:
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Meat. They’re made out of meat!

This civic also comes with the lithoid species pack and lets you create an empire consisting only of your primary phenotype such as Lithoids, Aquatic, Mammalian, etc.
 
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Love these changes, but I do hope that a leader cap rework is still planned.
 
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Question that occurs for Kinship. Will this civic affect/negate the existing penalties that come with, say, Xenophobe? Or is the 100 opinion supposed to just brute force the mutual -10/-20s that both a player empire has for a same-phenotype empire and the 'xenophobic bigot' malus in reverse?
 
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Wait, that room background is only available to primitives, did you cheat it?View attachment 1011919
Or is it finally being made available on custom empire creation due to popular demand?
Will we finally at long last gain vanilla access to the Greenpunk room and cityscape?

We already have such case now.

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However if you try to edit the room, you will never be able to get it again.

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We’ve been having a lot of questionnaires and feedback sessions with players, and one of the things that is often requested is some more relatable characters in the various phenotypes. While we’ll of course continue creating horrific alien monstrosities, the art team took this opportunity to add a few new portraits to Lithoids, Plantoids, and Humanoids.
For my part, fwiw, I'm not appreciative of portraits that are 'weird' just for the sake of being weird. Vertebrates with extra eyes for no reason, squiddy and buggy faces attempting to dress like humans, and unbalanced, spindly, feeble-looking limbs. They either make no sense to exist, or slip into the 'uncanny valley' for us the players' sake just to create that feeling of 'weird'. Other aspects suggest lack of creativity such as the same outfit across phenotypes. The original portraits are full of this kind of nonsense and they could really use an expansion. The species packs have made big improvements in this regard, including new body shapes that can't fit in one-size-fits-all robes, intimidating species with powerful limbs and stances, colorful and showy species, and even comical ones. I think Aquatics has the best portraits of all.

For the record, I am a fan of upright, 2-arm-2-leg body plans, but I specifically avoid playing humans. I want to play as something I'm not, but I want to play as something believable and capable of dignity and strength. I know achieving that is challenging, but I have seen from recent work that you guys are up for it.
 
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...How to not sound like a downer...

...The new Lithoid species... looks a little racist. Just a little. That probably reflects badly on me more than anything else, so sorry about that.

Being able to brute-force your way into the same Ascension path in every single game... will make every run the same, won't it? Do people really hate randomness in a procedurally-generated game like Stellaris?

Group Racism... a.k.a. "widening the in-group a bit more and stigmatizing the out-group even more in-turn"... I mean, I guess you would make that a Civic, but why not just make that a setting/policy for minor Xenophobes or something? You have the opposite of it in Imperator: Rome.
 
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